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Hello,

Does anybody know when DNOA will be back up again as i'm really interested in becoming a member of it.

It says it's going to be up today but it's closing in to the end of the day now and still nothing.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Lewis.
 
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-LB- said:
Note to everyone: You must have a verified paypal account to become a member of DNOA.
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Does this mean that I will not be able to renew my membership? I do not want that outfit to have my bank account routing information. I didn't even like even giving them a CC number.

I may need to post there but I just discovered the email address over there has been dead for many months so I may have already missed a renewal notice.
 
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No renewals have been initiated as of yet.

As soon as we do the requirements will be disclosed but not 100% sure when it will be. However I should imagine renewals would be an easier prospect as you are already a registered user (but don't quote me on that, I'm just guessing at this time).
 
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hark said:
Does this mean that I will not be able to renew my membership? I do not want that outfit to have my bank account routing information. I didn't even like even giving them a CC number.

I may need to post there but I just discovered the email address over there has been dead for many months so I may have already missed a renewal notice.
Hello Hark,
How’s life? Heard from Grrilla? :)
The required verified p/p is the system we are using to confirm member ID. Unlike NP where you can play anonymous, DNOA has a different agenda and now that we have the signup issues dealt with (thank you Peter) we are accepting new members and will give existing members time to review our progress, reaffirm that we are still on track with our initial agenda, allowing the members some time before they have to consider re upping.

Straight up, it has been a tough row to hoe putting this back together after laying dormant for such a long period of time, but with the help of some damn fine and dedicated members we are progressing toward our start up goals.

I have to admit, most of the fault for the missed launch dates fall on my shoulders. Overly optimistic and not considering all the possibilities prompted me to speak way to soon, and then trying to CMA with a hope and a prayer instead of just copping to the judgment error and setting a future, more realistic time frame.

But we did not and have not quit. What we are doing here is important work, and these bumps just confirm to me which members are here for the seal and who believes in our mission statement.
We are here for the long haul, and therefore I consider these minor setbacks as a test of our metal and endurance.
And, we will continue to endure, to strive past any and all obstacles as we have done, as we are doing, and we will continue to bounce back with added vigor until this ship not only floats on her own, but under her own power sails through the seas of injustice to carry our united voice wherever it needs to be heard.

And we all know, every poster in this thread, every member of this forum, that this must be done, and done now.... and if not by us, then who?

Who is going speak for the individual domainer? Those of us still building our portfolios from hand reg'd domains, looking toward the future to protect ourselves from, at the moment what seems like a general conspiracy, from those Reg Houses that have taken minor loopholes within the weak ICANN policies and turned them into cash cows at our expense.

How in the world did we stand by and watch/let RegFly continue to totally disregard not only the law but any sense of ethical or moral business practice and rob customers on a daily basis, and when confronted with enough evidence to actually land them in court, would quietly push the name or refund the money and for crying out loud we were just so happy it was over, let it pass.....
until the name disappeared or wasn’t reg'd after the money was spent.

And it would start all over again, the Hate Regfly threads, and everyone would come out and post their own personal horror story in the thread and lots of harumping for several days or even weeks, and the blablabla about how we should blablabla, why dont we blablabla, why dont they blablabla, WHY DOESNT SOMEONE!!!!!!! blablabla, blablabla, blablabla.

Who stood against them? Did any present body of authority stand up for us and say... HEY a$$wipes, this ends now or you lose your key to the executive suitelife.
No! Not even a little bit.
How about the big portfolios, those individuals with enough history and respect in the industry that could have spoke up for us, put a little pressure on... I mean it's not like it was a secret what was happening, if they had spoke out against Regfly at any point, the powers that be would have been forced to act.... but nobody did. We did, one at a time, scream out our frustration, and then joined briefly by others, but we were not strong enough on our own to do a G D thing about it.

We have been robbed and raped and disregarded too long.
WE ARE THE NET<|> WE ARE THE MONEY <|> WE DESERVE A VOICE!!!!

WHOAAAAAAA... Cyberians going off ....again....
(hey I can hear)

And I'll tell you right freaking now, your right, I am going off. And I'm not done yet....

