discuss Does .ie have the luck of the .Irish

[Reddstagg]

Good evening,

There appears to be some movement in the sales of .ie domain names. There is only a small increase in recent sales compared to other country code domain names but I'm wondering whether there is any potential in the future and whether it is likely that the criteria to register .ie will be relaxed even further or abolished completely.

At the moment, you need to prove some link to Ireland before you are able to register a .ie domain name and this must either be by residence or a direct link through a business with ties to the country.

I think that there will be a complete relaxation of the registration requirements as those who are in control realize the enormous world wide potential for this little island's ccTLD.

I live in Ireland and I've recently taken the plunge with a few of my own domain names and I'd welcome any views or comments in general or more specifically about my domain names. Here's my list so far:

www. 3D-Mov.ie
www. 3DMov.ie
www. Blogg.ie
www. Dink.ie
www. Dixx.ie
www. Dork.ie
www. Dot-Com.ie
www. Emoj.ie
www. Frisb.ie
www. Frogg.ie
www. GoVegg.ie
www. Howd.ie
www. KiloCalor.ie
www. Kook.ie
www. Mississipp.ie
www. Wonk.ie
www. Yabb.ie

 

[jmcc]

There's a site run by Blacknight that might be useful. It lists the drops from .IE ccTLD:

www.dropped.ie

Regards...jmcc

 

[nametrekker]

i own about 25 .ie domains.
2 of my .ie domains (betting)were acquired about a year ago by a large betting company. i had planned to build apps, but the offer was too sweet.

i love the .ie registry- very efficient

 

[Reddstagg]

Hello there friend....i thought you lived around York, but now that I know you're in Ireland it all makes sense.....the luck of the Irish and all

I think you met a pretty sharp guy in @Daniel Moran, and maybe you two can add a lot to our discussions here on NP.....it's a damn good thing they don't call this GuinnessVirus vs. CoronaVirus.

Looks like you have some pretty creative names there with .ie. Curious, the fact that I've had a few brew in Dublin and Waterford and i wear a cap that says "It's a Lovely Day for a Guinness", does that qualify me to buy a .ie domain in Ireland? I've even kissed the GuinnessStone for good luck, or was that the BlarneyStone Seriously, i think i have a pretty good .ie name idea I'll partner with if either you or Daniel are interested. Thanks Redd!



Seriously,

Thanks again,

I was born in England but I have green roots. I consider them both as home and I could still play soccer for either country if called upon to do so, but I may be a bit too old for a debut lol.

Plus, I can't find my boots.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Good evening,

There appears to be some movement in the sales of .ie domain names. There is only a small increase in recent sales compared to other country code domain names but I'm wondering whether there is any potential in the future and whether it is likely that the criteria to register .ie will be relaxed even further or abolished completely.

At the moment, you need to prove some link to Ireland before you are able to register a .ie domain name and this must either be by residence or a direct link through a business with ties to the country.

I think that there will be a complete relaxation of the registration requirements as those who are in control realize the enormous world wide potential for this little island's ccTLD.

I live in Ireland and I've recently taken the plunge with a few of my own domain names and I'd welcome any views or comments in general or more specifically about my domain names. Here's my list so far:

www. 3D-Mov.ie
www. 3DMov.ie
www. Blogg.ie
www. Dink.ie
www. Dixx.ie
www. Dork.ie
www. Dot-Com.ie
www. Emoj.ie
www. Frisb.ie
www. Frogg.ie
www. GoVegg.ie
www. Howd.ie
www. KiloCalor.ie
www. Kook.ie
www. Mississipp.ie
www. Wonk.ie
www. Yabb.ie

Hello there friend....i thought you lived around York, but now that I know you're in Ireland it all makes sense.....the luck of the Irish and all

I think you met a pretty sharp guy in @Daniel Moran, and maybe you two can add a lot to our discussions here on NP.....it's a damn good thing they don't call this GuinnessVirus vs. CoronaVirus.

Looks like you have some pretty creative names there with .ie. Curious, the fact that I've had a few brew in Dublin and Waterford and i wear a cap that says "It's a Lovely Day for a Guinness", does that qualify me to buy a .ie domain in Ireland? I've even kissed the GuinnessStone for good luck, or was that the BlarneyStone Seriously, i think i have a pretty good .ie name idea I'll partner with if either you or Daniel are interested. Thanks Redd!



Seriously,

 

[jmcc]

Domain hack domains in .IE haven't done that well but that could be due to the registration restrictions and the fact that it only became possible to sell them a few years ago.

