warning Does Rami Steitieh A/K/A steitieh Shill? You Decide.

[N-A]

In March of 2016 @steitieh was found guilty of shill bidding on NamePros with @tha-she. While these two members are no longer permitted to conduct business with each other here, @steitieh is still able to participate in the marketplace and carries an undeserving PRO badge.

Recently, Rami was accused of shill bidding again. However, the evidence is circumstantial, at best, but it's admitted by him that he had close personal acquaintances bid on his auctions – something that we all know that most other marketplaces would never tolerate.

Beware: if you choose to bid on one of @steitieh 's auctions, know that someone else may be purposefully bidding you up.

 

[ZapNano]

I'll be blunt. f*ck you for even implying I'm a shill. I'll show, with Rami's permission, all of our freaking PM's of me WANTING to buy domains like pictured.net but it quickly fell out of my budget. Go screw yourself for even making the implication. I'm out.

Edit: Leave out all the VERIFIABLE purchases I made from him too! You're such a scientist!

Edit 2: I BOUGHT Authoring.net, which you linked, sir. #suchashill

Hon, excuse your language i don't think you were accused.

 

[CursedToast]

Hon, excuse your language i don't think you were accused.

Yes, excuse my language please, I am very upset right now. I've got PayPal transactions and bank statements to back I paid Rami for the domains I bought from him. And he DID strongly imply I'm a shill.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

They have a PRO badge, they should get a CON badge

 

[DNHIT.COM]

Good Job by #David a Pro can be complaint against Pro ! Pro means professional but these activities are not showing that #Rami is Professional .

 

[000]

Since we're investigating publicly.....

@Skyvisum is another member with an odd fascination with Rami's auctions.... see for yourself:

https://www.namepros.com/search/824505/

He even got involved in a bidding war with DNBank in the infamous pictured.net auction, which bumped the price from $110 to $600..... ! What are the odds of that?
https://www.namepros.com/threads/pictured-net.976465/page-2#post-5778212

Most recently, Skyvisum won Rami's auction for whatbig.com. Feedback was exchanged by both parties, despite the whois still showing rami's name 5 days later.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/whatbig-com-final-bump-few-hours-to-close.975320/#post-5773740

Skyvisum's recent feedback for Rami follows a familiar style as well:

Another great deal and buy from the most Guaranteed Seller on here.Highly recommended A++++

Super seller with a good heart.Transaction completed in seconds..Highly recommended.AAAAAAAAA++++++

 

[N-A]

that being said, if the mod wishes to investigate anything, here below is my purchase. I am always glad to help penalizing those who deserve it, as well as to ensure innocents are left alone. I am sure David here is striving for same things in the end.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/browsing-info.904320/

@Saeid Nejati is the first bidder in that auction. I would consider him a shill, and any bid placed after his, void.

 

[ZapNano]

Yes, excuse my language please, I am very upset right now. I've got PayPal transactions and bank statements to back I paid Rami for the domains I bought from him. And he DID strongly imply I'm a shill.

Well, then you don't have to worry bout nothing. Again, I'm telling you, you are not part of this mean issue. So don't get yourself worn out; like Donald Trump. You will grow gray hair at young age.

 

[N-A]

Edit: Leave out all the VERIFIABLE purchases I made from him too! You're such a scientist!

The problem with @steitieh's shills is that sometimes, they do win, and do receive the domain. However, we cannot confirm whether money changed hands, or if the domain is just being held. People need to come to their own conclusions... especially after seeing 5 cases where @tha-she didn't receive the domain, but there being several cases where she had.

 

[CursedToast]

The problem with @steitieh's shills is that sometimes, they do win, and do receive the domain. However, we cannot confirm whether money changed hands, or if the domain is just being held. People need to come to their own conclusions... especially after seeing 5 cases where @tha-she didn't receive the domain, but there being several cases where she had.

http://l.eaf.io/3vmE0JTa.png
http://l.eaf.io/MS75Utii.png
http://l.eaf.io/eiJAsmGM.png

$46 was for Authoring.net and @Eric Lyon was even in on the convo.
One was for Grater.net ($29.99) and the other was for Spawned.net

Satisfied?

