debate Environmental Thread does anyone care that Amazon Rain Forest is burning down to the ground

[oldtimer]

This is a total catastrophe and failure for the World and humanity at large. There are some things that surpass national boundaries and borders like Human Rights and certain Environmental issues that affect the whole Globe which surely should be of concern to all of us. Whether it’s the Oceans and Rivers that have been polluted or whether it’s our air and soil that have been poisoned, it all has something to do with human activity like the Global Warming and the Melting of the Ice Caps and Glaciers which is going to put many coastal Cities and Communities under water soon. IMO

Everyone’s opinions are welcomed, but keep your comments constructive, professional, and on topic. Personal attacks and belittling of others are not tolerated.

 

[oldtimer]

Anyone heard of Boyan Slat?

Greta is creating awareness and Boyan is coming up with solutions, both are serving Humanity and the Environment in their own way, on the other hand those who keep mocking others are just doing a disservice to the whole cause of saving the Planet. IMO

 

[JB Lions]

Greta is creating awareness and Boyan is coming up with solutions, both are serving Humanity and the Environment in their own way, on the other hand those who keep mocking others are just doing a disservice to the whole cause of saving the Planet. IMO

Exactly, they're not in competition with each other, they probably each respect the other person. Gilsan grabbed that off some anti-liberal site that literally sells make liberals cry merchandise. She's been the target of many hoaxes and hate from those on the right/fossil fuel company backed nutters - https://www.poynter.org/fact-checki...-after-her-family-image-and-activism-but-why/

 

[oldtimer]

Exactly, they're not in competition with each other, they probably each respect the other person.

Unfortunately sometimes people use underhanded tactics to destroy the voice of truth and logic by attacking the messenger since they know that they can't win the debate by allowing the message to wake people up to all the deception and lies that some of their ideologies and beliefs have propagated in support of their misguided policies that are now affecting this whole Planet and all its inhabitants. By using their Machine of propaganda and intimidation they can bring anyone down who might stand in their way of protecting their misguided agendas and pursuing their self serving interests. But I am sure that the truth backed with science will ultimately win over all their insanity and their denials. IMO

 

[Cal2]

Greta is creating awareness and Boyan is coming up with solutions, both are serving Humanity and the Environment in their own way, on the other hand those who keep mocking others are just doing a disservice to the whole cause of saving the Planet. IMO

I'd add that Greta is a catalyst, stimulating Initiative in other people, which over time could add up to a Lot of planet saving actions. To try and reduce her value for saving the planet because she's not building garbage cleaning systems...

 

[JB Lions]

And here it goes:

Residents evacuated after fire breaks out in Sylmar, Los Angeles
A bush fire broke out on Thursday night in Sylmar, northern Los Angeles, California. The LA Fire Department has said that this is a "Major Emergency".

Lots of video/pics in this link:
https://twitter.com/i/events/1182535737746477056

Some live feeds

Some recorded video

 

[GILSAN]

Swiss Citizens Take to the Streets to Protest 5G Implementation as New Illnesses Start at Same Time
If you want to get an idea of what will happen in the U.S. when the telecom companies start rolling out 5G networks with new towers in your local neighborhood, take a look at what is happening in Switzerland today, where 90% of the population is now exposed to the new 5G networks.

People are getting sick, and they are marching in the streets to show their opposition to the new networks.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2019/s...O7yksDucKupPcGAMgGPfdH10cwl89bSYP2bV5sffQ8-N8

 

[oldtimer]

And here it goes:

Residents evacuated after fire breaks out in Sylmar, Los Angeles
A bush fire broke out on Thursday night in Sylmar, northern Los Angeles, California. The LA Fire Department has said that this is a "Major Emergency".

Is there anything that they can do to prevent these fires from growing so fast and destroying such large areas.

Why not get some volunteers to clean up all the underbrush and twigs that fuel these fires, maybe they can even thin out the trees so that they won't be so close together, perhaps they can make some fire barriers so even if a fire is started it won't spread too far, now I understand that they are probably doing a lot of this already, but they need to expand it further and do it at much larger scale.

And I believe that the power company should do more in upgrading their system by putting in stronger power lines that don't break so easily with a little wind, I mean there are no hurricanes in California so how old and weak are these power lines that they break every time there is a gust of wind.

I also still believe that if the power company is going to shut off the power for several days then they should build some power stations (solar or generator) in several strategic locations in the affected areas so that people can charge up their electronic devices (and their electric cars).

IMO

 

[oldtimer]

Swiss Citizens Take to the Streets to Protest 5G Implementation as New Illnesses Start at Same Time
If you want to get an idea of what will happen in the U.S. when the telecom companies start rolling out 5G networks with new towers in your local neighborhood, take a look at what is happening in Switzerland today, where 90% of the population is now exposed to the new 5G networks.

People are getting sick, and they are marching in the streets to show their opposition to the new networks.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2019/s...O7yksDucKupPcGAMgGPfdH10cwl89bSYP2bV5sffQ8-N8

More research needs to be done about 5g,

For now they should limit its use only to B2B and Industrial applications before they expand it to everyday applications such as smartphones or cars. The truth of the matter is that any kind of manmade wave is going to have some effect on all living creatures since they have not evolved to get used to them over time like the way that they have gotten used to natural waves that are all around us. So perhaps 5g has to be introduced gradually and in different stages to give our bodies a chance to get used to it.

