poll Downvoting should be removed

[Chieff]

I have suggestion that downvoting should be removed from forum

Downvoting facilitate mob mentality

Don't know why community like namepros still have it

Reasons:

1. It stops ppl from sharing different opinions
2. People don't want to see difference in opinion use downvote as a tool to pull down

 

[Samer]

Get rid of anonymous downvotes.
You dont have to get rid of all downvotes.
Just get rid of anonymous dv; you incentivize cowards.

 

[BaileyUK]

Oh come on! We are all grown-ups here, downvotes shouldn't stop you from anything, get some inspiration from @QUAD DOMAINS

I see your a new member. So no comment about flippancy.

Stay around a while. Contribute to the best of your experience and I guess we'll see. Re Quad domains, No I don't like to see that. Ignoring a thread, or even a members posts has always been the members prevalence of choice. I don't mind seeking out a new, perhaps more constructive forum. I've only stayed around to help the new entrants find their feet. Plus of-course learn myself from some of the more experienced hands

 

[MAINNET]

Oh come on! We are all grown-ups here, downvotes shouldn't stop you from anything, get some inspiration from @QUAD DOMAINS

Exactly!

 

[NameInbox]

"Downvoting should be removed"
Someone can tell "Likes, Thanks should be removed"
This actions on forum, it's all about psihology: Why people focus on it( their Impact number)? Why and how rate others? ...
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NP staff playing their own play. They are rules makers here.​

imo

 

[Peter45]

Upvotes are anonymous too. I don’t see how they could remove one without the other.

Downvote balances out upvote

I'm not going to make the point that up- or downvoting is fans behavior, rather I'm questioning the idea of parity or equitability which underlines most arguments for upholding downvoting.


"If you prevent people to boo the opposite team you have to prevent them to not support their own either."

What's wrong with this conclusion?
Where lies the fallacy?

 

[Peter45]

"Upvoting and Downvoting are the two specular sides of the same activity, so that for the sake of symmetry , of equal treatment, if we take away one option we should take away the other one too."

The problem with this argument is, within human interactions agreeing and disagreeing are not specular activities.
For example, when you agree with someone you don't need to explain why, but when you disagree with him it's appropriate to explain why.
It's not just a question of politeness, it's about the logic of human interactions.


Or think about this: someone explains something.
When you say "I agree" it's supposed that you're agreeing not only with his conclusion but also with the reasoning that led to that conclusion.
But when you say "I disagree" that person has no idea what reasoning lies behind your judgement.

Within human interactions agreeing and disagreeing follow a different logic.

Upvoting and downvoting are not simply the two specular sides of the same activity.
They are not simply two buttons, the left one and the right one, so that if we take away the left one we should as well take away the right one, in order to not create disparity.

I think it's unrealistic describing upvoting and downvoting as symmetrical, just as the + and - of the same activity.

 

[Amit V]

Anonymous downvoting is for cowards.

 

[Lox]

NPs has changed since intro downvoting and for majority of NPs members, it seems like downvoting is essentially tied to an emotion of hate (giving = getting). The NPs management should not participate in accumulating hate.

IMO

Regards

 

[MAINNET]

Downvotes seem a bit counterintuitive for a platform that’s considered a vessel for education by many investors. Everyone is, in essence, a teacher and student here; so downvotes don’t necessarily support this dynamic. They’re a source of contention.

Yes, Namepros is a forum; but it also doubles as a classroom. If anything, there should be a more constructive way to express one’s disagreement with viewpoints shared here. Needless to say, it’s evident the downvote is used as a mechanism to encourage division.

 

[Bla2e]

How about downvoting/upvoting not getting accounted for anything? As currently it affects the "impact" parameter right?

Maybe change what affects the "impact" parameter? Since other than Up/Down vote, there is Like & Thanks too.

So maybe just Like & Thanks should be considered for "impact" score?

 

[johnn]

It has been months since the start of the thread but NP staff did not reply to this thread either Why they keep the down voting or Will they remove it?

 

[Lox]

For the NPs Admins & Ownership ... Open / Public message:

Remove angry bird anon Up & Down voting before is too late. You know it is harmful / hate collector / and I know where this will end. (And you know I can predict the outcome based on external data ... Back in 2019 I warn you about the E RM promo but you didn't want to understand... + you allowed the dot Best CEO shameless shilling).

I'm asking to roll back, update ToS + start respecting what other people have to say & suggest - based on their experience. More and more positive thinking members starts to contribute ZERO. Only a bunch of us trying to bring common sense - the rest ... well, go figure.

Enough is Enough.