Regards...jmcc

 

[jmcc]

i own about 25 .ie domains.
2 of my .ie domains (betting)were acquired about a year ago by a large betting company. i had planned to build apps, but the offer was too sweet.

i love the .ie registry- very efficient

Betting is big business in Ireland. It is more gambling, horse racing and greyhound racing than other forms. Have seen a lot of single keyword type .IE domain names regged and dropped over the years. Most of them seemed to be a shotgun type approach to PPC parking rather than sales.

I think that IEDR (the registry) publishes geographical breakdowns (counties, countries etc) for registrations in its reports. As a registry, it has improved massively since the 1990s. The one thing that has limited domaining is the renewal cost of domain names. Normally it is around $30. There are some .IE registrars who discount heavily for the first year in order to get registrations. It is best to use an in-country registrar as I think that the old rule about the nameservers having to be operational and answering for the domain name before it goes live still applies. The domain name market in Ireland is probably around 500K with at least 455K of those on Irish hosters. Most of those domain names would be .IE followed by .COM but the .UK ccTLD accounts for about 33K registrations (The UK is a natural market and many Irish businesses also register their .co.uk if it is available. There's also the issue of Northern Ireland registrants having both .IE and .UK versions of their domain names.) Strangely, the .EU ccTLD is a lot less popular than the 51K registrations that Eurid claims are Irish registered (many of those would have been reflagged UK registrations hanging on to their .EU domain names). While .COM is still getting registrations, the .IE is vastly outperforming it and new websites targeting an Irish audience generally have a .IE domain name.

Regards...jmcc

 

[jmcc]

I have 3 customers who are Irish and they want their .ie and .com domains with the .ie redirecting to .com

From search engine development work I did awhile ago, approximately 13K .IE websites redirected to .COM and approximately 2K to .UK websites. Basically this kind of redirect is common with the registrants having older .COM websites or with non-Irish businesses operating in the Irish market.

Regards...jmcc

 

[GoKaizen]

@jmcc

 

[Daniel Moran]

Good evening,

There appears to be some movement in the sales of .ie domain names. There is only a small increase in recent sales compared to other country code domain names but I'm wondering whether there is any potential in the future and whether it is likely that the criteria to register .ie will be relaxed even further or abolished completely.

At the moment, you need to prove some link to Ireland before you are able to register a .ie domain name and this must either be by residence or a direct link through a business with ties to the country.

I think that there will be a complete relaxation of the registration requirements as those who are in control realize the enormous world wide potential for this little island's ccTLD.

I live in Ireland and I've recently taken the plunge with a few of my own domain names and I'd welcome any views or comments in general or more specifically about my domain names. Here's my list so far:

www. 3D-Mov.ie
www. 3DMov.ie
www. Blogg.ie
www. Dink.ie
www. Dixx.ie
www. Dork.ie
www. Dot-Com.ie
www. Emoj.ie
www. Frisb.ie
www. Frogg.ie
www. GoVegg.ie
www. Howd.ie
www. KiloCalor.ie
www. Kook.ie
www. Mississipp.ie
www. Wonk.ie
www. Yabb.ie

Hey - Great idea for a thread.
My own view is that .ie domains will slowly continue to rise in value, especially around generic/dictionary words and I can well foresee the IEDR relaxing requirements in this next few years.

For example - I registered the following domains only recently and they are getting a small but of traffic, one received an offer -
54.ie, Lick.ie, Herself.ie, Himself.ie, Extraordinary.ie, Newsroom.ie, Debate.ie, Inferno.ie

Will defo watch this thread!

 

[Reddstagg]

Just a few more to add to my portfolio:

www. Moxx.ie
www. Fogg.ie
www. GoBet.ie
www. Go-Bet.ie
www. BigBet.ie
www. Big-Bet.ie
www. BetBig.ie
www. Bet-Big.ie

A massive shout out to @Rhinnnn who tipped me off about the betting domains. A true Dot.Legend

Regards,

Reddstagg

 

[jmcc]

I got into dot IE last year in the hopes of post-brexit business growth, and currently have about 140 dot IEs. Regged at discounted 1st year pricing.

There was a slight blip in the Irish market with Brexit but it was Northern Ireland and UK companies and businesses holding on to their .EU domain names. The other side was some Irish businesses registering their .uk variant as many of them already had their .co.uk domain names. After .IE, the largest ccTLD in the Irish market is the .UK with around 33K on Irish hosters. The .EU ccTLD is a brand protection registration rather than an active registration and its web usage in the Irish market is on a par with that of .BIZ gTLD. The .BIZ and .INFO gTLDs are effectively on brand protection life support in the market and the main activity is on .IE and .COM. Even the .IRISH gTLD (many of them are Irish hosted) hasn't taken off. It had a slight chance but it needed a lot of marketing. Donuts took it over but price-wise and recognition-wise it can't compete with either .COM or .IE. There is some use in the gTLD and it is the largest new gTLD in the Irish market but there are around 1K or so on Irish hosters.

