domain Datsun.net

[Federer]

Datsun.net

Close the 10,000,000 google results.

Overture/mo 13956

Please appraise.

 

[Jeffrey]

Trademarked, probably zero.

 

[Kate]

The sponsored ads are an invitation to lawyers.

 

[mvl]

dangerous ....

http://www.ncchelp.org/The_Story/the_story.htm

 

[MJ]

Yes, dangerous - but still worth something to specific buyers. Some people don't care about TMs, and like to gamble. The rewards can be amazing at times because only a percentage of people get in trouble. Hard to police the world. The datsun brand is old and discontinued anyway.

Even if you reg afowEfjaEFijawef.com you are still open to lawsuits. You can't live your life in fear. I'd personally make a datsun memorial site, or fan site, etc. Your revenue from this could be outstanding.

Good luck!

 

[exsedo]

I would definately check on the TM, because if you sell it, you can still be held accountable for mis-use. I used to have a Datsun 25 years ago lol.

 

[firefly]

Like MJ said..some people won't care that it's a trademark. Some people like to gamble that way. So if you can get one of those buyers, you might get something for it.

As for sale to an enduser, where the real money is....forget it. Why pay for something they can just take away from you.

less than reg fee unless you find the gambler type. Personaly...I would get rid of it.

 

[wot]

The .com is parked, you will probably find a buyer particularly if it has convertible traffic.

 

[saucey]

I will buy it for $10 bucks. :sold:

 

[gemstar]

The .com is parked, you will probably find a buyer particularly if it has convertible traffic.

Or hardtop :lol:

 

[Federer]

Thanks guys for your feedback.

So, yes I am looking to sell. Should be able to get $100 I guess.

 

[Tim Schoon]

HUGE TM - The Datsun trademark is owned by NISSAN! 'they have a domain sueing history as we all know, and ts still going on for nissan.com.

 

[gazzip]

I think you strayed a bit too far off track with that one TBH

If its not broken don't fix it, stick to what was working very well for you :tu:



.

 

[Federer]

I'll just have to let this domain drop... you're right. Thanks.

 

[npcomplete]

Notice the obscure categories (i.e., not cars) associated with the latest filing by Nissan, the car company. The registration date is Christmas day of last year, so these people are actively maintaining their mark:

Word Mark DATSUN
Goods and Services IC 008. US 023 028 044. G & S: Tableware made of precious metals, namely, forks, spoons, and knives

IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Apparatus for recording, transmission or reproduction of sound or images; blank magnetic carriers and prerecorded magnetic carriers relating to video and arcade games and electronic toys and games, particularly those featuring vehicles; blank record discs; automatic vending machines and mechanisms for coin-operated and electronically operated apparatus, namely, arcade games and vending machines for toys; cash registers, calculators, data processors, computers; fire extinguishers

IC 014. US 002 027 028 050. G & S: (Based on 44(d) Priority Application) precious metals; key rings, trinkets and key fobs made of precious metals; tableware of precious metals, namely, plates, bowls, platters, and cups; nutcrackers, pepper pots, sugar bowls, salt shakers, egg cups, napkin holders, napkin rings, trays, and toothpick holders of precious metals; boxes of precious metals for needles; candle extinguishers and candlesticks of precious metals; jewel cases of precious metals; flower bases and bowls of precious metals; trophies in the nature of prize cups made of precious metals; commemorative shields made of precious metals; personal ornaments made of precious metals, namely, rings, earrings, necklaces, bracelets, pierced earrings, anklets, jewelry; purses and wallets of precious metals; semi-wrought precious stones and their imitations; powder compacts of precious metals; shoe ornaments of precious metals; clocks and watches; smokers articles of precious metals, namely, cigar cases, ashtrays, cigar lighters, pipes, cases for cigar goods, cigar cutters

IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: (Based on 44(d) Priority Application) Pastes and other adhesives for stationery or household purposes; sealing wax; printers' reglets interline leads; printing types; blueprinting machines; addressing machines; inking ribbons; electric staplers for offices; envelope sealing machines for offices; drawings instruments; typewriters; check writers; mimeographs; relief duplicators; paper shredders for office use; franking and stamping machines; rotary duplicators; marking templates; electric pencil sharpeners; decorators' paintbrushes; babies' diapers of paper; industrial packaging containers of paper; food wrapping plastic film for household use; garbage bags of paper for household use; garbage bags of plastic for household use; paper patterns for making paper crafts of vehicles; tailors' chalk; banners of paper; flags of paper; indoor aquaria and their fittings; tissues and wet tissues; paper towels; paper table napkins; paper hand towels; paper handkerchiefs; printed lottery tickets; paper table cloths; paper and cardboard; stationery; printed matter; paintings and calligraphic works; photograph; photograph stands

