.crypto domains launching on 12/11

[Unstoppable Domains]

Hi NamePros,

We’re announcing the launch of the .crypto domain extension on 12/11. 50,000 domains have already been registered. Go to https://unstoppabledomains.com/?ref=namepros to find available domains.

You’ve probably all heard about cryptocurrency, but may not be aware that new domain extensions are being launched on blockchains. These domains are not part of the ICANN system. They are stored by the owner, with their private key, not by a registrar like Godaddy. No one can transfer a domain or update it other than the owner. If you store website content on decentralized storage instead of Amazon Web Services, then no one can take down your website other than you.

A blockchain domain + Decentralized storage = An uncensorable website

This is the beginning of an entirely new internet built to protect free speech around the world.


Blockchain domain features

• No Renewals - Pay once and it’s yours ... forever
  
  
• No Custodian - Domains are stored by the owner. No third party can move or update them
  
  
• Payments - The domain can be used as a payment address for cryptocurrencies. Send Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, or any other currency all to the same domain
  
  
• Uncensorable Websites - Attach domains to content on decentralized storage and create an uncensorable website
  
  
• Transfers - Escrow agents aren’t needed. Transfer to anyone in the world in under 1 minute with no risk of being defrauded

We’ll be moderating this thread and we’d love to hear your thoughts!


Brad Kam, Co-founder

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[Unstoppable Domains]

You are welcome and thank you for your answer!

Regarding .crypto ICANN new gTLD, I would tend to agree with some other members here that there might a certain likehood that it might be granted to another company in future new gTLD rounds.

So imagine I buy your blockchain domain name, let's say lolwarrior.crypto, and I will spend time and effort to build a nice website on it. What is your guarantee that scenario with .crypto ICANN tld will not happen?

Because if that happens, then logically there would need to be a decision whether either blockchain .crypto domains or standard ICANN .crypto domains are resolved in browsers of typical internet users...and if that would be in standard ICANN .crypto favour, my blockchain .crypto domain name could still be used for another functions, like crypto payments, but it will loose it's ability to serve me as an domain name because the content will simply not be resolved in browsers of typical internet users.. is this correct understanding?

We can make no guarantee around what ICANN will do. However, I don't see how an ICANN .crypto would have credibility since it can't be used for crypto payments and is not a self custodied asset (like all blockchain assets). This would be false advertising on the part of an ICANN based promoter.

Moreover, the companies that are resolving it over the next few years will be against a colliding ICANN system and will contest such a move. Lastly, we have applied for the TM and will contest such an alternate launch. If previous cases like this are precedent, then it's likely such an issue won't be resolved until several years beyond 2022. This means that .crypto has plenty of time to grow into a standard across browsers, wallets, and other apps.

I think it's illogical for the ICANN system to invite such chaos if a domain extension is already in use across the world. And if they do, apps can still ignore them. And cryptocurrency wallets are starting to add browser functionality to their apps as well. it's dangerous to have two systems at once, ours will have already wide use, and ours will be an actual blockchain system, unlike an ICANN .crypto.

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

@Unstoppable Domains , what action will be taken against .crypto Web site that post child porn or sell human organ? If you will not govern the address, how is it not dark web or alternative web?

At the root level, no action is possible. Once a domain has been distributed, it can only be moved by the owner. That's the security behind the system. Domain seizures and content take downs are impossible. Anyone can post a record to the blockchain. No one can stop them. On the 2nd layer though, apps can choose what records to read from the blockchain or not. It actually becomes far easier to identify bad content because lists of 'bad actor' addresses can also be put on the blockchain for any other apps to reference. What will happen in reality is that while no one can be taken down, if something is terrible, 99.999% of apps won't show it. Just like the current system. If something is controversial, but lots of people want to see it. It will be impossible to suppress. It relies on the popularity of the content. Decentralized websites are far better tools for pro-social behavior like free speech protesting. Far worse for anti-social behavior like making money from crime because apps and users will want to share the former with the network, not the latter.

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

This idea reminds me of PayPal.me and them allowing people to get things like PayPal.me/deposit. It hasn’t went well or better yet, isn’t needed.

When people want to send funds via PayPal, they use an email address. Nobody asks what your cute PayPal.me address is.

Agreed. Paypal names were pointless. They already have human readable names - email addresses. Our human readable names are self custody. Gmail can't take away your account, no one can. And the same address can be used inside of multiple apps, not just your one gmail client. It's like having a paypal or venmo account that you completely control.

 

[Keith]

Agreed. Paypal names were pointless. They already have human readable names - email addresses. Our human readable names are self custody. Gmail can't take away your account, no one can. And the same address can be used inside of multiple apps, not just your one gmail client. It's like having a paypal or venmo account that you completely control.

But just like email addresses, we already have crypto payment addresses. No difference there. The ability to pronounce or not pronounce something doesn’t make it less credible.

To me this is a case of trying to reinvent the wheel but who knows...

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

But just like email addresses, we already have crypto payment addresses. No difference there. The ability to pronounce or not pronounce something doesn’t make it less credible.