The reason that many domainers with gTLD-only experience lose money on ccTLDs is because once a ccTLD becomes dominant in the market, people there forget the extension and geographical keywords become important. Covid has probably affected the market as people have other priorities and many of the small businesses that might have been prospects are now in lockdown (effectively closed) from midnight tonight. Only a limited set of shops and businesses will be open from tomorrow onwards.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Samer]

reminds me of .co .com mix ups
people will mix up .io with .ie

I didnt know there was .ir until read this thread.

Samer

 

[jmcc]

reminds me of .co .com mix ups
people will mix up .io with .ie

didnt know there was .ir until i read this thread

The .IR is the Iranian ccTLD. It has a relatively good number of registrations for a Middle Eastern one.

I think that .IE might have more registrations than .IO.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Reddstagg]

Hello there friend....i thought you lived around York, but now that I know you're in Ireland it all makes sense.....the luck of the Irish and all

I think you met a pretty sharp guy in @Daniel Moran, and maybe you two can add a lot to our discussions here on NP.....it's a damn good thing they don't call this GuinnessVirus vs. CoronaVirus.

Looks like you have some pretty creative names there with .ie. Curious, the fact that I've had a few brew in Dublin and Waterford and i wear a cap that says "It's a Lovely Day for a Guinness", does that qualify me to buy a .ie domain in Ireland? I've even kissed the GuinnessStone for good luck, or was that the BlarneyStone Seriously, i think i have a pretty good .ie name idea I'll partner with if either you or Daniel are interested. Thanks Redd!



Seriously,

Good morning,

Unfortunately, you don't qualify unless you have green blood coursing through you veins. I've just returned home from Spain so I am on lock down for 14 days and luckily I can still register domain names from home.

I'd be more than happy to steal your great ideas and keep all the money...lol.

Don't want to get too carried away though as they tend not to sell for large amounts. I think my strategy will be to hold the .ie registrations for a while and wait for the rest of the world to catch up.

I'm sure you will think of something...you normally do.

Thanks again for your words of wisdom.

Regards,

Reddstagg

 

[Daniel Moran]

Good evening,

There appears to be some movement in the sales of .ie domain names. There is only a small increase in recent sales compared to other country code domain names but I'm wondering whether there is any potential in the future and whether it is likely that the criteria to register .ie will be relaxed even further or abolished completely.

At the moment, you need to prove some link to Ireland before you are able to register a .ie domain name and this must either be by residence or a direct link through a business with ties to the country.

I think that there will be a complete relaxation of the registration requirements as those who are in control realize the enormous world wide potential for this little island's ccTLD.

I live in Ireland and I've recently taken the plunge with a few of my own domain names and I'd welcome any views or comments in general or more specifically about my domain names. Here's my list so far:

www. 3D-Mov.ie
www. 3DMov.ie
www. Blogg.ie
www. Dink.ie
www. Dixx.ie
www. Dork.ie
www. Dot-Com.ie
www. Emoj.ie
www. Frisb.ie
www. Frogg.ie
www. GoVegg.ie
www. Howd.ie
www. KiloCalor.ie
www. Kook.ie
www. Mississipp.ie
www. Wonk.ie
www. Yabb.ie

Hey - Hope all is well ! I saw you started this thread. Great I

There's a site run by Blacknight that might be useful. It lists the drops from .IE ccTLD:

www.dropped.ie

Regards...jmcc

I have used this a few times!

 

[Reddstagg]

Hey - Hope all is well ! I saw you started this thread. Great I

I have used this a few times!

Good morning,

Thanks for your kind words.

Just spreading my wings and continuing to think outside of the dot.box.

Many of my .ie names are technically domain name hacks as the words are formed each side of the dot, but if I could guess which type of domain name would sell best I would be veryrich.ie

Trying to cover as many bases as possible and you never know what the future may bring.

I'll probably get told off again as they are not dot.coms but I have thick skin and I shall weather the storm...again lol.

Still enjoying my journey so everything is good in the hood.

Have a good day.

Regards,

Reddstagg

 

[Rhinnnn]

Good evening,

There appears to be some movement in the sales of .ie domain names. There is only a small increase in recent sales compared to other country code domain names but I'm wondering whether there is any potential in the future and whether it is likely that the criteria to register .ie will be relaxed even further or abolished completely.

