Dynadot Changes Domain Expiration Policy Today

[Silentptnr]

Just got this in my email...

This notice is to inform you of an update to our renewal grace period policy. As you know, with many top-level domains (TLDs), we give you up to a 40 day grace renewal period that allows you to renew your domain at the same price after it has expired. Starting April 15 00:00 UTC, we will be reducing this period by 10 days for each TLD. During the final 10 days of the TLD's renewal grace period, you will still be able to renew your domain, but with an additional late renewal fee of $10.

For example, if you own a .COM domain that expires on January 1, 2018, you would be able to renew your domain at the regular renewal price until January 30, 2018. After this date and until the domain is deleted on February 9, 2018, you would be charged a $10 late renewal fee, so your total renewal cost would be $20.99 ($10 fee + $10.99 regular renewal price).

Please note that we do start sending renewal notices out 60 days in advance of your expiration date. We recommend you keep your account email up-to-date to ensure you receive these messages. We also offer the option to set a different renewal email address and set your domains to auto-renew.

If you have any questions, please email us at [email protected].

Best,
Team Dynadot
dynadot.com

 

[Domainstore]

Hi all. Thank you for your feedback. We realize this is a big change. We're hoping this new fee will help reduce the number of expired auction orders we see cancelled due to renewal. When we set up our auction system, the cancellation rate was at 6%. That has grown greatly in recent years. It seems some Registrants would use the auctions as a way to appraise their domains before renewing. For those that simply forgot, or maybe did not have the available funds, we can manually waive the fee.

1/I don't like this at all. This will have consequences I presume. As godaddy let you still transfer out till 41stday, despite the fact that somebody won the auction.
2/And how you will determin "For those that simply forgot, or maybe did not have the available funds, we can manually waive the fee." who these people are ?
3/And what about domains of which is asked by owner to put in a transferrable position after expiry ? How many days ???
4/AND HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A CHANGEMENT OF RENEWALEND OF 10 DAYS IS MENTIONED ONLY TWO DAYS IN ADVANCE ?????

 

[Domainstore]

Almost all domains I've bought at DynaDot expired auctions got renewed afterwards.

So an auction win for an expired domain will go to the winner no matter what from now on? Or can the owner still reclaim it post-auction by paying the $10 fee?

It's obvious it's the latter.

Sorry it's not 2 DAYS but a MONTH IN ADVANCE you warn. But that doesn't make it a lesser bad decision IMHO.

 

[Arca]

It's obvious it's the latter.

I see. If you buy an expiring a name at namesilo, there is no way for the owner to claw it back post-auction (owner can only renew while domain is in auction, not after the pre-release auction has ended). And if you buy an expiring domain at name.com, the name arrives in your account instantly. Don't see why DynaDot couldn't change their system so they also deliver all auction wins consistently, like namesilo and name.com is doing. The introduction of a $10 fee is a step in the right direction at least.

 

[Domainstore]

I see. If you buy an expiring a name at namesilo, there is no way for the owner to claw it back post-auction (owner can only renew while domain is in auction, not after the pre-release auction has ended). And if you buy an expiring domain at name.com, the name arrives in your account instantly. Don't see why DynaDot couldn't change their system so they also deliver all auction wins consistently, like namesilo and name.com is doing. The introduction of a $10 fee is a step in the right direction at least.

You know : At Godaddy the current owner also can renew the domain, paying a fee.And transfer is also possibile after somebody won and payed. Godaddy is the biggest registrar as you know..
And name.com does the following => The best domains don't go to name-aftermarket-auction, they go to Namejet, that auctions them starting at 69 USD. And the name-aftermarketauctions themselves begin with thousands and gradually decrease as the auction goes on.

And some days ago I LOST a domainname to a Domainsilo-auction. I was furious. Just forgot (had mother that was very sick all night etc...) and was 4 hours too late to renew. I mailed to the new owner (who got the domain immediately as you explain) : NO WAY he would sell the domain back to me for double of the registrationprice.. He said he would not sell the domain for less then 4 figures. He mentioned that I was scamming. (I lost a similar name half a year ago, also to him and also at namesilo, and again something had happened.
BUT AFTERWARDS I emailed back saying that everything I wrote had been the truth, and that he simply should check a whois-archive to see that I WAS the previous owner. He replied with excuses for his using such harsh words in his emails. But the domains are lost for me..........