It's not just the Reg House's that are killing us either. We are killing ourselves slowly but surely, step by step by our own .....hide our heads in the sand, ....if we don’t say anything maybe it will go away,.... well its not effecting me so what attitude.... I'm talking now about the predators in our industry, about the despicable tactics and scamming and outright thieves that are the ones that make 6:00 news and the public's impression of Domainers (this is not a mainstream word yet) is that we are little more than a bunch of hijacking, blackmailing cybersquating 21st century outlaws that contribute nothing to either the world or the web, and cant the government do something to CONTROL these barbarians.

Is that what we want? Because we are too lazy or self concerned to grab a rope, find a tree, and make examples of the dreck that pervades this industry, that we'll wait for them to bring in their own cops... and regulations... and restrictions.... and corporate America will be right behind them, and the Domainer.... hell, we didn't even make it to the dictionary, much less the history books... think about it.

Ok, I'll admit... a rope and a tree.... might not fit the crime, but we can brand them, and ostracize them from our community, because people, if we don’t keep out house clean, they will send in the dozers and start building offices where our homes were.

^^^^ That’s why I'm still a member of the DNOA. Why, along with a few others right now that can see what is needed and why, and how it could get if we don’t start now. are working so hard to get it going strong AND are asking, no PLEADING with the rest of the community to get on board with this and support with word and deed the cause that started this from the beginning. A brighter future. A vision of many, but started and financed by one man.

Do you think NP is like any other forum you have ever been a member of? Why is there so much harmony and love for the community by the community?

A forum for commerce that doubles as school of higher learning, with its own monetary system that is incredibly stable and secure allowing those without conventional methods of finance available to them, to both conduct and prosper in a business environment.

Is this a model community? Is this the criteria all other communities should be compared to? Is this just a reflection of the man that dreamed it, laid the groundwork, and built it by hand until it is now 50,000 members strong and the envy of every Admin that has ever opened a vB manager?

Yes... it is all those things and more. Why more?

How many of you have come through those doors for the first time without a clue, and now are earning or at the very least learning to earn?
And what was the price of admission to full access to any and all services? What does any of this cost you?
The price is that you believe in a better today and a better tomorrow, and act accordingly while here. That’s it.

Nice tuition for a college level education, yea?
That you take what you learn and apply it, and pass on what has been given free to you, to the next guy coming in.

DNOA is no longer attached to the NP umbilical cord, but it is still based on the same principles and ideals that makes NamePros head and shoulders above the rest.

So stand up and be heard. Help others to be heard as well, because each voice contributes to the strength of the many. Come to DNOA, but only, and I mean this with all that is in me.... ONLY if you believe in the Code of Ethics, and ONLY if you believe in the mission statement.
 
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Hey ~ Cyberian ~,

Life aint so bad, spring is a commin & saps a runnin. My favorite time of the year and I finally sold a domain (.cc for mid $XXX).

Been really wondering about Grrilla myself. Miss his 'off the wall' stuff.

That was quite a post which everyone should read. NP is an awsome place. I have checked out other domain related places but always end up back here.

I liked the DNOA concept from the very beginning but it will require a lot of serious thought as to whether I can set my personal beliefs aside regarding security/privacy in order to give that information to Paypal. Don't get me wrong because I understand why in todays world such things (sadly) become necessary.

I started to say something here -- better kept private -- PM coming.
 
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I also love spring, the rebirth of the earth. New life springs forth, the leaves lost in Fall and buried through Winter now food for the soil and it begins again.

Congratz on your sale, and here is to many more.

I replied to your PM, sir. Thank you for taking the time to explain your position. 100% valid imo, but the characteristics you mentioned are rarely found within Cyberia, and when they are you want to be sure to take the opportunity to walk up and shake that mans hand.

*offers hand

Please consider this a meeting of sorts.

Peace,
Cyberian
 
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~ Cyberian ~ said:
I replied to your PM, sir. Thank you for taking the time to explain your position. 100% valid imo, but the characteristics you mentioned are rarely found within Cyberia, and when they are you want to be sure to take the opportunity to walk up and shake that mans hand.

