question Domain got put on hold by Verisign without a single email

[PAKB]

Hello , I hand regged a domain EXXEE.com on 2019-10-21 at dynadot , Same domain was approved on SH as premium listing , I changed NS to SH back then but today when my domain got delisted at Squadhelp (Due to changed nameservers) , I contacted dynadot immediately and asked how my NS were changed without my permission.
Dynadot let me know that domain got on hold by verisign , I didn't got any email from registery or dynadot before about this ...What could be issue and how can i get domain back ?

Here is reply from dynadot

 

[wwwweb]

Wow! That's the most valuable name I have seen hit. Ouch!

Good catch!

It's been fixed, given the name, and it's under CSC management. The OP got a good hand reg, I don't think they want to spend the money to correct it though, but would be interesting on the procedure, past ownership can really mess things up at times.

 

[PAKB]

It's been fixed, given the name, and it's under CSC management. The OP got a good hand reg, I don't think they want to spend the money to correct it though, but would be interesting on the procedure, past ownership can really mess things up at times.

Yes I am not going to spend any $ on this but still looking for any appropriate answer of this from dynadot or verisign which are totally silent on the issue so far...

 

[Internet.Domains]

Yes I am not going to spend any $ on this but still looking for any appropriate answer of this from dynadot or verisign which are totally silent on the issue so far...

Your not going to get an answer. They know very little about this. The Avalanche network of malware is being investigated by the most secret agencies and the top computer scientists in the world. The stability of the globe is at stake.

 

[Rob Monster]

@Rob Monster

Sorry to tell you but it is the dreaded SHADOWSERVER sinkhole:

Domain Name: EXXEE.COM

Registry Domain ID: 2446197598_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN

Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.dynadot.com

Registrar URL: http://www.dynadot.com

Updated Date: 2019-12-06T20:55:42Z

Creation Date: 2019-10-21T18:45:55Z

Registry Expiry Date: 2020-10-21T18:45:55Z

Registrar: DYNADOT, LLC

Registrar IANA ID: 472

Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]

Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +16502620100

Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited

Name Server: SC-A.SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG

Name Server: SC-B.SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG

Name Server: SC-C.SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG

Name Server: SC-D.SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG


It is the kiss of death for a domain name unfortunately.

@PAKB - I will PM you my DOJ contact.

More than likely it got caught up in some malware sweep.

Dynadot should have been notified with a DOJ case number.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

@wwwweb
Thanks.
I rarely review WHOIS for .COMs
Probably, this is a reason why I didn't detect any SHADOWSERVER-victims.

 

[PAKB]

Sorry to tell you but it is the dreaded SHADOWSERVER sinkhole:

Domain Name: EXXEE.COM

Registry Domain ID: 2446197598_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN

Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.dynadot.com

Registrar URL: http://www.dynadot.com

Updated Date: 2019-12-06T20:55:42Z

Creation Date: 2019-10-21T18:45:55Z

Registry Expiry Date: 2020-10-21T18:45:55Z

Registrar: DYNADOT, LLC

Registrar IANA ID: 472

Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]

Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +16502620100

Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited

Name Server: SC-A.SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG

Name Server: SC-B.SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG

Name Server: SC-C.SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG

Name Server: SC-D.SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG


It is the kiss of death for a domain name unfortunately.

@PAKB - I will PM you my DOJ contact.

More than likely it got caught up in some malware sweep.

Dynadot should have been notified with a DOJ case number.

Got it, thanks a lot...

 

[Rob Monster]

Got it, thanks a lot...

I am going to guess your domain was included as an addendum to Civil Action 16-1780

If you contact them, they will give you some date, probably more than 1 year old, when the Sinkhole expires.

See related thread:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/domain-seized.1116091/page-3#post-7048725

 

[7363824]

That really sucks. I think your best bet is to get an attorney who knows what they are doing. Perhaps they can file something to get a new court order to release the domain?

