Do you think appraising here hurts sales?

[cjbay]

Theres people who purchase domain names out there who might do a little research on the web before they decided to buy a name. I recently sold a name that others on here said was below regfee. I had 2 bidders bidding on it for about $190 even though I started the auction at about 9.00. I have another one on auction now for about $150 that was also on my "worthless" list. Now if one of those people were to do a search on google for that exact term with no spaces, they would see my post on namepros where people were ridiculing that specific domain name and saying it was worthless, and that buyer might think twice about it then if they are a reseller rather then an end user. Just a thought of mine and a warning to others. I dont think its so great to have names appraised on here. Not only because what they appraised it at was way off, but also because it might hurt a future sale. I tried to delete the content of my post with all my names but for some reason it all shows up in google results still if I search for the exact terms.

 

[GeoOwners]

YEP...this is a good example of not asking about values...usually the peeps answering you dont have a clue anyway...

you can also disguise the word by using (c0m) istead of .com in the actual post.


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[sashas]

this is the reason why many domainers don't type in the exact name, but something like DomainName Dot Com or DomainName(.)com

yes, it can hurt sales

 

[Domagon]

If one can convey to others the value of what they are selling, then there's no problem...

Transparancy is generally a good thing.

Also, including the entire domain name can potentially help generate interest via search engines and forum search in a domain that some wouldn't have seen / considered otherwise.

Ron

 

[Krossat]

Yup i guess it does effect the sale a bit.
Thats the reason appraisals should be done with data and stats to back it up.
I alwasy felt there should be a set of parameters to be mentioned by the appraiser while giving a fair idea.
Something like:

Length
Backlinks
Google
OVT
Generics
Previous similar sales etc

and therefore estimating the sales price. Most of us i reckon look at the sales trends of similar domains to predict the overall worth of a domain.

 

[DotCom9]

Nice point.. I believe yes, appraisals here may hurt the value of the name. Thx for bringing it up. I had two names which were told regfee here sold for $300 and $360. But it's always good to know what other people think about your name. So maybe, when asking for an appraisal we can put something as "dot com" instead of .com

Repped you.

 

[dgridley]

Any appraisal will be subjective anyway.. no one can accurately fortell what the "average" domain might bring with any accuracy.. even premium domains would be only an educated guess. Any domain, like anything you might have for sale, could go for more or less than you expect. Ask any auctioneer and he'll tell you the same thing.

 

[Jammer]

That's exactly why I haven't posted a name for appraisal here in over three years.

 

[theinvestor]

Funny thing is...most people here value a domain MORE than anywhere else. Because they think appraising higher will get you good reputation.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Uv.tv

I asked to have Uv.tv appraised here a while back. Usually when no one responds to your request, they are trying to tell you nicely, that they don't think much of your domain name. It is nicer than writing up how back you domain is. My response to Uv.tv was 55 views , 0 responses for an appraisal. Overall, having it on auction (starting at $600), for sale for $2000, and accepting offers, it was over 300 views, 0 responses. :td: Terrible name, you would think. But then..... SOLD for $4,355 on www.Sedo.com.

A domain is worth what someone will pay for it. Not all domain names are bought by domainers, or people who know all about domain names. They are an end-user who need the name. (Ha! I think UV.tv was bought by another domainer)
We domainers are tough, and ruthless. We want deals, at bargain prices. Have you ever looked in the marketplace? People want the very best for next to nothing. Doesn't mean they are bad, just good businessman. So.... maybe if we don't appraise a domain.... the guy will get rid of it cheap!!!! :yell:

Frank

 

[RezaS]

What you people need to understand is that people ask for a appraisal in this folder in order to get an idea of how much people value their domain names.

For example when I appraise a domain name here I am not saying the owner will sell the domain for the price I appraised but I give my opinion about what I think the domain is worth.

And I think only rooky domainers would get influenced by ones appraisal...

 

[cjbay]

Thanks for all the input everybody.

 

[Mark]

Moved to "Discussion" Section - Please only post Domains for appraisal in the Appraisal section.

Do I think Appraisals can hurt your sale ? Inexperienced people to this industry might try to use a forum appraisal to get the sales price down ... But I would never sell for less than I REALLY wanted anyways. It's all just "opinions".
I highly doubt you'll ever find any "Serious" Human or Scripted appraisals that will match in the same range anyways - Everyone appraising doesn't necessarily have expertise in every category or for every keyword/niche.


Someone who has a Real Estate background will know more about a real estate type domain ... Though they may not know anything about cars ... Many forum appraisers may not have any expertise or experience other than "Life" itself - It's just a toss up IMO ~

Do your own research and go with your Gut IMO -

 

[sashas]

completely agree with Mark.

I personally know nothing about most of the ccTLDs and the newer TLDs like .mobi and .tv. I cannot appraise names in these extensions and am liable to give wrong values.

So I might shoot down the hopes of a newbie with a bad appraisal, or I might raise them, not even knowing so.

IMO, take appraisals only at face value. Do your own research, see past sales of similar domains, read read read about domain names and you can figure out a value. I can today say that I can hazard a decent guess at .com, .net, .org and .info values.

But at the same time, keep in mind that if 10 people appraise your name as reg fee, then it probably is. And if 10 people appraised it as 10k, it would be foolish to assume you can get 20k for it in the reseller market.

And of course, when selling to end users, the price only depends on the end users's pockets and your negotiation skills.

 

[gazzip]

I think it can if you're aiming for end user sales, it surprising how well namepros appraisal threads get indexed.

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[Krossat]

Well this is a domainers market, so appraisals ARE going to be much lesser than the end user (who might be searching on google, as gazzip suggested).
For the same, I suggest not typing in ur domain name the way it is.
You can hide ti by a varity of ways, let say for example MySoftware.com You can mention it like the following:

MYSOFTWARE (.) COM
M.Y.S.O.F.T.W.A.R.E com (Name is minus the dots)

This way ur absolute name could never be searched. Also after a sale, i recommend removing th eprices from the thread to encourage better consecutive sales of the same domain.

 

[gazzip]

This way ur absolute name could never be searched. .

It definetly helps but as soon as someone else in the thread says something like " I think yourdomain.com is pretty good and worth xxx"


....then it will still get indexed It does happen, there are no guarentees.


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[Krossat]

well u can only try
Generally if you dont type in the full name, nobody does the same. It is known that the person does not wish to have the name indexed. Even if it does happen once a while, you can pm the poster to remove the name. If the domain is that important you gotta make efforts to protect its value!

 

[gazzip]

Here's an interesting spin on domains been found in Google :hehe:

http://www.namepros.com/domain-appraisals/388553-search-engine-optimization-net.html


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[cache]

if you notice that most experienced domainers here don't ask for appraisal.
It does hurt