See now all you have gone and done is got me intrigued :hehe:
 
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I'll take some responsibility for the delay with DNOA (at least what part of it I am responsible for). I am charged with coming up with a FAQ section and I've been busy as all get out... My goal is to have the section finalized by this weekend.

Thanks for everyone's patience with the DNOA roll out. Now that new applications are being accepted, I encourage everyone who believe in what DNOA stands for to sign-up. http://www.dnoa.org/joindnoa.php
 
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I expect to pay the same amount as when I joined, for renewal.
 
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Yeah, not upping the renewal fee would be good:)

I'm sure I'll renew, when the time comes. I pretty much use my @dnoa.net email as my main e-mail anymore.

So I hope DNOA stays around, if not let me know before my e-mail account goes away.. LOL

And ofcourse it is a solid concept with firm beliefs and lots of character, I hope it does very well:)
 
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GreenGambler said:
I'm sure I'll renew, when the time comes. I pretty much use my @dnoa.net email as my main e-mail anymore.

So I hope DNOA stays around, if not let me know before my e-mail account goes away.. LOL

New renewal fees $100 :hehe:

But in all seriousness the renew price as it stands for founding members stays the same as the sign up cost. I am not 100% sure when renewals will be asked for. At present however most will be aware that the renewal dates have come and gone but this at the moment will not affect anyone's membership status.
 
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just registered
 
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ken_o I have just authorized your account. Welcome to DNOA.
 
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peter@flexiwebhost said:
See now all you have gone and done is got me intrigued :hehe:
Simple. A discussion about ethics, morality and privacy/security. I am of the old school where the spoken agreement/handshake/eye contact is as binding as a written contract.

I want to become involved but having trouble figuring where I might fit.

Question. Going to use scammed.us?

BTW ~ Cyberian ~ has a firm secure grip.

Hey ~Cyberian~ this will explain something I said about communications -- www.hiqnet.com/me.jpg

I vote for a 20 buck renewal. Go back and read this thread to see why I say that.
 
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Fonzie, No problem... we understood from the gate you were under time constraints, so no pressure. The fact you are onboard is good enough.

Stub and GreenGambler, the renewal rates are:

DNOA Founding Members: $6.95
DNOA non Founding Members: $14.95

Just as a note, no-one has had to renew as of yet.
Like I said in the post above, we want the existing
members to know we are still ontrack and working
on the Mission Statement before having to decide.

ken_o, Welcome to DNOA.

Hark, scammed.us is being set up as our data base of known (proven) scammers. All entrys will be moderated and confirmed.

Ok, it's back to the salt mine for me...
Thanks to everyone for their input, suggestions, and comments.

Peace,
Cyberian
 
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Scammed.us.. as a site listing proven scammers would be interesting. Individuals, businesses or both? Thats kinda of what I wanted to do to my DN Suqr.com but never got to it.. lol

The only bad thing is, I'm sure a scammer can change their identity, quickly and quite often, so I don't know how the site would keep up on that. I can't wait 'till that site is up and running. It will be a good thing:)
 
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GreenGambler said:
The only bad thing is, I'm sure a scammer can change their identity, quickly and quite often, so I don't know how the site would keep up on that. I can't wait 'till that site is up and running. It will be a good thing:)

That is very true and I agree with you but having a database of scams and their past profiles will help limit how easily they get away with it in future and limits their scope.
 
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If there are any problems with acessing the DNOA site or issues with speed, etc. please let us know here. It is located on one of our best servers, helicase.nsglobalhost.net, but it also has a robust firewall so it is possible an IP may be blocked.

The site is may be also be a bit slow at the moment due to MySQL optimization, it's being resolved now.
 
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I just joined DNOA! Waaaaay back when I first joined Namepros a member named Iravan recommended it (on Feb. 19th!)

Better late than never! :D

PS I found it funny after the comments above that it said about DNOA:

"Unverified Business Member" on the paypal payment screen. :lol:
 
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lol Kerrijo I never noticed that. think we will need to sort that out.
 
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