Domainers being rude when you ask about selling?

[inspiration100]

I bumped into a very rude domainer here on namepros and dp and I'm curious how often this happens to people when inquiring about domains? I asked him if he was interested in selling his domain and how much. He responds to me saying he is very much into the industry of the domain I was inquiring upon but would consider an offer. My email was simple and to the point:

Hey there,
Curious how much/if you'd be willing to sell ******Hacks.com (edited for SEO reasons).
How would you want for the name?

He simply responds and says I'm wasting his time. He then goes on to make fun of me on his personal blog saying that this is not how you should do domain transactions.

Has something like this ever happened to you?

Thanks!

 

[DJ-Sound]

I've had my share of disrespect and unprofessionalism in here and every industry. People hiding behind their computers pretend to be something and often embarrass only themselves.

This is one of the drawbacks of networking online, you can only sit back and laugh, then move on.

 

[inspiration100]

Yeah your right DJ. Well on that note though, does anyone else believe that a gmail email means a lowballer? Sounds like something made up to me. About 1/2 the world uses gmail. I guess we've hit the point where to some people if you don't use a business email, your considered useless as far as a sale.

 

[JoshuaPz]

He's clearly not open to selling the name to a domainer, which he could clearly tell you are, and probably has a specific corporate enduser or two he's expecting an inquiry from down the road.

But yes, I agree, he crossed the line of professionalism and put on the sort of rhetorical display that, over the years, has helped to cultivate public perception of domainers as greedy low-lives.

 

[inspiration100]

He's clearly not open to selling the name to a domainer, which he could clearly tell you are, and probably has a specific corporate enduser or two he's expecting an inquiry from down the road.

That's probably exactly where he is headed with this. Thanks for your response. Too bad he wouldn't just say that instead of making a huge deal and then putting it on his blog!

 

[namenut]

I would venture to say this person carries a hand dolly for his ego. This type personality
needs to be asked so they can spew their egomaniacal nonsense retorts. Top that with a
script kiddies machismo and courage and you get that type of response. He actually is an
rude and should speak with a bit of decorum if he expects to
be taken seriously.


He needed fodder for his lil info site. You just came along at the right time. Don't let
it bother you. The language you used was just fine. Your approach was generic but
harmless. Not all domainers are this ill mannered.

Here is the same type of reply "he" made in 2003. He lists 150 names for sale. In a Make
an offer format. He then places " $5 " next to a select few names. He gets an offer
of $10 from a forum member and you can see his response is similar to the way he
replied to you. Again .... he sets the trap so he can show off...


Good luck

NN

 

[inspiration100]

Yikes, that's very rude to a new member of a forum. Oh well, it's over and done with. I just wish these people worked in fast food instead of domaining. We have such a great community at namepros which is why I do almost all my transactions through the forum.

 

[athletec64]

I know of him, he's been in the domain business for a while, he used to be at targetedtrafficforum.

Anyway, but yea, he could have been more professional.

 

[tristanperry]

He sounds like an ass. Chances are he's reading this, but it is the truth.

There's "tough love", and there's being an ass. He's being the latter.

If he wasn't interested in selling it, he should have said this plainly. Not copy and paste some "I've got development plans" mumbo jumbo from someone who clearly isn't an end user. (Such a response can be decent for an end user - albeit looking a bit dis-interested. Saying it to a domainer is just pointless).

All I'd say is, in the future, don't be drawn in. Some people have huge egos and the best thing to do is ignore them. Plain and simple

 

[dbtbandit67]

doesn't surprise me, typical behavior from a dirty speculator. that's part of the reason why i'm not a pure domainer. the bigger reason being i dont want to scan lists all day lol

 

[SpareDomains]

I guess we've hit the point where to some people if you don't use a business email, your considered useless as far as a sale.

I'll admit that if I receive a gmail offer I'll check the ip, google the name, phone and email but if nothing pops up to indicate end user I ignore them and I know a few others that only sell to end users like myself that hit delete on free email address offers if google doesn't turn up any info on them, these days with scams getting worse nobody wants to deal with joe4656789777889@gmail and when you only sell to end users at end user pricing you can afford the luxury of not responding to anonymous offers and you eliminate most of the risk, I wouldn't have posted about it or been rude though I would have just said no thanks or hit delete.

 

[inspiration100]

Interestingtake SpareDomains. Thanks for filling me in on that. I get so few emails about purchasing domains via my registered email that I respond to all of them. Sad part is, I proved to him that I'm not a time waster with my dp account, yet he was insistent that I was the domain moron. He ended up wasting my time instead lol.