I don't like these aftermarketauctions => They let me loose several times domains that I still wanted to renew, and it is NOT with the intention to see how high the domains go that I renew nearly always the last day. It's because of financial reasons. ==> AND I DID THAT BACK IN THE TIME WHEN DDOT HAD NO AFTERMARKET AUCTIONS, AND ALSO SINCE THEY INTRODUCED AUCTIONS.
WHAT I FIND of this new policy is that Dynadot is IMHO discriminating long-term members. Especially new persons want participate in these auctions. What doesn't mean I never buy an auction name.

But they could loose big customers over this..
It's TRUE WHAT DDOT WRITES => WE GET SEVERAL EMAILS about EXPIRATION. BUT I WAS ALWAYS MORE INTERESTED INGETTING AN EMAIL 2 DAYS BEFORE DELETION OR SO.
Why should domainers (with no websites on particular domains) renew before expiration ??? The actual deletion is at 40 days after expiry and now they gonna change that in fact to 30.

 

[Domainstore]

That extra 10 days used to be very useful when you were in a cash crunch. Now it's going to cost an extra $10 to renew from 31 to 40 days. This is still a fair price for not renewing your domains on time. Better than most companies. IMHO. I'll just have to adjust my strategies. I'd have preferred the status quo. But it's a fair policy.

I also peferred the status quo.

 

[offthehandle]

GREAT NEWS. Thank you @Dynadot for this change. However, I think you should double the "fine" to $160. and send a message. Dynadot lost nearly $300 for a domain I paid for at auction and it was renewed by the previous owner, gaming the system. And I still don't participate so it's thousands in lost revenue I pay at other real auctions, so until this problem goes away I can't waste my time or anywhere else with similar problems as it isn't an absolute auction, the domain should be held for the ICANN Fee of $.018, until it can be sold. Then auctioned.

I have no sympathy for people without money management skills. Credit cards work great for cash problems. This is a business, so if you truly value a domain, you can pay for a 3 year renewal. The price of going out to dinner at your local McDonalds.

They send out what 12 emails to remind you?

Take personal responsibility for your problems, don't blame the vendor.

 

[dr manos]

According to ICANN, original registrant has 40 days expiring period to renew the name with normal fee and 30 days redemption period when can renew with bigger fee, this is the established life cycle of domains.
Asking for bigger fee during expiring periods or auction the name does not seem so legal to me.

 

[Aboutdomains]

Nop, i have transferred many times away from godaddy at 40th day

I love your advice. Thanks

 

[Haris]

Jason Newby has paid $20 renewal for dozens of domains in the past few weeks.

 

[Name Trader]

Jason Newby has paid $20 renewal for dozens of domains in the past few weeks.

Do you mean the $10 renewal fee? I do this too, for a miniscule number of domains per year, where I have a change of heart about this renewal fee. We can do this between day 30- 40 after expiry. I'm not sure of what the auction timetable is when superimposed upon this renewal timetable. But I've lost a number of auctions after I've paid for them, to renewals and/or transfers. Perhaps @Dynadot could explain more clearly the auction timetable, which would explain why won and paid for auctions can still be taken away from the auction winners.

 

[offthehandle]

So I receive several notices about a domain about to expire. I ignore them all.

I let it expire and once the auction opens I receive ANOTHER email while it is in auction, in order to bid on on it! I didn’t, but believe I should have tested to check this wasn’t the case. On the face of it, this email it seems to me is to encourage to renewal and the $10 fee mentioned that or shill bidding, as it was the exact same format of the other email I mentioned before above in this thread. Then another (2) additional auction reminder emails come in. All ignored.

