hark said:
Does this mean that I will not be able to renew my membership? I do not want that outfit to have my bank account routing information. I didn't even like even giving them a CC number.
I may need to post there but I just discovered the email address over there has been dead for many months so I may have already missed a renewal notice.
Hello Hark,
How’s life? Heard from Grrilla?

The required verified p/p is the system we are using to confirm member ID. Unlike NP where you can play anonymous, DNOA has a different agenda and now that we have the signup issues dealt with (thank you Peter) we are accepting new members and will give existing members time to review our progress, reaffirm that we are still on track with our initial agenda, allowing the members some time before they have to consider re upping.
Straight up, it has been a tough row to hoe putting this back together after laying dormant for such a long period of time, but with the help of some damn fine and dedicated members we are progressing toward our start up goals.
I have to admit, most of the fault for the missed launch dates fall on my shoulders. Overly optimistic and not considering all the possibilities prompted me to speak way to soon, and then trying to CMA with a hope and a prayer instead of just copping to the judgment error and setting a future, more realistic time frame.
But we did not and have not quit. What we are doing here is important work, and these bumps just confirm to me which members are here for the seal and who believes in our mission statement.
We are here for the long haul, and therefore I consider these minor setbacks as a test of our metal and endurance.
And, we will continue to endure, to strive past any and all obstacles as we have done, as we are doing, and we will continue to bounce back with added vigor until this ship not only floats on her own, but under her own power sails through the seas of injustice to carry our united voice wherever it needs to be heard.
And we all know, every poster in this thread, every member of this forum, that this must be done, and done now.... and if not by us, then who?
Who is going speak for the individual domainer? Those of us still building our portfolios from hand reg'd domains, looking toward the future to protect ourselves from, at the moment what seems like a general conspiracy, from those Reg Houses that have taken minor loopholes within the weak ICANN policies and turned them into cash cows at our expense.
How in the world did we stand by and watch/let RegFly continue to totally disregard not only the law but any sense of ethical or moral business practice and rob customers on a daily basis, and when confronted with enough evidence to actually land them in court, would quietly push the name or refund the money and for crying out loud we were just so happy it was over, let it pass.....
until the name disappeared or wasn’t reg'd after the money was spent.
And it would start all over again, the Hate Regfly threads, and everyone would come out and post their own personal horror story in the thread and lots of harumping for several days or even weeks, and the blablabla about how we should blablabla, why dont we blablabla, why dont they blablabla, WHY DOESNT SOMEONE!!!!!!! blablabla, blablabla, blablabla.
Who stood against them? Did any present body of authority stand up for us and say... HEY a$$wipes, this ends now or you lose your key to the executive suitelife.
No! Not even a little bit.
How about the big portfolios, those individuals with enough history and respect in the industry that could have spoke up for us, put a little pressure on... I mean it's not like it was a secret what was happening, if they had spoke out against Regfly at any point, the powers that be would have been forced to act.... but nobody did. We did, one at a time, scream out our frustration, and then joined briefly by others, but we were not strong enough on our own to do a G D thing about it.
We have been robbed and raped and disregarded too long.
WE ARE THE NET<|> WE ARE THE MONEY <|> WE DESERVE A VOICE!!!!
WHOAAAAAAA... Cyberians going off ....again....
(hey I can hear)
And I'll tell you right freaking now, your right, I am going off. And I'm not done yet....
It's not just the Reg House's that are killing us either. We are killing ourselves slowly but surely, step by step by our own .....hide our heads in the sand, ....if we don’t say anything maybe it will go away,.... well its not effecting me so what attitude.... I'm talking now about the predators in our industry, about the despicable tactics and scamming and outright thieves that are the ones that make 6:00 news and the public's impression of Domainers (this is not a mainstream word yet) is that we are little more than a bunch of hijacking, blackmailing cybersquating 21st century outlaws that contribute nothing to either the world or the web, and cant the government do something to CONTROL these barbarians.
Is that what we want? Because we are too lazy or self concerned to grab a rope, find a tree, and make examples of the dreck that pervades this industry, that we'll wait for them to bring in their own cops... and regulations... and restrictions.... and corporate America will be right behind them, and the Domainer.... hell, we didn't even make it to the dictionary, much less the history books... think about it.
Ok, I'll admit... a rope and a tree.... might not fit the crime, but we can brand them, and ostracize them from our community, because people, if we don’t keep out house clean, they will send in the dozers and start building offices where our homes were.
^^^^ That’s why I'm still a member of the DNOA. Why, along with a few others right now that can see what is needed and why, and how it could get if we don’t start now. are working so hard to get it going strong AND are asking, no PLEADING with the rest of the community to get on board with this and support with word and deed the cause that started this from the beginning. A brighter future. A vision of many, but started and financed by one man.
Do you think NP is like any other forum you have ever been a member of? Why is there so much harmony and love for the community by the community?
A forum for commerce that doubles as school of higher learning, with its own monetary system that is incredibly stable and secure allowing those without conventional methods of finance available to them, to both conduct and prosper in a business environment.
Is this a model community? Is this the criteria all other communities should be compared to? Is this just a reflection of the man that dreamed it, laid the groundwork, and built it by hand until it is now 50,000 members strong and the envy of every Admin that has ever opened a vB manager?
Yes... it is all those things and more. Why more?
How many of you have come through those doors for the first time without a clue, and now are earning or at the very least learning to earn?
And what was the price of admission to full access to any and all services? What does any of this cost you?
The price is that you believe in a better today and a better tomorrow, and act accordingly while here. That’s it.
Nice tuition for a college level education, yea?
That you take what you learn and apply it, and pass on what has been given free to you, to the next guy coming in.
DNOA is no longer attached to the NP umbilical cord, but it is still based on the same principles and ideals that makes NamePros head and shoulders above the rest.
So stand up and be heard. Help others to be heard as well, because each voice contributes to the strength of the many. Come to DNOA, but only, and I mean this with all that is in me.... ONLY if you believe in the Code of Ethics, and ONLY if you believe in the mission statement.