At the moment, you need to prove some link to Ireland before you are able to register a .ie domain name and this must either be by residence or a direct link through a business with ties to the country.

I think that there will be a complete relaxation of the registration requirements as those who are in control realize the enormous world wide potential for this little island's ccTLD.

I live in Ireland and I've recently taken the plunge with a few of my own domain names and I'd welcome any views or comments in general or more specifically about my domain names. Here's my list so far:

www. 3D-Mov.ie
www. 3DMov.ie
www. Blogg.ie
www. Dink.ie
www. Dixx.ie
www. Dork.ie
www. Dot-Com.ie
www. Emoj.ie
www. Frisb.ie
www. Frogg.ie
www. GoVegg.ie
www. Howd.ie
www. KiloCalor.ie
www. Kook.ie
www. Mississipp.ie
www. Wonk.ie
www. Yabb.ie

Some of the domains you've registered are cool, at least from a visual point of view.

I was curious to see what's available in terms of .ie names and discovered a few short names that may be valuable. Since I'm not from Ireland I'll send you a PM with them.

 

[BrandEntrance.com]

Have had many .ie domains. Account at Blacknight. Don't see a lot happening there. Like Sweden and .se domains. Slow.

 

[Reddstagg]

Not exactly sure there is a market for dot IE hacks in Ireland itself. Regular domains don't sell quick (looks the Irish don't like parting with their money ) and the early birds seem to have caught many of the juicy worms.

I got into dot IE last year in the hopes of post-brexit business growth, and currently have about 140 dot IEs. Regged at discounted 1st year pricing.

I only just started outbounds when Corona came in and had to stop. Had a few offers but too low. I gotta sell at least one to cover 2nd year renewals @ some €30 per name (vat Inc). I'll prolly stop at 150 or 200 dot IEs.

I tend Coronavirus.ie in my spare time!

If anyone wants to rent a dot IE, do let me know!

Nice to meet the you @Reddstagg

Nice to meet you too Bulk,

I'm on self-isolation, now day 9 as I was in Spain between 8-15th March.

It makes me think about how we will change collectively moving forward. Our lives and our attitudes will change.

As people, we travel but we never see. How can something that started in a small place in China affect me in a small place in Ireland.

I started domain investing as a way to try and start a business from home just using broadband and my imagination and life skills.

Phase one complete. Buy or register domain names. Phase two is sell said domain names.

Phase one was easy. Phase two not so easy.

I'm hoping a few things change in the future and I might just get lucky.

Not much demand so far but I can see it changing in the future.

Here's wishing us all good health and good luck for the future.

Regards,

Reddstagg

 

[Daniel Moran]

Sold Inferno.ie for 250eur. Handregged for 4.99.
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FYI - Dealing with a transfer issue before its complete, buyer is Irish so should be all good

 

[jmcc]

Registrations up 26% for first half of 2020 compared to first half of 2021. Some of it is down to Covid and businesses going online. Ireland was in lockdown for a few months. The numbers of new registrations are impressive.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0730/1156412-new-ie-registrations-surge-in-q2-amid-covid-19/

Regards...jmcc

 

[jmcc]

Yeah I think you are right. I had previously toyed with the notion of setting up a dedicated .ie / .irish marketplace.

Blacknight runs dropped.ie and has been running it for years now. The .IRISH is heavily concentrated on Irish hosters but it is only 2,973 doms to about 293K doms (.IE).

I did some research and didnt much demand. Only domainers were interested but i think you need end user demand to make it worth while. Maybe in the future!

The end user demand is there but the dynamics of a ccTLD market are very different to that of a gTLD like .COM. With a ccTLD market, the extension (.IE etc) becomes psychologically invisible to users in that every new site is expected to have a .IE domain name. Apart from the obvious high value keywords, geographical identifiers/keywords are important. I know the pubs haven't really reopened but think of it this way. Where is your local? You probably won't add Ireland or even the city/town name to the location because it is local. That's one of the big selling points of .IE -- it really is local in a way that .COM is not.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Reddstagg]

Have had many .ie domains. Account at Blacknight. Don't see a lot happening there. Like Sweden and .se domains. Slow.

One of the other domain registrars has both .ie and .com available for a fiver so not too much tied up at present. Will give them all a year and if no action will decide then if any can drop.

We never really know what the next big thing will be and I'm taking a chance but I think I have some ok brand-able names so will hold and see.

I can always buy dot.coms if everything else fails...lol!!!

 

[Daniel Moran]

www. Mous.ie
www. Maus.ie

Hey - Interesting regs. Have you ever checked if there is a demand for .ie domain hacks or are you just hoping there will be in the future? You are prob looking 20+ euro for renewal per domain?