IC 028. US 022 023 038 050. G & S: (Based on 44(d) Priority Application) Wax for skis; coin-operated and electronically operated amusement machines and apparatus for use in amusement parks, other than arcade video game machines; toys for domestic pets; vehicle toys; dolls; go games; Utagarutal Japanese playing cards; Shogi Japanese chess; dice; Japanese dice games; dice cups; diamond games, namely Chinese checkers; chess games; checkers and checkers sets; conjuring apparatus, namely, magic tricks; dominoes; playing cards; Hanafuda Japanese playing cards; Mah-jong; game machines and apparatus, namely, electronic game equipment for playing video games and video game programs, hand-held units for playing electronic video games, stand alone video game machines, and video game machines for match-up games on the internet; billiard equipment, namely, balls, cues and racks; sports equipment, namely, golf balls; fishing tackle

IC 030. US 046. G & S: Coffee, tea, cocoa, sugar, rice, tapioca, sago, artificial coffee; flour; processed cereals; bread; pastry;confectionery goods, namely, candies, biscuits, cookies and chocolates; flavored ices; honey, treacle; yeast, baking-powder; salt, mustard; vinegar, sauces; spices; ice


Standard Characters Claimed

Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 76606319
Filing Date August 10, 2004
Current Filing Basis 44E
Original Filing Basis 1B;44D
Published for Opposition October 9, 2007
Registration Number 3358322

Registration Date December 25, 2007
Owner (REGISTRANT) Nissan Jidosha Kabushiki Kaisha DBA Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. CORPORATION JAPAN No. 2 Takaracho, Kanagawa-ku Yokohama-shi, Kanagawa-ken JAPAN
Attorney of Record Glenn Law
Priority Date May 28, 2004
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Here is the original TM filing, on Oct. 13, 1959:

Word Mark DATSUN
Goods and Services IC 007 012 022 027. US 019. G & S: [SHIPS AND VEHICLES-NAMELY,] AUTOMOBILE[S,] [BUSES, MOTOR TRUCKS, PATROL CARS, MOTOR CYCLES, AMBULANCES, TRUCK TRACTORS, TANK TRUCKS, AND] PARTS [THEREOF]

Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 72053631
Filing Date June 16, 1958
Current Filing Basis 44E
Original Filing Basis 44E
Registration Number 0686586

Registration Date October 13, 1959
Owner (REGISTRANT) NISSAN JIDOSHA KABUSHIKI KAISHA COMPANY JAPAN NO. 2, TAKARA-CHO KANAGAWA-KU, YOKOHAMA JAPAN
Attorney of Record Micol Cecchi
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR).
Renewal 2ND RENEWAL 20000124
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Thanks guys for your feedback.

So, yes I am looking to sell. Should be able to get $100 I guess.

This is a great one to drop... your reputation stays with you for life, and selling your reputation for $100 or whatever is not worth it.

 

[Federer]

Ok, thanks again for re-pursuading me about this domain.

I am at the control panel at Registar.com for Datsun. How can I have these domain deleted from my account? Doesn't seem to be an option here to get rid of this domain....

BTW... Please let me know your favourite illusions at www.illusions.net (doing a mini-survey)

 

[npcomplete]

Ok, thanks again for re-pursuading me about this domain.

I am at the control panel at Registar.com for Datsun. How can I have these domain deleted from my account? Doesn't seem to be an option here to get rid of this domain....

BTW... Please let me know your favourite illusions at www.illusions.net (doing a mini-survey)

Not that familiar with Registrar.com, but here is a technique that was recommended by Daniel over at that other forum (where I appraised your Illusions.net a week ago). It is good for TM problems:

Create an account at the registrar using a different name. Then transfer the domain into the account. Then delete the name after a few days to make sure all records are transferred. That way the last holder is not you. Also, some registrars keep the records of the last holder in the whois after they delete the domain. If you have read Daniel's posts, he has a lot of tips like that for TM problems.

 

[phase111]

What about names like Honda or Suzuki..I know honda is a Japanese surname and I think Suzuki might be both a surname and geographical location. In eitehr case would these not be allowed, providing you are not advertising vehicles..could you not offer both of these for sale even to Honda or Suzuki directly without infringing copyright? Any thoughts? I saw that Toyota.me was sold for thousands.

 

[bmugford]

Toyota.me was a stupid purchase. The same person bought Porsche.me and lost it in a UDRP.

However if you want to look at a way you can avoid a TM look at Nissan.com, Nissan has spent millions trying to acquire it.

UDRP takes three parts.

1.) TM or Name Infringement
2.) No legitimate reason to own the domain.
3.) Using a name in bad faith.

If your name is something like Joe Suzuki and you have a non infringing website at JoeSuzuki.com or SuzukiDesigns.com you should be fine.

However, if your domain is a blatant TM violation like SuzukiCars.com then you are playing with fire.

Brad

What about names like Honda or Suzuki..I know honda is a Japanese surname and I think Suzuki might be both a surname and geographical location. In eitehr case would these not be allowed, providing you are not advertising vehicles..could you not offer both of these for sale even to Honda or Suzuki directly without infringing copyright? Any thoughts? I saw that Toyota.me was sold for thousands.

 

[phase111]

Thanks Brad, but what about if your name isnt Suzuki- perhaps you could set up a blog page about some ancient Japanese artist called Yoji Suzuki to get around this problem, and then still offer to Suzuki motor company after letting them know what you're using it for? Sounds crafty I know, but wouldn't this be a possibility to get around the TM issue?