Custom $100.00 Websites! Unlimited Revisions

[mike1023]

$100 per website, unlimited revisions, quick turn around.

If you are in need of a professional, custom website (5 pages) please PM me with details including:

Website domain name
Website concept
Examples of similar websites
Colors (optional)

Here are some samples of recent work for NamePros members directly from this thread:

I look forward to working with you!

Mike

 

[Mike]

I suppose someone should inform Mike-Vessio of this thread, to give him a last chance for recourse.
I'm leaving his account closed, but he can read the thread and take appropriate action.

M.

 

[bmugford]

I think Mike knows what is going on to be honest. I have emailed him several times explaining what actions I will take if he fails to issue a refund. He has responded to most of those emails with more failed promises.

If he doesn't think this is serious he will get a reality check soon.

I don't think this started out as a scam, but I have no idea what is going on. If it was a scam I have never seen a paper trail so long and detailed.

Brad

I suppose someone should inform Mike-Vessio of this thread, to give him a last chance for recourse.
I'm leaving his account closed, but he can read the thread and take appropriate action.

M.

 

[Fixhotep]

Not to go too off topic, but his site went down 12-14-08 which was the day after expiration. The registrar extended it a year and is giving the owner a chance to re-register. That's why it says 2009.

So yea, the domain expired.

I'll still try to make it over there as soon as I can.

The domain has not expired:

Expiration Date: 2009-12-13
Creation Date: 2007-12-13
Last Update Date: 2008-12-14

http://www.who.is/whois-com/ip-address/vessio.com/

Fixhotep - That would be great! thanks!

 

[henniemeijer]

last chance for recourse?
very funny Mike(Mod)
immaterial and indirect damage is too big already for a recourse.
This is no time for clemency anymore.
He will not deliver, will not be able/does not want to pay back.
Possibly he will somehow tell that he got "in trouble" with drugs/gambling/flood and ask for a last chance.
All that is left is revenge in one way or the other for the people who are looking to satisfy their feelings somehow. (which is very legitimate I think)
Only constructive thing is being on the lookout as he will try to offer his services under a new name.

Then again, JeffOverman may tell us we should just be patient.

 

[Mike]

last chance for recourse?
very funny Mike(Mod)
immaterial and indirect damage is too big already for a recourse.
This is no time for clemency anymore.
He will not deliver, will not be able/does not want to pay back.
Possibly he will somehow tell that he got "in trouble" with drugs/gambling/flood and ask for a last chance.
All that is left is revenge in one way or the other for the people who are looking to satisfy their feelings somehow. (which is very legitimate I think)
Only constructive thing is being on the lookout as he will try to offer his services under a new name.

Then again, JeffOverman may tell us we should just be patient.

Fun wasn't the intent as there's money involved.
Recourse: refund any amount paid within 24 hrs and everyone can walk away, while the appropriate channels (BBB) are informed.

Danna will not do business through NP anymore, no matter what.
Revenge is a foolish notion in this case regard. What matters is to retain/retrieve what's rightfully yours.
If he doesn't repay what's owed, the appropriate actions, including a police report, small claims court filing, etc. should be taken as well.
Brad (bmugford) has done the majority of the legwork and consolidated most of the possible approaches to address or resolve the issues.


M.

 

[elius]

Somehow the login screen of my site logos dot biz is still the same vessio one. I must admit, he really fooled me in thinking he was legit.

I have paid $300 for one custom site. I have not received the promised website (files) for my project after several promises. The last contact was november 13th. I was assured that the project was ready for review and vessio only needed to add my content which I delivered the same day. After this I haven't heard anything anymore.

I suppose emailing to a parked vessio site is kinda useless now. If someone has another email address I can use to contact him it would be appreciated.

To be sure I will post my claim here too;
If I don't get my website or a full refund within the next 48 hours I will contact the authorities to get some form of justice.

I think it would be helpful if all the victims of vessio-Mike organize in some way and put in a complaint to the authorities together.

 

[DotWeekly]

BBB

http://complaints.bbb.org

Consumer Protection (US government)

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

I have filed these two complaints this morning so I will keep you all updated on what if anything these two bring. The BBB complaint will go directly to Vessio's local BBB which is in Texas.

I think as a whole, the more complaints the BBB get's the more likely Action will be taken. The links are above. Here is Vessio's Company Information you will need to enter.

