Drop-Catch battles

Labeled as information in Domain Expiration and Domain Drop Catching, started by BeachLife, May 26, 2020


  1. BeachLife

    BeachLife Established Member

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    Hey, guys,

    It's a fairly wide-open subject, but would anyone mind to help my 10 year old homeschool son to understand how different drop-catch companies 'battle' over the names that are expiring? He's been learning coding for a couple of years so these things naturally fascinate him.

    Thank you in advance.
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  2. Peak.Domains

    Peak.Domains Account Closed (Requested) VIP

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    I'm curious about this too :)
  3. Rich

    Rich Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Keep trying, one day you will
  5. othellotech

    othellotech Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Every accredited registrar for a specific TLD is assigned a set of credentials (login details for want of a better term) for connecting to the registry for domain reg/update/renew/etc

    Those connections are limited (in number of concurrent activities) and in performance (speed/capacity) as well as being affected by thinge like HW capabilities, local and upstream network, route-between-ASNs and many more factors.

    This is why _some_ dropcatchers operate _hundreds_ of inter-related registrars (ICANN love this as it's millions more in quarterly fees to fritter) and the most advanced then disperse the actual machinery that is doing the catch to locations where there are short "links" between catcher-system and registry-system.

    In general less switching, less cabling, less 3rd party networks etc all contribute *in a very very small way* to the ability to "be first" in a race (assuming everything else about the software/systems are mostly equal)

    That's very high-level without delving into the drop date/time, status monitoring, difference between info/avail epp checks and reg attempts etc

    In "pecking order" at best it could be balanced into a "tree of opportunity"
    Registry at the top
    Each individual Registrar equally underneath
    Each Reseller equally underneath
    Handreggers equally underneath
    Opportunists under that

    Bear in mind that more than 50% of the 400million domain names do nothing but cycle around domainers/drop-catchers/speculators - and often the %age is much higher as domain-age plays a part

    e.g. of 1735 domains in pending-delete at one registrar when I did some checking 726 of them had dropped previously and only 187 of the others had been anything other than "parked" prior to expiry - whilst not a large sample, the inference is sub 15% of names get really "used" for something and around 50% of domains that are just bought to resell, do not sell, and get eventually dumped only to repeat with the next domainer/catcher !
  6. enterscope

    enterscope Domain Investments Gold Account

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    Domain names have a set time at which they are dropped every day; for instance .com is between 1 pm and 2:15 pm CST, and the exact time each domain is dropped is randomized.

    You can "catch" a domain by hand just by bulk searching a list of domains with your registrar and then registering the domain when it becomes available. Large companies and programmers write software that "brute force" attempts to register domains and the more popular are domain is the more competition.

    Your chances as a small-time domainer, even with coding knowledge, of catching a super premium domain are slim (but not impossible). There's always a chance to get lucky.

    Domains that are caught by drop catching services go to auction and are bid on by investors. This is a good way to get started investing in domains right away because if an auction has bids then most likely it is valuable. Good luck!

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