IMO

 

[Compassion]

Even if we gave those scientists the benefit of the doubt and assumed that there was a 20% chance that Global Warming was a hoax, that would still leave an 80% chance that Global Warming is real.

Now the question is should people bet their life and the life of every living thing on this Planet on the 20% chance that Global Warming is a hoax or the 80% chance that the Global Warming is real.

100% - the climate always changes
100% - we don't live on a globe

 

[Compassion]

Worse than 911 . . . . .

DEW @ Paradise killed thousands.

WARNING: this video may lead to more intuition and logic fusing into cohesion . . . until the tipping point occurs and the red pill has fully been swallowed and assimilated into your DNA.

Perk after red pill consumption: Once the red pill is swallowed and alchemized, your BS detector will be top notch and an enhanced ability to discern truth from fiction will lead your every waking day.

 

[oldtimer]

100% - the climate always changes

You are right, Climate has always been changing and going through cold and warm periods throughout the history. But what is different now is that changes in Climate that took thousands or even millions of years to take place in the past are now happening in the span of a century (or even a few decades).

Although there have been sudden changes in the Climate in the past too due to asteroid impacts or volcanic activity, but what we are seeing now is mainly due to human activity.

IMO

100% - we don't live on a globe

Would you care to explain why you think that we don't live on a globe.

 

[Compassion]

Would you care to explain why you think that we don't live on a globe.

Ask your highest self a few questions . . .

1) Do we ever see water behave in a convex matter or does water always seek level? (as our language of sea level demonstrates)

2) What happens when one places some ants or water on a tennis ball and throws it? The centrifugal forces launch off the water and ants.

3) Would the strong fixed immovable Earth mentioned in many ancient texts match with the Jesuit spinning ball indoctrination?

4) Why do globes say "Not for educational purposes" on them?

4) Does an airplane fly across a plane?

The questions (and answers) are infinite . . .

Sure - Dubay is CIA Controlled Opposition, but a decent start pack of facts can be found here:

The age of Orwellian deception is coming to a close.
The proof is in our senses and souls

 

[oldtimer]

Ask your highest self a few questions . . .

1) Do we ever see water behave in a convex matter or does water always seek level? (as our language of sea level demonstrates)

2) What happens when one places some ants or water on a tennis ball and throws it? The centrifugal forces launch off the water and ants.

3) Would the strong fixed immovable Earth mentioned in many ancient texts match with the Jesuit spinning ball indoctrination?

4) Why do globes say "Not for educational purposes" on them?

4) Does an airplane fly across a plane?

The questions are infinite . . .

Sure - Dubay is CIA Controlled Opposition, but a decent start pack of facts can be found here:

The age of Orwellian deception is coming to a close.
The proof is in our senses and souls

So assuming that you are right and that we don't live on a globe, but don't we still have the obligation to take good care of our home Planet (or our home Plane as you might say).

 

[JB Lions]

Ask your highest self a few questions . . .

1) Do we ever see water behave in a convex matter or does water always seek level? (as our language of sea level demonstrates)

2) What happens when one places some ants or water on a tennis ball and throws it? The centrifugal forces launch off the water and ants.

3) Would the strong fixed immovable Earth mentioned in many ancient texts match with the Jesuit spinning ball indoctrination?

4) Why do globes say "Not for educational purposes" on them?

4) Does an airplane fly across a plane?

The questions (and answers) are infinite . . .

Sure - Dubay is CIA Controlled Opposition, but a decent start pack of facts can be found here:

The age of Orwellian deception is coming to a close.
The proof is in our senses and souls

This is really stuff you should have learned in elementary school. I can't tell if you're just joking/trolling or you really believe that nonsense.

https://www.google.com/search?q=glo...AKHZgHDYcQ9QEwDHoECAUQHA#imgrc=4aCiedcAjaAYeM:

 

[Compassion]

This is really stuff you should have learned in elementary school. I can't tell if you're just joking/trolling or you really believe that nonsense.

Knowing is different than believing.

I know to trust my senses.

I don't believe what others say to be true until I know it to be.

I know to trust my senses beyond any sort of indoctrination, and I've been through the indoctrination just like the rest of us.

The founders and financial backers of the General Education Board (GEB) made their intentions very clear.

Are you programmed to believe certain things to be true
Or do you know what is true?

 

[Compassion]

 

[JB Lions]

Knowing is different than believing.

I know to trust my senses.

I don't believe what others say to be true until I know it to be.

I know to trust my senses beyond any sort of indoctrination, and I've been through the indoctrination just like the rest of us.

The founders and financial backers of the General Education Board (GEB) made their intentions very clear.

Are you programmed to believe certain things to be true
Or do you know what is true?

I really hope you're joking. This isn't indoctrination, take some time, educate yourself - https://www.nasa.gov/

 

[Compassion]

I really hope you're joking. This isn't indoctrination, take some time, educate yourself - https://www.nasa.gov/

LOL
NASA!??
You trust those Nazis and Satanists?

 

[JB Lions]

LOL
NASA!??
You trust those Nazis and Satanists?

Yeah, you're totally gone. NASA folk, probably some of the smartest people you'll ever meet. You rather rely on YouTube conspiracy nutter videos.

 

[Compassion]

Yeah, you're totally gone.

More awake than ever....

Another meme for you JB