 

[PAKB]

I am going to guess your domain was included as an addendum to Civil Action 16-1780

If you contact them, they will give you some date, probably more than 1 year old, when the Sinkhole expires.

See related thread:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/domain-seized.1116091/page-3#post-7048725

Got it , thanks... will update the thread once i got a reply from them , There was not a single clue on google about the domain previous history so i regged it ,
On the other hand i think there must be some free tool which can make sure domain history is clean etc

 

[wwwweb]

That really sucks. I think your best bet is to get an attorney who knows what they are doing. Perhaps they can file something to get a new court order to release the domain?

Spend 4 figures on a hand reg domain? better to try, and get dynadot to do something, and spend your money on a nice category defining name for 4 figures.

 

[PAKB]

Spend 4 figures on a hand reg domain? better to try, and get dynadot to do something, and spend your money on a nice category defining name for 4 figures.

Agree ...

 

[Rob Monster]

That really sucks. I think your best bet is to get an attorney who knows what they are doing. Perhaps they can file something to get a new court order to release the domain?

I would not waste the money of hiring counsel for this case. The legal spade work was already done:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/domain-seized.1116091/page-3#post-7048725

The domain will eventually be released. In the meantime, Shadowserver is the Sinkhole used for "national security" and other DOJ actions.

Within 1-2 years you will have a domain that works.

@Gube should produce a lookup tool to tell you if your domain is DOJ Sinkholed so that folks don't accidentally buy one of these.

We'll also add that to DNProtect.com since it could be claimable impairment event, i.e. where a domain becomes impaired to the point that it is unusable.

@bhartzer

 

[7363824]

Spend 4 figures on a hand reg domain? better to try, and get dynadot to do something, and spend your money on a nice category defining name for 4 figures.

Being under a court order the only option I know of would be to get the court order overturned. Dynadot and verisign hands are tied. They cant go against a court order, not without significant legal risk.

 

[Internet.Domains]

If you contact them, they will give you some date, probably more than 1 year old, when the Sinkhole expires.

Do you know if any domains have been returned after being sinkholed by ShadowServer?

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

OP, HugeDomains was the last owner prior you.
According to Archive.org

 

[wwwweb]

AlarmNetworking.com is another one that is one that still has not.

 

[7363824]

I would not waste the money of hiring counsel for this case...The domain will eventually be released. In the meantime, Shadowserver is the Sinkhole used for "national security" and other DOJ actions.

Within 1-2 years you will have a domain that works...

That is different if it will self release. I was assuming it would not and a new court order would be the only option...

Still a horrible way for the DOJ to deal with such issues. They should just have the court order verisign to delete the name, or transfer it to government control. Seems like someone didnt consider the unintended consequences of this process.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Seems like someone didnt consider the unintended consequences of this process.

The process is not intended to save a domain and give clarity. The process is to save the stability of the globe by mitigating malware that can cripple all societies.

 

[7363824]

The process is not intended to save a domain and give clarity. The process is to save the stability of the globe by mitigating malware that can cripple all societies.

And deleting the domain or transferring it to the government accomplishes that without allowing an unrelated person such as the OP to later obtain the domain which is now effectively unusable. Or at least have the registry mark the name as reserved so no new unsuspecting user buys it.

 

[DN Universal]

I would not waste the money of hiring counsel for this case. The legal spade work was already done:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/domain-seized.1116091/page-3#post-7048725

The domain will eventually be released. In the meantime, Shadowserver is the Sinkhole used for "national security" and other DOJ actions.

Within 1-2 years you will have a domain that works.

@Gube should produce a lookup tool to tell you if your domain is DOJ Sinkholed so that folks don't accidentally buy one of these.

We'll also add that to DNProtect.com since it could be claimable impairment event, i.e. where a domain becomes impaired to the point that it is unusable.

@bhartzer

So sinkhole names have a time frame when they are released and usable? What if there was a sinkhole name that expired could it be purchased or transferred to an unsuspecting buyer?