Vessio, LLC Vessio.com
Mike Danna
Local 713-995-0566
Toll Free 866-383-6734 dest. 1
Fax 866-383-6734
9898 Bissonnet St. Suite 598H
Houston, Texas 77036

I see NO reason for those who keep "talking" about doing something. These failed promises have been going on for Months! The BBB complaint will take about 4-6 minutes. The FTC complaint will be an added push to have something done and get us some Action for once (refund)!

 

[bmugford]

There is also the option to file a complaint with the Houston Police Department (link a few posts above). What Mike has done is a crime, it is flat out theft.

If the total stolen was over $5000 Mike could be facing grand theft charges. This is a very serious issue which he does not seem to understand.

Brad

BBB

http://complaints.bbb.org

Consumer Protection (US government)

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

I have filed these two complaints this morning so I will keep you all updated on what if anything these two bring. The BBB complaint will go directly to Vessio's local BBB which is in Texas.

I think as a whole, the more complaints the BBB get's the more likely Action will be taken. The links are above. Here is Vessio's Company Information you will need to enter.

Vessio, LLC Vessio.com
Mike Danna
Local 713-995-0566
Toll Free 866-383-6734 dest. 1
Fax 866-383-6734
9898 Bissonnet St. Suite 598H
Houston, Texas 77036

I see NO reason for those who keep "talking" about doing something. These failed promises have been going on for Months! The BBB complaint will take about 4-6 minutes. The FTC complaint will be an added push to have something done and get us some Action for once (refund)!

 

[shreder]

Edit:
I have received a reply from Mike now and his vessio.com site seems to be back up.

I will be filing a BBB complaint soon if he does not refund my payment.

 

[Fixhotep]

I stopped by his Bissonnet office. It is indeed an office building and Vessio LLC is listed as a tenant there. The 598H office does have a Vessio LLC plaque on the door, however it was locked and no one answered.

 

[elius]

I see NO reason for those who keep "talking" about doing something. These failed promises have been going on for Months! The BBB complaint will take about 4-6 minutes. The FTC complaint will be an added push to have something done and get us some Action for once (refund)!

I have a reason for "talking" about doing something. For one thing; I hoped we could work together as clients.
Secondly; I haven't complained formally with vessio/Mike. Until today I believed I would eventually get my site. Since his own site was offline today, I started to believe I was being scammed. Either way; he made promise after promise and broke them just as easily.
I will contact him now that his site seems to be online again to find out if I need to take this a step further.

 

[Tomi-gwc]

Jesus Christ guys, Mike's clearly in over his head here and the last thing he needs is legal complaints, just be patient. I'm in no way saying whats happening is fair or right but I guarantee Mike isn't stealing from you, clearly some mistakes were made and he took on more than he could cope with, just give him time.

 

[bmugford]

Well, the last thing I need is someone trying to steal money from me. I have been more than patient. Eventually failed promise after failed promise start to wear a little thin. If Mike refuses to take this seriously, then he will be forced to take it seriously.

You have to understand that thousands have been stolen here. Mike is not in contact with anyone recently.

If you take payment for services and don't provide those services or a refund, that is theft. There are plenty of legal channels to use if Mike refuses to cooperate.

He has left a paper trail a mile long. If he refuses to provide refunds then the only option is to escalate it to agencies that have the authority to take action vs him.

I told Mike last week that if I did not have a refund by Monday at Noon PST I would file a CC Dispute with Bank of America as well as a BBB complaint. I took both of those steps today as promised. I take this type of behavior very seriously.

Brad

Jesus Christ guys, Mike's clearly in over his head here and the last thing he needs is legal complaints, just be patient. I'm in no way saying whats happening is fair or right but I guarantee Mike isn't stealing from you, clearly some mistakes were made and he took on more than he could cope with, just give him time.

