question Email from Harvard Professor today on Domain Name! HELP!

[DomainBarracksRob]

Need some advice here, Still new to all this and this is my first major"talk/negation".

So about a month ago I reg'd APOPS. org on the drop I liked it for several reasons.

Today I got a email from Jerold S. Kayden - simply saying -"Have you purchased the domain name apops.org?"....I looked at the Email name tag and it said, GSD Harvard . edu . Of course I was like Wow this is cool. Naturally I looked him up and Turns out he is Professor of Urban Planning and Design at Harvard University's Graduate School of Design. Also Founder of Advocates of Privately Owned Public Spaces....(apops)!!!! Wow again....turns out his other title is "Urban planner and LAWYER"!!.......How safe am I here????I did not look up Trademarks or anything like that on the name, could him being a Lawyer make this more difficult??

Please read this link here with The info on him and APOPS, he has a large team of pre$tigiou$ people and ceo's
https://apops.mas.org/about/people/

I have not responed to his email yet. I need suggestions , thoughts, opinions , appraisals, and maybe even legal advice

Thank You

Robert

 

[xynames]

Okay so the lost domain is apops.org ? That domain has no value except to these people....

In my opinion, it's not relevant how much this professor makes, or doesn't make, but all my family including me went to Ivy League colleges and while our professors were all comfortable none that I was aware of was rich.

 

[DaveX]

If it was so important, they should have managed it properly. I think it was rude of them to not make a decent offer of compensation for any inconvenience to the buyer. Domain names are serious business and if they are not continuously registered, they become available.

You could respond saying that you are just a person that needed a domain and got that one. If they want the domain, they make a donation to you. Maybe a months salary of whoever made the mistake.

If they would rather file a UDRP, they can pay the $1500, prove their trademark, etc.

I wouldn't even respond.

 

[mems]

Here is the whois history from 8-22-17

apops.org
Registrant Name: Jerold Kayden
Registrant Organization: Harvard Graduate School of Design
Updated Date: 2017-08-21T16:01:50Z
Creation Date: 2003-07-22T15:06:29Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2018-07-22T15:06:29Z
Domain Status: pendingDelete https://icann.org/epp#pendingDelete

If you note the Expiry Date, it shows 2018 while he was still listed in the whois as owner.
Whois history then shows this on 9-26-2017
Creation Date: 2017-09-26T17:13:39Z

Looks like it was a glitch and he is being truthful.

 

[Lox]

whoever made the mistake

Looks like it was a glitch and he is being truthful.

by domainprocessor. Old software & the upgrade process is always painful.

 

[mems]

by domainprocessor. Old software & the upgrade process is always painful.

Really?

 

[Haris]

Or you will end up developing it ?

He will end up dropping it.

 

[xynames]

Okay so the lost domain is apops.org ? That domain has no value except to these people....

Oops I was wrong, so there is another apops...here's another apops non-profit, Association for Pelvic Organ Prolapse Support
http://www.pelvicorganprolapsesupport.org/
maybe they will want it?

Will there be a bidding war?

Just kidding, that wouldn't be right....

 

[Lox]

Really?

it's their service, their software, their rules and let's say resposibility. I moved out years ago

 

[DomainBarracksRob]

....if you haven't looked up "Harvard Professor Salary" on google....you should!!!!

Also ..he is not Just a professor!...forget about the organization, this guy is Farrrrr from broke!

I've done sales and have a friend which is the best salesperson I know, he has told me this guy is a Shark..DO NOT BE A MINNOW.

It was mentioned that it would be nice to have a Harvard Law Professor as a friend.......this guy would forget my First name the second I "gave" it to him for nothing. No favors would come about .

I respect Honesty and I would be more generous had he not try to take me for a fool in the email.

But he is smart, a business man, trying to buy/regain at lowest price possible. That's not poor, that's could thinking thinking. Being to soft tin the past has just left me the runner up, and you know what a shark likes more than a minnow, a sucker.

If you haven't looked up "Harvard Professor Salary" just yet as of 2012 the average was $131,200 and the high was $198,400.

As I said before he is not just a professor at Harvard, he is a Business man with other investments , and has invested in this APOPS .org no matter how crappy or useful we can debate on about this name, it's valued by him and ...me!

I have learned a lot from reading on this forum as you all recommend to do. TOO many times have I seen the post, offthe push over story and the story of how they said they would Never pay that price, .....the domainer set a BIN, and the enduser came back a snatched it up at 5x times what everyone was expecting . My gut tells me this guy Wants it, and is someone who could easly drop 1500 on a item if he or she decided they want it.

I like what Silentptner said best, about didn't even offer, and not responding! Therefore I appreciate you all......and believe my choice of action is to set my BIN price on GD and ignore him for a week if nothing happens then I will write him! I personally will not let it go for less than $999 because it's my name and that's what I see in it..........and if I'm never able to sell it again if he passes, well I'm out $8.99 and life goes on! That's my risk I'm willing to take.

"Great reward comes at the risks of enormous failure"

 

[xynames]

Well, please keep us posted on what transpires. Since we all went to the trouble of posting here, please don't disappear on us and let us know!

