Do you ever find domaining disheartening?

[smashfactory]

i spend alot of time reading threads in different forums, reading blogs and news sites, and interacting with different people. the goal: to try and learn as much as possible to be a better domainer.

what happens though is that it can get quite depressing. i am happy with "domaining" itself- great fun and i find it a fantastic challenge, and i have met some incredible people- its just everything else.

its like everyone is on their own planet, and no one is running the universe.

 

[Ronald Regging]

its like everyone is on their own planet, and no one is running the universe.

I agree with this one. I've made a lot of friends on NP and everyone is always willing to offer advice on the forums... BUT... I'm lacking that close network of friends who are in constant communication and always looking out for names for each other and collaborating on projects and ideas. It's hard to explain, but it's something I'm completely missing, which I've always found in other activities/endeavors I've participated in.

 

[Spade]

Domaining has its ups and downs, that for sure. It does get frustrating when a strategy that had been working, begins to show results less and less. I typically will change up my acquisition strategy about every 3-4 months as the market changes, or others catch onto what im doing. Thats when it gets frustrating.

Although I have been a little unhappy with NameJet in regards to a domain name I am currently in auction for. The way they do business unlike snap generates more bidders, but at the same time creates a breed of "If you want it, I want it" type domainers. Very frustrating.

Justin

 

[geb9696]

I agree with this one. I've made a lot of friends on NP and everyone is always willing to offer advice on the forums... BUT... I'm lacking that close network of friends who are in constant communication and always looking out for names for each other and collaborating on projects and ideas. It's hard to explain, but it's something I'm completely missing, which I've always found in other activities/endeavors I've participated in.

I would imagine that getting together a few very talented domainers would pay dividends on ROI in this industry. Everyone always talks about the main barriers are startup capital and the time it takes to do research. By pooling resources I think it would greatly improve the ROI that the domainers would see. Along with the simple fact that the group would have more money it would also protect against making bad purchases. While 1 person may get excited and make a bad decision it is unlikely that 3 or 4 experianced domainers are going to make huge mistakes. To a great degree a group would be very benficial when trying to get into the top parking companies because of the ability to combine the portfolio.

 

[KingDon]

It gets depressing when you know how to sift out some nice names, but you lack the programming skills to do it. I have a nice formula, just able to bake one cookie at a time.

Yes Justin, it sucks spending all that time cutting a path through the jungle only to turn around to see some guy eating an ice cream sandwich; thank you doesn't cut it.

 

[smashfactory]

not the selling aspect of it- domains are like anything else with its peaks and valleys- i am ok there, it is part of the business-

its everything connected with domaining- it is almost surreal to sit and watch what is going on around you- how people talk, how things are run, how things arent run..

there is such a general loss of human respect. its just so sad to see how virtually violent people can get- all over.

again, there is a lot of good dabbled all over the place, but when you read all the posts, not just the nice ones, or all the blogs- or deal with several forums, or companies.... there is just so much poop on the sidewalk and no one to clean it up.

 

[KingDon]

Ahhhhhhhh, sock puppets, and I watched the whole thing; it was funny, now onto your current dilemma. As hard as it is to deal with certain online personas, imagine if it were reversed. Imagine a world where people unleashed their inner persons out in public, and maintained a politically correct stature while communicating on the internet.

For the first time in history we can actually hear what anonymity has to say; and it doesn't sound like people are happy. There's a lot of misdirected animosity floating around out there.

 

[VirtualT]

For the first time in history we can actually hear what anonymity has to say; and it doesn't sound like people are happy. There's a lot of misdirected animosity floating around out there.

heh, you think forums are bad, check out usenet, that has been the real anarchists front line for the past 20 years

 

[Ronald Regging]

For the first time in history we can actually hear what anonymity has to say; and it doesn't sound like people are happy. There's a lot of misdirected animosity floating around out there.

The freedom of anonymity in a virtual reality comes with a price and that price is the realization of the confines of actual reality. It's amazing how much someone can learn about themselves that they never knew existed when they are allowed to proceed uninhibited. Most of us may just see the Internet as an extension of our lives, we do business, communicate with friends, etc... But for a lot of people, the Internet is introducing completely new ideas and self-realizations that may have far-reaching psychological effects.

On the Internet we can say, do or be whoever we want. In the real world, well, sometimes it can be a bit stifling. And it makes perfect sense that people would choose to express their frustration with the real world, via the freedom of the Internet...

But as the real continues to bleed into the virtual, we'll soon find both realities as equally confining. Afterall, we do create our own prisons.

 

[SLL]

there is such a general loss of human respect.

