domain Gangsters.com - Almost 11 years old - What do you think?

[Domain Jedi]

Gangsters.com

Ideal for..

A massively multiplayer (Gangsters themed) online role-playing game (MMORPG).

A music label/brand.

An ecommerce site for Mafia/Gangster related DVDs, books, products etc.

What do you think?

Thanks for looking. :D

DJ

 

[pergamon]

10-15k

Nice name but needs a whole business thing behind it.

 

[ebert22]

Yeah, I'd say 25K

 

[Domain Jedi]

No additional appraisals are needed. I just wanted to express my gratitude to you guys for your feedback. I really appreciate it. Thank You!

Sincerely,

DJ

 

[snoop]

So, the way you look at all the other appraisals is more like a mathematician with a formula, expecting a 100% correct result and a guarantied xxx,xxx sale within the next year, in order to accept our appraisals.

And this simply doesn't work with DNs.

If someone says xxx,xxx , it means that this COULD be a potential Sale in the future, in the RIGHT time to the RIGHT Buyer after the RIGHT Marketing. I mean if absolutely everything comes together, then xxx,xxx could be possible.
And maybe we are talking about only a handful of potential buyers who MAYBE would buy such a name with such price.

The $500,000+ appraisal is just a number plucked from nowhere. It isn't like being out by 50%, it is out by about 50-100 fold. It is like appraising a house for $5million dollars when a similar house next door went for $100,000. I would just assume the appraiser knows nothing about the asset they are valuing.

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I couldn't agree with you more.

Here is an interesting article I read about crime genre games on the web:

How the Mafia conquered social networks | The Social - CNET News

Sounds like there is some fat cash to be had in this online gaming niche. It would be totally awesome to build out a MMORPG on Gangsters.com much like WOW has with WorldofWarcraft.com.

What do you guys think?

Development just for the sake of it is never a good idea in my view. Tha name suits the usage but it is is just one small part of the equation. If you were a programmer and just wanted to build an online game (really had a passion for it), it would be a different thing.

 

[Domain Jedi]

Development just for the sake of it is never a good idea in my view. Tha name suits the usage but it is is just one small part of the equation. If you were a programmer and just wanted to build an online game (really had a passion for it), it would be a different thing.

A joint venture with a video game company is definitely the way to go in my opinion. Zynga (Mafia Wars) is on my short list as well as 4 other companies that specialize in this gaming genre. There are more, I just plan to go after the biggies for now.

Wish me luck fellow domainers!

 

[El Bandolero]

Just like to add that Grand theft auto 4 has alot of online players from the ps3. Saints Row and so many others as well. You could try to contact Rockstar as well and see if they would invest.

 

[mjbenterprises]

I think this name is one of those cases where if this domain is developed, it could be worth a HUGE amount of money... But if it is simply parked, it won't generate that much revenue, esp with parking profits way down...

 

[snoop]

Sold today for 16.1k

 

[RTM]

Easy $xxx,xxx name.

Do *not* sell to any member here, unless you are desperate for a cheapo $20K sale.

Do a bit of market analysis (Forrester, AMG, Gartner, Google Adwords, etc.) and negotiate with end user for a $xxx,xxx sale...

When resellers (we generally offer 20-30% of retail value, max) will give you an easier fix... this one deserves a bit of effort approaching the right clientele (not just rappers or music industry, but film/documentary/mainstream media production houses) and pushing big... also gaming companies.

The above posts in this thread offer much insight into the potential market use.

Just don't sell to a reseller, unless you need emergency cash.

Rob

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Sold today for 16.1k

Wow... just read this and hadn't realized Gangsters.com was on eBay.

Bargain. A real recession bargain.

I predict (if it's resold on the market) an easy triple within 24 months, depending who the buyer is.

Congrats to all on the transaction.

 

[Domain Jedi]

With the domainosphere at large in the know in regard to the auction, I anticipated upwards of 22k plus.

That said, the buyer (from Sweden) seems legit and has requested that the transaction be taken through Escrow.com. Apparently his wire transfer payment has already been authorized and will be sent shortly.

My reason for selling is simple. I wanted to liquidate some additional funds for another project of mine.

Thanks you for all of the support guys! :tu:

 

[lll]

congrats on the sale man!

 

[snoop]

Bargain. A real recession bargain.

I predict (if it's resold on the market) an easy triple within 24 months, depending who the buyer is.

Congrats to all on the transaction.

I'm sure we'll be reading lots of this nonsense in coming days from the people who predicted 6 figures for it. The fact is it sold for $16k in an open and well publicised auction, that is as close to "market value" conditions as we are ever going to see.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

The funniest thing is that $6.25 max bid someone put down.

eBay.com Item Bid History

 

[Archangel]

Thinking this is under $10,000 doesn't make you look any brighter. The term is exceedingly brandable. Add its age and you're looking at roughly $18,000-22,000. $50k is possible but I couldn't see it hitting that far up.

Would say 5-10k, it is nice sounding name though has little commercial focus or enduser potential, it is a domainers domain. The people saying 25-50k are on another planet, I challenge them to even offer one half of what they say it is worth.

 

[MicroGuy]

Hope the seller gets paid, the winner has a big fat "zero" under his history. This is his/her first Ebay purchase, a $16,000 domain name! Hmmm?

 

[Archangel]

I ignore EVERY appraisal Snoop gives. He doesn't understand the game half as well as he thinks he does. It's all hot air coming from him.

Snoop,

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would be willing to bet you $1,ooo USD that I will double your 10k appraisal within the next 12 months (at least $20,000 USD) selling this domain.

I plan to be around for the next 12 months so the timeline shouldn't be an issue for you.

Seeing how you are asking our fellow domainers to put some money where their mouth is, care to put some money down on your expert appraisal?

P.S. If I have the website developed out into a full blown website (not a mini-site), the bet is off.

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I just now read the full thread. I was pretty close with my estimate (I wasn't aware that it had sold)

Sold today for 16.1k

 

[snoop]

Thinking this is under $10,000 doesn't make you look any brighter. The term is exceedingly brandable. Add its age and you're looking at roughly $18,000-22,000. $50k is possible but I couldn't see it hitting that far up.

The name just sold for $16,100, I was undervaluing it by $6,100 which is far better than most of the appraisals. The people who said 25k were out 9k and those who said 50k were out 34k. Then we have the people who thought it was worth 6 figures. I think it is clear many were overvaluing this name.

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Hope the seller gets paid, the winner has a big fat "zero" under his history. This is his/her first Ebay purchase, a $16,000 domain name! Hmmm?

I think it is not that uncommon for big spending domain buyers to have no or little profile on ebay. He probably saw the ad on one of the news sites rather than looking through ebay.

 

[-REECE-]

I have to agree with Snoop. I wouldn't know what to do with this domain which could make that kind of money back.

The only real use that immediately comes to mind would be some kind of "tribute to gangsters". How that will make back the 16k price is beyond me -- no doubt a lot of work will need to be done. Assuming this type of development, I can't see it being profitable anytime soon even if it gets a lot of traffic. This is not the kind of website most advertisers would want to be associated with.

Congrats on the sale -- not a bad sale at all in my opinion

 

[Domain Jedi]

Congrats on the sale -- not a bad sale at all in my opinion

I appreciate it.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

I have to agree with Snoop. I wouldn't know what to do with this domain which could make that kind of money back.

Put me in the naysayer corner also.

Unless there is an existing project to plug into it, this is a domainer's domain at this price level. The only angle is a video game, movie or a forum for street gang members. A gangster history site isn't even worth mentioning because you don't need a $xx,xxx domain for that. My guess is that it will still be owned by a domainer 10 years from now.