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This is a total catastrophe and failure for the World and humanity at large. There are some things that surpass national boundaries and borders like Human Rights and certain Environmental issues that affect the whole Globe which surely should be of concern to all of us. Whether it’s the Oceans and Rivers that have been polluted or whether it’s our air and soil that have been poisoned, it all has something to do with human activity like the Global Warming and the Melting of the Ice Caps and Glaciers which is going to put many coastal Cities and Communities under water soon. IMO

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Obama forced NASA to hire these doomsday cult scientists to give them credibility.
And they are taught a lie from their first day of doomsday science school.
What are they going to do if they figure out the truth.
Make tacos at Taco Bell?
 
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Obama forced NASA to hire these doomsday cult scientists to give them credibility.
And they are taught a lie from their first day of doomsday science school.
What are they going to do if they figure out the truth.
Make tacos at Taco Bell?

Well lets put what the scientists are saying aside for a minute, we all can see for ourselves all the once in a Century floods, fires, and hurricanes that are now happening much more frequently and are becoming more and more severe. I also saw a documentary on PBS (Public Broadcasting Service channel in the US) which compared the satellite photos from now to the ones taken a few years ago in which all of them were showing that the Glaciers and the permeate ice on Mountain tops are receding and in some cases have disappeared altogether. So you don't have to be a scientist to realize that something is out of whack.

And add to that all the fish and all the coral reef eco systems that are disappearing in the oceans and all the contaminates that have gotten into the air, water, and soil which are finding their way into the food chain then you can easily come to your own conclusion without having to listen to any scientist that mankind has really messed up his own home Planet.

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Don't forget about volcanoes, asteroids crashing into our planet,
intercontinental nuclear missiles from North Korea and Iran,
the Ebola virus, cancer, terrorists, rabid squirrels and radioactive
racoons. And check your house for radon and mold.
And is your wife sneaking out to meet her boyfriend when
you are at work?
 
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Don't forget about volcanoes, asteroids crashing into our planet,
intercontinental nuclear missiles from North Korea and Iran,
the Ebola virus, cancer, terrorists, rabid squirrels and radioactive
racoons. And check your house for radon and mold.
And is your wife sneaking out to meet her boyfriend when
you are at work?

Those are problems that unfortunately are also on the list that we have to be concerned about (although I wish you leave your wife out of this as we don't want this discussions to become personal).

The difference here is unlike the Global Warming there are not that many people who are denying that those other problems exist. Denying that Global Warming exists and that human activity had nothing to do with it is were the real danger lies, because when people refuse to take responsibility for what mankind has done to this Planet that automatically means that they are going to let all the damage and destruction continue until we are past the point of no return and that in my opinion is a betrayal of all the future generations that have to live with the consequences of the way that our Environmental problems are being handled by those who are in the position of power and influence around the World today.

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But we are not scientists. Why do you believe Global Warming is caused by human activity.
Can you differentiate a real scientist from a fraud? Are you listening to politicians?
Kari Mullis has a Nobel Prize and Japan Prize in Chemistry. 20 Years ago he said this:

"Politicians don't know anything about scientific things.
They just want to look like they do.
Somebody has to advise them.
Who are those advisors?
It's an important question because those people—who are
always having to come up with imminent disasters
that can be prevented by governmental projects—are
manipulating you. They are parasites with degrees..."

He also said the ozone hole scare was false also. And he has since been
proven correct and climate scientists have now backed off from that claim,
after we have spent billions of dollars to remove harmless CFC's from industry.
The Democrats want to waste trillions of dollars on Global Warming and destroy
our economy based on a lie!

I wrote the following:
https://www.powder.us/ozone/
 
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But we are not scientists. Why do you believe Global Warming is caused by human activity.

This is my opinion on the subject from earlier in this thread:

This planet has been experiencing Climate Changes for millions of years even before there were any humans, but what is making the difference now is the fact that instead of those changes taking place over thousands or millions of years they are now happening within a couple of centuries or even within a few decades. Absent any catastrophic events such as sudden volcanic interruptions or huge asteroid impacts human activity is now the biggest danger to the environment that needs to be addressed and corrected.

So lets say for the sake of the argument that the Ozone scare was false, what about all the other things that we can see with our own eyes that are getting worse as I had mentioned in my post earlier.

He also said the ozone hole scare was false also. And he has since been
proven correct and climate scientists have now backed off from that claim,
 
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This planet has been experiencing Climate Changes for millions of years even before there were any humans, but what is making the difference now is the fact that instead of those changes taking place over thousands or millions of years they are now happening within a couple of centuries or even within a few decades.
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Actually, a couple of centuries ago we had a "Little Ice Age"
Wikipedia description of the "Little Ice Age" follows:

"The Little Ice Age brought colder winters to parts of Europe and North America.
Farms and villages in the Swiss Alps were destroyed by encroaching glaciers
during the mid-17th century. Canals and rivers in Great Britain and the Netherlands
were frequently frozen deeply enough to support ice skating and winter festivals.
The first River Thames frost fair was in 1608 and the last in 1814; changes to
the bridges and the addition of the Thames Embankment affected the river flow
and depth, greatly diminishing the possibility of further freezes.
Freezing of the Golden Horn and the southern section of the Bosphorus took
place in 1622. In 1658, a Swedish army marched across the Great Belt to Denmark
to attack Copenhagen. The winter of 1794–1795 was particularly harsh: the French
invasion army under Pichegru was able to march on the frozen rivers of the
Netherlands, and the Dutch fleet was locked in the ice in Den Helder harbour.