Smash, wow you are really bumming me out.

As cynical as I am, I still see lots of good people out there. There will always be people that get defensive or lash out when someone disagrees with them. There will always be people that act out or get angry because of where they are in their lives.

There are lots of good people that I see on the forums that are not necessarily good domainers.

Like any market worth a damn, buyers are looking for value and sellers are looking for a "reasonable price". Some people stretch their morals.

You actually sent me a PM the other day trying to be helpful on marketing some of my names. You were trying to be helpful.

Be happy with who you are. That's a start.

 

[floatingworld]

aaaah! diddums!

 

[lzy]

I do find this thread getting kinda philosophical. :hehe:

 

[gazzip]

Yes Justin, it sucks spending all that time cutting a path through the jungle only to turn around to see some guy eating an ice cream sandwich; thank you doesn't cut it.

:lol: LMAO - I love the way you put that :tu:

Domaining can be a bit disheartening at times because of the amount of time it requires but overall I love it ...like many I suspect, I'm still hoping for that big sale to help take it to another level !

Happy so far but a looooong way to go !


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I would imagine that getting together a few very talented domainers would pay dividends on ROI in this industry. Everyone always talks about the main barriers are startup capital and the time it takes to do research. By pooling resources I think it would greatly improve the ROI that the domainers would see. Along with the simple fact that the group would have more money it would also protect against making bad purchases. While 1 person may get excited and make a bad decision it is unlikely that 3 or 4 experianced domainers are going to make huge mistakes. To a great degree a group would be very benficial when trying to get into the top parking companies because of the ability to combine the portfolio.

RJ and a group of NPers are doing exactly this - Its a great idea and I'd love to know how its working out for them.

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[hawkeye]

For the first time in history we can actually hear what anonymity has to say; and it doesn't sound like people are happy. There's a lot of misdirected animosity floating around out there.

Oh yeah, try being a .mobi investor!! Constant ridicule, insults, etc. etc. And from people who state they don't like or will never invest in it, but time and time again - keep their ragging a flailing!! We all have opinions and reasons why we pick the names and extensions we do to invest in, but for some reason, I'd say the animinity of posting, brings out the 'how virtually violent people can get' in some. I guess so they can justify their choices moreso to themselves. Someone else's investments, need to be highlighted and trashed for...., self ego I guess.

Domaining is like any other type of business or investing. There will be those that succeed, those that do well, those that are happy at what they've done, and those that..., well should look at the writing on their own walls. Though we'd all like to be in with, and mingle with, those that are super successful, those that are, are not waiting to share their insights and beer toasting with everyone. Just the way it is in life.

 

[smashfactory]

ok- i was trying to not break things down more- i have been on the web long long time- understand the whole "voice without a face" thing-

i feel like the internet is a city half built- and i know it is always growing and evolving- i am not talking about the obvious-

and i dont mean to bum people out- i know a lot of awesome people too.

lets see.....

ok, you have 2 worlds- the "real" world and the online world- certain parts of the real world has moved into the online world- but it is lacking a certain structure to ensure stability i think. does that make sense?

 

[Keynes]

If you haven't wanted to quit at least a few times, then either you're ridiculously lucky or not taking enough risks. I've been at that point a few times, but have bounced back every time, and am certainly on a long-term upward trend. Put yourself out there, learn from your mistakes, capitalize on opportunities and read like crazy. No sleep 'til Brooklyn(.com)!

 

[smashfactory]

no no- this isnt about me per say- i am fine- really-

i guess this is sounding like a depressed suicide note- its not

i am talking about how to make change- i am fine-

the web is getting bigger and bigger, more occupants-

when you create a town, you need a mayor- when you create a company, you need a ceo- if there is a nation, there is a king, or a president-

after 14 years on the web, and i dont know who is the president out here

 

[gazzip]

after 14 years on the web, and i dont know who is the president out here

Why should there be a president ? - It is yours...it is mine....it is everyones !

Be happy Queen of Domainland is not a bad place to start !


ps - have you been spending too much time lately talking to those socks :blink:



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[Keynes]

capitalism is the antidote to entropy; fear not, it will be a wild ride but the 'net will mature...

 

[tophatter]

Domains are Real Estate on the Web. You own your own house,the house being the domain name..Homes are in cities that are in states that are in countries that are in the world..
Home = domain name
City = Type of name ex: finance,food,real estate porn etc
State = extension
Country = The internet
World = Mobi Ha HA ,(just had to throw that in as a mobi investor)

My analogys may seem strange but in any business and yes domaining is a business there are ups and dowms. It all depends on how you play the game.

Regards, Tophatter