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Domain name aside,

Is there a way of putting a rough price on the number of unique hits a site receives per day?

I'm talking about genuine traffic- not people sent there via bulk e-mail scams etc.

What would the following roughly be worth

50 uniques / day

150 uniques / day

500 uniques / day


You get the idea!

Any web sites / pointers that discuss this kind of thing or have a "ready reckoner" type estimate tool???

Many thanks,
Ian N
 
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In speaking with account reps at both Sedo and Moniker, it seems that Uniques and Worth are part of an equasion that also involves click through.

At one point, I had several hundred uniques a day but very little click through. something like .0x %. So in that case, 500 Us a day is pretty much worthless to "an investor". I'll get back to why I put that in quotes in a second....

Consequently, today I am getting a click through of around 3% - 5% on my ads and 33% of my search customers. My Us are closer to 900 on a good day and around 300-400 on the average. Us haven't changed much but the value has certainly changed.

So back to the Quotes...

I've learned another very interesting little tidbit through this whole process. The words "buyer" and "end user" have been consistently been used, sometimes interchangedly, on this forum.

Here's a VERY IMPORTANT point in seeking value here in this forum or at reseller sites like Sedo, Moniker, etc.

These people are PARKING REVENUE orientated. They are "Investors". The worth of a site is directly related to the PPC revenue it makes or has the potential to make. Visitors are an important number, Uniques are a big part of that but REPEAT users are important too. The domains are more about LLLL than a "word" or a domain with meaning. So if you are currently doing good numbers that are generating revenues and high uniques, then the value will be based on some number (.10 cents to a buck) per visitor for X number of years. That's how an Investor might look at your value.

As opposed to... an "End User"

End Users are why you see the Big Dollar sales on dnJournal all the time. These guys are looking at the domain as a "Brand" and if your domain furthers their brand or business model and has lots of traffic, they you are a given sales tool. One that they would spend hundres of thousands of dollars in developing OR just give you the $100K and be done with it.

Sure, sometimes there is a blur between the two and sometimes Investors buy big dollar domains because they HOPE to sell it to a brand later down the road.

But... in general... the people that will be commenting on your domain and its worth are those that are jusding its current or perceived traffic value for PPC/affiliate revenues.

Forgive my rambling. I'm new here too. But I've found so far that what WE think we are being told about value and worth... is all a matter of perspective. Consider WHO is valuating your site when considering their opinion.

I've been offered $100 for my site. I've been offered $500 for it. I've been offered $2500 for it. I've also been TOLD to sell for $25K, $50K... up to a $Million. I've been appraised at $75K and at $400K. I've also been told that the site isn;t worth selling. SAME SITE. Go figure.

We tend to hang on to the high bids and forget about the low bids... hey, we're human. But in the end, it only takes ONE person that loves your domain and gives you a price that YOU are happy with.

Good luck!

Scott
 
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you also need to give the click through rate and the bid price for the keywords.

IDN101 said:
Domain name aside,

Is there a way of putting a rough price on the number of unique hits a site receives per day?

I'm talking about genuine traffic- not people sent there via bulk e-mail scams etc.

What would the following roughly be worth

50 uniques / day

150 uniques / day

500 uniques / day


You get the idea!

Any web sites / pointers that discuss this kind of thing or have a "ready reckoner" type estimate tool???

Many thanks,
Ian N
 
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It really depends on how targeted the traffic is. CTR often is a reflection of how targeted the traffic is. The more targeted the traffic, the more likely people will click on the links.
 
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GoPC said:
I've been offered $100 for my site. I've been offered $500 for it. I've been offered $2500 for it. I've also been TOLD to sell for $25K, $50K... up to a $Million. I've been appraised at $75K and at $400K. I've also been told that the site isn;t worth selling. SAME SITE. Go figure.
Hello Scott.
Would you mind showing off the site you're talking about?
 
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In short - There is no way to put a price on uniques , Especially without at least a few required factors ....

Language and Locale of incoming traffic (English and US English being the most sought after by most advertisers)

Keyword Targeting - What was the user searching for to begin with ? Obviously if the user was searching for "Cats named poochie" on google - the traffic is of little use to someone advertising Houses in Rome .... The anchor text / basic niche of the site is very important.


As fars as tools to use ... kind of hard to say other than checking WordTracker and / or Overture searches - I suggest the suggestion tool at DigitalPoint http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/suggestion/ which shows both of these side by side , But be careful as there are a lot of errors on the overture tool (Plurals and order of keywords are a huge problem on it) and I trust Wordtracker more overall.

Also see : http://uv.bidtool.overture.com/d/search/tools/bidtool/ to see what potential PPC advertisers are paying for certain keywords and phrases (Usually - you will need to review the top 5 or 10 bids to get an idea because PPC bids tend to change a lot).

Its not an exact science by any means - But you can sometimes work out a system over time for yourself to better get an idea ;)
 
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Many thanks to everyone for taking the time to provide such comprehensive replies.


I'll check out the links you offered.

Regards,
Ian
 
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Midano said:
Hello Scott.
Would you mind showing off the site you're talking about?

How sould I do that? IM?

Scott
 
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GoPC said:
How sould I do that? IM?

Scott
PM would be fine if you want to keep this private.
I apologize if I'm being snoopy. Just a sheer curiosity.
 
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Oh... I get it.. sorry LOL!!!

I thought you were saying show me "off site" not "showing off the site". DUH!!!

The site is www.gopc.com

Scott
 
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Alright. I'm glad we understand each other.
Browsing your site right now.
 
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Browsing yours as well. Pretty cool stuff :)

Scott
 
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I had a site which had 150 uniques/day and 10% CTR. Sold for almost $2K.

It depends on the site and the buyer obviously.
 
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Wow... so for 500 uniques a day and a 25% CTR with Adsense and a 69.4% CTU with GoldKey. So... step right up. Who wants it :)

LOL!

Scott
 
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