Regards

 

[Peter45]

NP staff playing their own play. They are rules makers here.​

Exactly. And the rules makers have created a section in this forum, Suggestions and Feedback.
That's why this thread makes sense.

 

[Peter45]

Oh come on! We are all grown-ups here, downvotes shouldn't stop you from anything, get some inspiration from @QUAD DOMAINS

In other words those against anonymous downvoting haven't grown up



Impact scores are treated as a sign of how credible a forum's member is. Maybe they aren't a trustworthy sign for that, but willy nilly that's how they are treated.
Someone with a low Impact score is considered inexperienced.
Someone with a negative Impact score is considered a troll.

Maybe those against anonymous downvoting have more self-esteem than him and you and don't like to risk to be considered trolls.
That doesn't mean that we are snowflakes.

 

[Samer]

Not sure why any’d want anon downvotes…
Thank you to all who voted in my thread:
Made it after i was Inspired by this thread!

https://www.namepros.com/threads/downvoting-should-not-be-anonymous.1302308/#post-8921983

 

[Samer]

In other words those against anonymous downvoting haven't grown up



Impact scores are treated as a sign of how credible a forum's member is. Maybe they aren't a trustworthy sign for that, but willy nilly that's how they are treated.
Someone with a low Impact score is considered inexperienced.
Someone with a negative Impact score is considered a troll.

Maybe those against anonymous downvoting have more self-esteem than him and you and don't like to risk to be considered trolls.
That doesn't mean that we are snowflakes.

The fact it’s anonymous almost incentivizes the shilling.
The fact hurts impact score is insult to injury. Well said!!

 

[Samer]

For the NPs Admins & Ownership ... Open / Public message:

Remove angry bird anon Up & Down voting before is too late. You know it is harmful / hate collector / and I know where this will end. (And you know I can predict the outcome based on external data ... Back in 2019 I warn you about the E RM promo but you didn't want to understand... + you allowed the dot Best CEO shameless shilling).

I'm asking to roll back, update ToS + start respecting what other people have to say & suggest - based on their experience. More and more positive thinking members starts to contribute ZERO. Only a bunch of us trying to bring common sense - the rest ... well, go figure.

Enough is Enough.

Regards

Keep anonymous upvotes.
i’m like that positive santa with upvote gifts.
Sometimes i give them to neutralize negative.

What you are suggesting is too radical, when NP moves to change at a snail’s pace. I would be delighted if anonymous downvotes are begone! You can do it, NP.

 

[Lox]

That doesn't mean that we are snowflakes.

LMAO

 

[MAINNET]

In other words those against anonymous downvoting haven't grown up



Impact scores are treated as a sign of how credible a forum's member is. Maybe they aren't a trustworthy sign for that, but willy nilly that's how they are treated.
Someone with a low Impact score is considered inexperienced.
Someone with a negative Impact score is considered a troll.

Maybe those against anonymous downvoting have more self-esteem than him and you and don't like to risk to be considered trolls.
That doesn't mean that we are snowflakes.

So, the biggest issue with anonymous downvoting is that it doesn't leave ANY room whatsoever for context UNLESS the downvote is paired with a written explanation of WHY it was given. There are "default upvoters and downvoters". Default upvoters and downvoters are likely the people who lean too heavily into the NamePros badge count and profile stats rather than the actual content itself after so long. I could say "water is wet" and there are people who will downvote this simple, and true, statement by default because of QUAD's history of being downvoted. However, if someone more decorated like say @bobhawkes says "water is dry" he'll likely get upvotes by default. Regardless of whether it's true or not. People will likely downvote this comment just because of that last sentence. Thank goodness Bob likely understands the reason for the example.

The Namepros upvote and downvote system is flawed to say the least. It's one of the platform's value-reducing elements. The lack of context allows a skewed narrative to be sculpted about a poster even if they're respectful, convey a sound perspective and keep the conversation going despite mob-like criticism and downvotes. Unfortunately, Namepros doesn't offer badges for resilient posters. If you dig into Quad's posting history you'll notice we've NEVER been rude or anything. We've planted seeds for healthy dialogue; but have been met with resistance when the Namepros status-quo is challenged. This makes Namepros feel more like a "club" than an "open-forum". Nevertheless, they have the power to run it as they please; and anyone who doesn't like it can scadaddle. Even those who lead with healthy dialogue. It's one heck of a dynamic; and definitely seems like narrative control.

 

[Samer]

@QUAD DOMAINS,
You are the classiest guy here and you dont deserve -199 impact (as of this moment)

You take everything in stride; and i strongly believe taking away anonymity would reduce it by 90% more. You’re a good man!! Not once lost your cool. Thank you.

Samer