 

[henniemeijer]

Not blaming you that you are trying defend someone you used to know as a good guy, but Mike obviously has changed completely under influence of something.
How so is he not stealing and lying, can you not read how often he has lied on purpose already? You have some courage coming to his defense after some Jeff Overman tried to come up with the same defense for him a few weeks ago and since Mike has deceived more people. You want that more people get deceived?
Telling me the sites will be up the same night as they are 100 % ready to go, just still has to upload. 7 days later same story with the obvious sorry,been busy. Sites ready 100 % just needed to upload. Weeks later still nothing.
He probably got into drugs or gambling and lost all sense of reality, if he was a good guy before like some people state and honestly believe.
I come from the gambling world and there you see this kind of behaviour more often. People who function normally for a long time do things nobody wants to believe as they lose all sense of reality. Everybody around them will not believe it for a long time and therefor they can build up incredible debts.
(Legal) action will not get our money back, but a little satisfaction helps

Jesus Christ guys, Mike's clearly in over his head here and the last thing he needs is legal complaints, just be patient. I'm in no way saying whats happening is fair or right but I guarantee Mike isn't stealing from you, clearly some mistakes were made and he took on more than he could cope with, just give him time.

 

[maxxwebb]

i'm not sure what has happened, but i do support those who have the "know-how" and means to take further action.

i would also support MIKE if he would be honest with me (us)!

it's getting very late for that now.

MIKE: it's a small world, is it REALLY worth it?? DO THE RIGHT THING, even if it takes "some time" to correct.

Thank you.

Mike B.
CANADA

 

[Mike]

Tomi-gwc; thanks for your opinion and point of view.
Everyone else, thanks for weighing in and keeping cool about it.

Let's return to facts and progress made in resolving this situation.

Thanks,

M.

 

[henniemeijer]

I suggest we make two different threads:
1. for the people who believe they have a glimmer of hope(as if Mike were smart he would divide us by delivering for 1-5 persons) and by trying to act as if they are reasonable might get preferential threatment by the new and improved Mike and threat the rest like before.

2. second thread for the people who are or are willing to pursue (legal) action.
BMugford has asked to send him details about complaints, I suggest we send this in Pm's to him, keeping it short and take it from there.
In this second thread we can keep each other informed about our(legal) actions and refrain from attacking people who still hope they can escape themselves by not attacking Mike and presenting themselves as being reasonable.(legitimate choice)

It is hard for a foreigner(like me) to take Mike to court or take action otherwise, but I am wiling to pay part of expenses for effective ways of revenge in one way or the other.

By making two threads we can avoid attacks on each others points of view and avoid wasting trying to convince each other either way.

I understand the point of view/position for mods, but it is also time to respect the point of view for the people who have given up and just want revenge, therefor two threads.

 

[Mike]

I understand the point of view/position for mods, but it is also time to respect the point of view for the people who have given up and just want revenge, therefor two threads.

Any secondary thread that is created purely for the reason to vent, plot revenge tactics and such would get deleted pretty quickly. This is not what NP is known for and stands for. Hence, the call for professionalism.
Now, don't get me wrong. If I were in your shoes, I'd be beyond steaming, furious and would call for the cavalry - in the end, my antics would get deleted as they're not resolving anything.
I perfectly understand that it's difficult to keep a cool head when someone has taken your money and the only thing delivered are excuses.
However, since we're all here to conduct business, we'd also want to have the reputation of businessmen, not raging lunatics that would shy away from nothing to get our point accross.
Do it smart, legal, cool and stay professional.

M.

 

[mhdoc]

I have no involvement in this deal but have some experience with similar situations. So, a couple of thoughts.

1. Don't waste good money chasing bad. The money is gone, get over it and move on. The time, effort, money and emotional energy is better spent moving forward with something positive.

2. It's neither uncommon nor criminal for a business to fail owing money to customers & vendors. Owners try to keep things going as long as they think there is a chance they can make it work. When they can't they have little choice but to move on. One of the four C's of credit is Capacity. If you don't have the capacity to repay Character becomes irrelevant.

 

[bmugford]

Thanks for the advice but it doesn't cost any money to file a dispute or a BBB complaint.

Theft is a crime and just letting it go is not even an option as far as I am concerned. It is more about principal to me than the actual money.

If Mike had kept in contact with me, or provided a valid reason I would be more open. Any consequences that comes of this he can only blame on himself.

Brad

I have no involvement in this deal but have some experience with similar situations. So, a couple of thoughts.

1. Don't waste good money chasing bad. The money is gone, get over it and move on. The time, effort, money and emotional energy is better spent moving forward with something positive.

2. It's neither uncommon nor criminal for a business to fail owing money to customers & vendors. Owners try to keep things going as long as they think there is a chance they can make it work. When they can't they have little choice but to move on. One of the four C's of credit is Capacity. If you don't have the capacity to repay Character becomes irrelevant.