 

[000]

Let's not forget how easy it is to fabricate "evidence" for something like this. A little photoshop can go a long way. Speaking generically of course...

 

[N-A]

http://l.eaf.io/3vmE0JTa.png
http://l.eaf.io/MS75Utii.png
http://l.eaf.io/eiJAsmGM.png

Thanks. That explains your purchases, but not your bidding intentions on pictured.net and others. Could it be perhaps that you were participating in a larger shill ring? I don't know. I'm not the judge here. It's just all very suspicious that you're bidding up your mentor's domain names.

 

[CursedToast]

Thanks. That explains your purchases, but not your bidding intentions on pictured.net and others. Could it be perhaps that you were participating in a larger shill ring? I don't know. I'm not the judge here. It's just all very suspicious that you're bidding up your mentor's domain names.

I wanted pictured.net but I stopped bidding when it got crazy high. Do you want invites to my PMs for crying out loud????

 

[N-A]

I wanted pictured.net but I stopped bidding when it got crazy high. Do you want invites to my PMs for crying out loud????

I'm good. I'm not accusing you.

Just putting the information out there and trying to determine who else is involved.

 

[ZapNano]

Thanks. That explains your purchases, but not your bidding intentions on pictured.net and others. Could it be perhaps that you were participating in a larger shill ring? I don't know. I'm not the judge here. It's just all very suspicious that you're bidding up your mentor's domain names.

Understand the he is a new member and perhaps he is new in domaining business?

 

[CursedToast]

Understand the he is a new member and perhaps he is new in domaining business?

I am. And to whoever said photoshop... photoshop that in 1 minute and get back to me. Hell, I'll even invite you to a livestream of my paypal if you're going to try to tarnish my name here. Or am I streaming a video edit at that point? Geez, folks. I'm sorry i even said anything in this thread.

Edit: It was brought to my attention there's even more than meets the eye with this situation. So I understand the accusations here, by lighten up, you guys are making accusations towards the innocent.

 

[ZapNano]

NamePro doesn't need to hire detectives. We have plenties here. NamePro save your money.

 

[ksusha64]

The new members are usually Rami's victims unless they know him for 13 years. We found by pure chance yesterday @DNBank.com and @steitieh used same hosting server since 2011. They admitted being friends since 2003 and promised to let people take all their bids back.
@tha-she admitted on bidding on 100 of @steitieh auctions, winning at least 5 and not paying for any of them. They created fake reviews to cover it up. Their excuse was @tha-she was confused at the time. @tha-she was bidding on his 10 auctions at the same time with INSANE $400 to $600 bids, similar to what @DNBank.com did. So Their story is he forgave her and allowed her not to pay, but she continued to bid on his 10 auctions at the same time. This is 100% proof of shill bidding. Please someone explain to me how this is not 100% proof?

 

[ZapNano]

I am. And to whoever said photoshop... photoshop that in 1 minute and get back to me. Hell, I'll even invite you to a livestream of my paypal if you're going to try to tarnish my name here. Or am I streaming a video edit at that point? Geez, folks. I'm sorry i even said anything in this thread.

Edit: It was brought to my attention there's even more than meets the eye with this situation. So I understand the accusations here, by lighten up, you guys are making accusations towards the innocent.

I don't think you are part.

 

[N-A]

This is 100% proof of shill bidding. Please someone explain to me how this is not 100% proof?

It'll probably be found to not be 100% proof. Things appear different to different people; much like my interpretation of the below sentence, and Eric's intended meaning with an explanation. However, this thread is out there... and it's going strong... with pretty damning proof in my opinion.

People will now be able to decide on their own, and intervention of staff going forward (if there will be any) may not likely be necessary.

Since you two were unable to provide adequate evidence that shill bidding did not take place between the two of you, the rules below have been placed on your accounts and MUST be adhered to for all transactions you partake in on NamePros with anyone. There will be no exceptions to these rules.

 

[trap3]

Is it actually possible that Rami just has a lot of followers and those guys bid on a lot of his auctions ?
That would explain some crazy bidding wars between rivals and why you see the same people bidding over and over !

Additionally maybe they think/know Rami is an easy touch, so when they cant afford or want to pay for their indulgence they simply pull out of the deal.

I know perhaps improbable, but isnt it possible ?