Sea ice surrounding Iceland extended for miles in every direction, closing
harbors to shipping. The population of Iceland fell by half, but that may have
been caused by skeletal fluorosis after the eruption of Laki in 1783. Iceland also
suffered failures of cereal crops and people moved away from a grain-based diet.
The Norse colonies in Greenland starved and vanished by the early 15th century,
as crops failed and livestock could not be maintained through increasingly harsh
winters. Greenland was largely cut off by ice from 1410 to the 1720s.

According to Elizabeth Ewan and Janay Nugent, "Famines in France 1693–94,
Norway 1695–96 and Sweden 1696–97 claimed roughly 10 percent of the population
of each country. In Estonia and Finland in 1696–97, losses have been estimated
at a fifth and a third of the national populations, respectively."
Viticulture disappeared from some northern regions and storms caused serious
flooding and loss of life. Some of them resulted in permanent loss of large
areas of land from the Danish, German, and Dutch coasts."
 
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Actually, a couple of centuries ago we had a "Little Ice Age"

All kinds of anomalies are possible when it comes to Nature, but the fact is that the Oceans are warming and even though we might have an exceptionally cold season but the overall trend still shows that Global Warming is getting worse, now if you want to debate what exactly is causing the increase in temperature and don't believe that it has anything to do with human activity that is a separate matter from denying that Global Warming exists altogether as all measurements show that the Warming trend is real.

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If it gets too hot, then women will have to cover up completely or the sun will scorch their bodies!
 
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If it gets too hot, then women will have to cover up completely or the sun will scorch their bodies!

You should replace the word "Women" with "Everyone" in order to be politically correct.

In case you ever wondered why the Arabs wore so much clothes when walking in the Sahara it's because to protect their bodies from the Sun and more importantly from the heat in the air when it's over 120 degrees outside (that's almost 50 degrees Celsius). Same as firefighters who have to wear very heavy and thick uniforms for the same reasons although they probably have to deal with much more extreme situations, but it's the same principle.

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You should replace the word "Women" with "Everyone" in order to be politically correct.
Politically Correct? Me? LOL... Not even with a gun pointed to my head!

In case you ever wondered why the Arabs wore so much clothes when walking in the Sahara it's because to protect their bodies from the Sun and more importantly from the heat in the air when it's over 120 degrees outside (that's almost 50 degrees Celsius). Same as firefighters who have to wear very heavy and thick uniforms for the same reasons although they probably have to deal with much more extreme situations, but it's the same principle.
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Quite right. I am very aware of that fact, since I have experience in a similar field, where you need to cover up your skin from extreme heat, with clothing
 
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Politically Correct? Me? LOL... Not even with a gun pointed to my head!

We should all try to be a force for good and care as much about Humanity as we do about the Environment. Perhaps caring about Humanity starts with trying to be politically correct in our thoughts and actions so that we don't unknowingly hurt any one group.

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We should all try to be a force for good and care as much about Humanity as we do about the Environment. Perhaps caring about Humanity starts with trying to be politically correct in our thoughts and actions so that we don't unknowingly hurt any one group.

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Totally disagree with you... it's those that want to please everyone with their PC, that are mostly messing up. And you know what's amazing... it's that PC crowd (at least a large majority) that believes they own the truth and end up being extremely intolerant towards anyone disagreeing with them.

That's the main reason why I'm Politically Incorrect. It's been a struggle but I don't really care anymore about trying to please everyone...
 
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It's been a struggle but I don't really care anymore about trying to please everyone...

You don't have to go out of your way to please everyone, but at the same time you should be careful not to unintentionally demean a whole class of people.

IMO
 
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You don't have to go out of your way to please everyone, but at the same time you should be careful not to unintentionally demean a whole class of people.

IMO
Demean what class of people? Vagueness doesn't work with me... get to the point!
 
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Demean what class of people? Vagueness doesn't work with me... get to the point!

I already told you at the very beginning, you should have changed the word "Women" to "Everyone" in the description of your meme. Some women might find your meme offensive.
 
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I already told you at the very beginning, you should have changed the word "Women" to "Everyone" in the description of your mem. Some women might find your mem offensive.
The meme shows "women's panties" and there's absolutely NOTHING offensive about the meme... it's meant to bring some humor into this thread, while staying on the subject of climate change.

If anyone finds that offensive, then they have allowed political correctness to go beyond the point of no return
 
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If it gets too hot, then women will have to cover up completely or the sun will scorch their bodies!

The meme shows "women's panties" and there's absolutely NOTHING offensive about the meme... it's meant to bring some humor into this thread, while staying on the subject of climate change.

If anyone finds that offensive, then they have allowed political correctness to go beyond the point of no return

Why single out just the Women when what you are saying really applies to Everyone, some Women might find your joke degrading.

Nevertheless that's the way I think about this, others might think otherwise.

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Why single out just the Women when what you are saying really applies to Everyone, some Women might find your joke degrading.

Nevertheless that's the way I think about this, others might think otherwise.

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WOW... Why are you making a mountain out of a molehill? You really have no sense of humor.

There's nothing degrading about that meme... it's supposed to be funny. You're the only one complaining about it.

Adios... I've had enough of this pointless conversation and will make this my last post here.
 
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Adios... I've had enough of this pointless conversation and will make this my last post here.

Sorry to see you go, but I wish you had stayed,

Times have changed, some things that might not have been a big deal a few years ago are now considered to be inappropriate specially in a professional settings which these discussions were meant to be.

I hope that you reconsider and continue contributing to this thread all you have to do is to become a little more sensitive to other people's feelings and avoid making posts that are not politically correct.

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