 

[DomainBarracksRob]

Well, please keep us posted on what transpires. Since we all went to the trouble of posting here, please don't disappear on us and let us know!

I am no Ghost my friend ! Not going anywhere, and I thank you all.

 

[johnn]

Ask him to send his daughter picture to you.
Depending on how her look you can price the name accordingly.
i.e. beautiful and single - give it to him free - ugly and married - charge full retail price.

FYI, I just sold an .org name to a non-profit organization for high $x,xxx after they told me they don't have money and low ball me for $100.

 

[Dominique]

I would say its more likely you will get cease and desist letter, than a $100 from a lawyer.

 

[karmaco]

If you registered the name after the drop and it has an active trademark by another party you need to have no lander or a lander that has no indication you are marketing it for sale. Getting the name before it dropped its age would have been better. Now it’s somewhat of a liability. Even though this guy does not have a trademark he was using the acronym for ten years. My email would have been that I bought it with a future personal project in mind. Make no mention of a trademark etc as the reason you got the name.

Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture and not register a name with a known active trademark.Honestly not sure what I would do now. My gut says make him bring up a dollar amount first not you and get rid of it. I would not give it to him. I would act uninterested unless he offered a reasonable fair price.

 

[karmaco]

....if you haven't looked up "Harvard Professor Salary" on google....you should!!!!

Also ..he is not Just a professor!...forget about the organization, this guy is Farrrrr from broke!

I've done sales and have a friend which is the best salesperson I know, he has told me this guy is a Shark..DO NOT BE A MINNOW.

It was mentioned that it would be nice to have a Harvard Law Professor as a friend.......this guy would forget my First name the second I "gave" it to him for nothing. No favors would come about .

I respect Honesty and I would be more generous had he not try to take me for a fool in the email.

But he is smart, a business man, trying to buy/regain at lowest price possible. That's not poor, that's could thinking thinking. Being to soft tin the past has just left me the runner up, and you know what a shark likes more than a minnow, a sucker.

If you haven't looked up "Harvard Professor Salary" just yet as of 2012 the average was $131,200 and the high was $198,400.

As I said before he is not just a professor at Harvard, he is a Business man with other investments , and has invested in this APOPS .org no matter how crappy or useful we can debate on about this name, it's valued by him and ...me!

I have learned a lot from reading on this forum as you all recommend to do. TOO many times have I seen the post, offthe push over story and the story of how they said they would Never pay that price, .....the domainer set a BIN, and the enduser came back a snatched it up at 5x times what everyone was expecting . My gut tells me this guy Wants it, and is someone who could easly drop 1500 on a item if he or she decided they want it.

I like what Silentptner said best, about didn't even offer, and not responding! Therefore I appreciate you all......and believe my choice of action is to set my BIN price on GD and ignore him for a week if nothing happens then I will write him! I personally will not let it go for less than $999 because it's my name and that's what I see in it..........and if I'm never able to sell it again if he passes, well I'm out $8.99 and life goes on! That's my risk I'm willing to take.

"Great reward comes at the risks of enormous failure"

Remember you are dealing with an attorney. He can give a heads up to the trademark holder if you handle him rudely. I guess no reply is best with your frame of mind on the matter, Hopefully that buy it now on a trademarked acronym won’t come back to bite you.

 

[usernamex]

@jberryhill - comments welcome : smile :

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

ummm I think this thread or at least all mention of this domain in this thread should be deleted by mods for your benefit as all mentions of it will be easily viewed on Google.

do it quick if it's not too late. if these people are rich? and their team screwed up? guaranteed they are googling your domain and I bet namepros will show this thread.

that would suck as it will show your "Game plan"

good luck!


"Give them nothing. But Take from them Everything!"

 

[jberryhill]

@jberryhill - comments welcome : smile :

Oh, I doubt it.

 

[DomainBarracksRob]

ummm I think this thread or at least all mention of this domain in this thread should be deleted by mods for your benefit as all mentions of it will be easily viewed on Google.

do it quick if it's not too late. if these people are rich? and their team screwed up? guaranteed they are googling your domain and I bet namepros will show this thread.

that would suck as it will show your "Game plan"

good luck!


"Give them nothing. But Take from them Everything!"

Makes a very good point....it comes up on the 3rd page of google. Should we remove it or at leastthe domain from the thread MODS?(everyone always and say they can;t do much without the name so I put it up here, and now yea) this was done typing the name and a space then org.

 

[DomainBarracksRob]

There is nothing in the web archives since 2005 and your "for sale" page in Sept 2017. In 2005 the domain forwarded to a geocities website. If the lawyer had the name he didn't make good use of it. The non profit may not have any money but I bet the lawyer does. Personally I may have been willing to deal with him until I got the "I'm broke" BS. Heard that so many times that it usually makes me go the other way now. But it all depends on how bad do you want to keep the domain or how generous you are. Even if you only get low $xxx for it, it may be better than keeping it for 5 years then letting it expire unsold.

Basically How I feel about it.