Has anyone else actually checked? Anyone clicked on this email and determined even though the name is in auction, once that your login credentials are entered, and that you are prevented from bidding and requires immediate renewal?
I certainly hope this prevents you from bidding on your own name.
I would hope so. Appreciate any feedback.
Thanks.

 

[Name Trader]

Dupe Post. Even Top Members make mistakes

 

[offthehandle]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/dy...tion-policy-today.1006742/page-2#post-6693025

(2) years in a row the same dumb-mainer did this to get a free appraisal. The name was renewed and bids were $XXX

Between this and most all the other auction platform issues, I have ended participation.

 

[Dynadot]

@offthehandle It is my clear understanding that the $10 extra renewal fee which is payable between 31 and 40 days after expiry, EXCEPT whilst the domain is in auction from days 31-37 (I think). Then if nobody bids on the auction, you can renew with this extra $10 again from days 38-40.

The owner can renew during the full 40 day period, including during the auction. However, during that 30-40 day period, if someone wants to renew, there is the extra fee.

offthehandle, is the domain in question also on your watchlist?

 

[Name Trader]

The owner can renew during the full 40 day period, including during the auction. However, during that 30-40 day period, if someone wants to renew, there is the extra fee.

OK. So that means if we renew the domain it is removed from the auction. Correct.

It's funny. Because I had thought the situation had changed and we could not renew the domain whilst it is in auction. Could you please check this fact, and confirm that we can still renew whilst the domain is at auction, with the late renewal fee of $10, of course.

 

[Name Trader]

I can confirm that we can still renew domains which are ours and are currently in auction. Plus the late renewal fee of $10 (of course).

 

[offthehandle]

I can confirm that we can still renew domains which are ours and are currently in auction. Plus the late renewal fee of $10 (of course).

What happened when you clicked the “Place your bid now” link?

 

[Haris]

It says you "need to renew the domain".

A person may still do shill bidding using a 2nd account

 

[Name Trader]

A person may still do shill bidding using a 2nd account

That flaw is not just restricted to domains at Dynadot. It could apply to million dollar 2nd hand cars as well

Besides. What would be the point of shill bidding on a domain you have decided to drop? With no financial interest to the shill bidder?

 

[Haris]

That flaw is not just restricted to domains at Dynadot. It could apply to million dollar 2nd hand cars as well

Besides. What would be the point of shill bidding on a domain you have decided to drop? With no financial interest to the shill bidder?

pissing off other bidders.. lol

 

[Name Trader]

pissing off other bidders.. lol

Sorry. But I don't see that as a productive use of my time Do people really do that?

 

[offthehandle]

It says you "need to renew the domain".

So you are confirming that once you click on the bid link, it immediately displays a new message about logging in, then it flags you are bidding on your own name, and prevents it? If so, that answers my question.

 

[Name Trader]

So you are confirming that once you click on the bid link, it immediately displays a new message about logging in, then it flags you are bidding on your own name, and prevents it? If so, that answers my question.

I'm usually already logged in. Yes. If I click on the bid link. I immediately get that message, and cannot bid in the auction, for a domain owned by me.

 

[Display Spears]

Dynadot guarantees the full expiring period (40 days) in favor of owner, but not the 30 days redemption.
If name has bids at auction, owner will not have the redemption period, if not, owner can renew it for 30 days more with the redemption fee.

So the auction timetable is like this:
Auction starts at end of 30th day of expiration (at this time +$10 fee for owner applies).
Auction is for 6 days.
At the end of 6th day auction ends and winner has 2 days to pay (if no payment then 2nd bidder has 2 days to take it).
Owner has a time window from 37th day to end of 40th to renew it (as dynadot guarantees the whole 40 day expiration period) so at this case auction is cancelled and auction winner is refunded.

Thanks for this great comment.

Does it still work the same in 2023?

 

[Caleb Tweed]

Thanks for this great comment.

Does it still work the same in 2023?

Yes this is still how it works! Slight alteration to , "if no payment then 2nd bidder has 2 days to take it"
the 2nd place bidder only has 1 day to submit payment, however there is no consequence if they choose not to pay for it!