 

[SpareDomains]

I wouldn't let it get to ya, you will encounter people that rub ya the wrong way in any industry just keep your focus on moving yourself ahead to where you wanna be and surround yourself with positive thinkers, There can be legitimate offers coming from any email so not saying not to respond just try to do some research before responding to anonymous people and use an escrow service if something does go good, the newer trend is for domainers to create a free gmail address to remain anonymous, the problem is if you send me an anonymous email and my research doesn't turn up anything I hit delete on it, if I do respond I'm gonna assume you are the ultimate end user and go higher in price and not lower on an anonymous bidder and now my price is 100k where if you actually came in from your business email or your isp email with your real name and number now maybe my price is 10k, this is 2009 and a lot of domainers these days wanna know who they are dealing with based on a bunch of scammers previous actions plus making a contact with an end user can turn into future sales as well, been doing that for 7-8 years.

 

[inspiration100]

+ rep on that one SpareDomains. You know your business well and I agree. I did one of my first Escrow transactions last month since I have been noticing alot more potential buyers that have little feedback. You summed up what every person needs to know before they begin a transaction.

Looks like you and me joined at the same time btw. That's pretty awesome.

 

[snowberry]

domain sales queries are normal. While you might anticipate that they say not for sale or a neighborhood beyond what you are prepared to pay, 'wasting time' is a nut job.

not for sale means not for sale, once is enough.

 

[dnpimping.com(closed)]

Remember a few things when dealing with users on forums. A number of them are contacted often by people who are simply either trying to scam them or waste there time. You can simply classify this as being someone who profiled you into those categories. Also when approaching another domainer for a name you have to be straight and to the point letting them know exactly how much you would pay for a domain. Normally when someone asks how much would you sell this domain for, in my experiences they aren't prepared to buy it. If you had simply messaged the guy saying I am interested in purchasing your domain name for $500 and can send you the payment via Escrow today, he would probably of taken your inquiry a little more seriously.

 

[mjnels]

being rude on the internet is fun sometimes. life would be boring otherwise..

 

[danBoT]

some domainers are just antisocial nerds that really do not know how to deal with people because they never see people so dont let it get to you

 

[inspiration100]

Remember a few things when dealing with users on forums. A number of them are contacted often by people who are simply either trying to scam them or waste there time. You can simply classify this as being someone who profiled you into those categories. Also when approaching another domainer for a name you have to be straight and to the point letting them know exactly how much you would pay for a domain. Normally when someone asks how much would you sell this domain for, in my experiences they aren't prepared to buy it. If you had simply messaged the guy saying I am interested in purchasing your domain name for $500 and can send you the payment via Escrow today, he would probably of taken your inquiry a little more seriously.

While what you say makes sense, I don't understand why someone must immediately make an offer? Why can someone not ask for a price range at least?

 

[kohashi]

You were given an opportunity to make an offer, you didn't, that's when you showed to me that you were not serious and were simply wasting my time; you took it personally, I really don't have a problem explaining things. If some people think I am being an asshole, so be it, I am not really into the selling to other domainers business. Just because someone has an account somewhere doesn't mean anything in terms of credibility. You for some reason think it's your god given right to get a price from me? I have no obligation to give you anything let alone respond, but I gave you one chance, and you failed with flying colors, end of story. You send back a snide remark about my loss to make yourself feel better, as if a sale was actually going to take place; it wasn't.

@sparedomains: yes, I filter offers in a very similar manner. @free email is 99% of the time spam/scam, the occasional end user hides behind it, but if they are serious they make an offer. They want the domain for a purpose, even rejected they will come back for it if it's critical for their business.

@namenut: clearly you didn't read the whole exchange. If you were in the business back then you knew .infos were given free by eNom for any that you owned the .com version of. Therefore putting a 5$ price tag on a bunch of names that were free isn't the same as suggesting the .com versions of names are in the same price range.

@dnpimping.com: now that's how you make an offer. Straight up I am so and so, and I can offer you this for your domain name. You make it reasonable, you will almost always get a decent response even if they aren't selling, they will keep that email saved in the future. The 'how much?' game can't really be played by someone who doesn't hold the domain. Unless seller is distressed, and distressed sellers aren't waiting for whois contacts, they go to auctions and forums to sell.

@mjnels: long time no see

@dbtbandit67: dirty speculator, yea evil me, buying domain names in a niche that I've developed dozens of sites in over the years. I've been making gaming sites for... 13 years? What a dirty speculator.

@athletec64: used to be?