To me this is a case of trying to reinvent the wheel but who knows...

Crypto addresses don't currently have human readable names. That's what we're trying to change. Here's what I would currently share with you if I want you to pay me in crypto -
ethereum: 0x020e7c546B1567FfC7f6202Ca5F748533523dADc
bitcoin: 1EVt92qQnaLDcmVFtHivRJaunG2mf2C3mB

Instead I could attach all of my addresses to brad.crypto. I could have hundreds of them. I tell you the domain, and you type it into a wallet and pay me. You don't need to ask me to send you an address or addresses. We don't even need to decide on which currency you want to send me because my domain has been configured with all of the currencies that I am willing to receive.

 

[Not a robot]

Selling to a good actor — bad content will be 99.99% blocked

Selling to a bad actor — your content cannot be censored, 100% guarantee

Either you are a good salesperson, or you think the domaining industry is full of shady businesspeople with no moral principles

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

Selling to a good actor — bad content will be 99.99% blocked

Selling to a bad actor — your content cannot be censored, 100% guarantee

Either you are a good salesperson, or you think the domaining industry is full of shady businesspeople with no moral principles

We think that the world is full of censorship. And that there's growing authoritarianism around the world. And that the centralization of data is used by these authoritarians to further censor and control their citizens. And that companies like Facebook have too much data and that data and control needs to be given to individuals. And that technology like blockchain domains can help free people from censorship. And that this needs to happen as soon as possible. Anyway, agree to disagree though

 

[Keith]

Crypto addresses don't currently have human readable names. That's what we're trying to change. Here's what I would currently share with you if I want you to pay me in crypto -
ethereum: 0x020e7c546B1567FfC7f6202Ca5F748533523dADc
bitcoin: 1EVt92qQnaLDcmVFtHivRJaunG2mf2C3mB

Instead I could attach all of my addresses to brad.crypto.

Brad.crypto is exactly what I’d avoid for crypto payments. The long address is far more likely to result in a successful payment.

The entire idea of crypto is off grid, anonymous, blah blah... putting a clear cut stamp on your funding source is not good.

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

Brad.crypto is exactly what I’d avoid for crypto payments. The long address is far more likely to result in a successful payment.

The entire idea of crypto is off grid, anonymous, blah blah... putting a clear cut stamp on your funding source is not good.

You could get secretcat22 then. No need to use your name if you don't want to

 

[garptrader]

Why are we debating potential pitfalls of development on blockchain domains when the vast majority of domains held by investors are merely held for resale? Who here is serious about developing a website using special browser extensions few people will use? If you have no cryptocurrency holdings, do not register dozens of .crypto domains thinking you can resell them for 100x cost. How often do domain flips for 100x cost happen with alternative extensions? While there may be a few unique cases where a website would want to launch on a decentralized platform, the primary use case of these domains is as a wallet address shortener. I do not really see much potential of an aftermarket for .crypto domains. Think about it - what is the typical portfolio turn in most extensions even where the keyword could be used to launch a business? Most businesses just opt for inferior domain choices rather than pay for an aftermarket domain. However, if you have multiple wallets, these address shorteners can be very useful for facilitating transfers (manually typing in a long wallet address when it is your money being transferred can be stressful).

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

Why are we debating potential pitfalls of development on blockchain domains when the vast majority of domains held by investors are merely held for resale? Who here is serious about developing a website using special browser extensions few people will use? If you have no cryptocurrency holdings, do not register dozens of .crypto domains thinking you can resell them for 100x cost. How often do domain flips for 100x cost happen with alternative extensions? While there may be a few unique cases where a website would want to launch on a decentralized platform, the primary use case of these domains is as a wallet address shortener. I do not really see much potential of an aftermarket for .crypto domains. Think about it - what is the typical portfolio turn in most extensions even where the keyword could be used to launch a business? Most businesses just opt for inferior domain choices rather than pay for an aftermarket domain. However, if you have multiple wallets, these address shorteners can be very useful for facilitating transfers (manually typing in a long wallet address when it is your money being transferred can be stressful).

I agree that the payment use case is important. It's a big problem in the crypto community. But I think that the decentralized web is much bigger. And I do think people will be using them for websites soon. We haven't even launched an easy web builder yet, and we already have 200+ websites created by enthusiasts with hundreds more launching soon. People across the crypto world as well as folks that worry about censorship internationally, seem quite excited about this type of internet. They don't mind using browser extensions, which they already use as crypto wallets anyway. Beyond that, we'll start to see browser support soon I think.
In regards to speculation, I'm not sure how that will play out. I think that just like a .com domain early on, the best way to make it valuable is to get traffic coming to it.

 

[oskaaay]

Hi NamePros,

We’re announcing the launch of the .crypto domain extension on 12/11. 50,000 domains have already been registered. Go to https://unstoppabledomains.com/?ref=namepros to find available domains.

You’ve probably all heard about cryptocurrency, but may not be aware that new domain extensions are being launched on blockchains. These domains are not part of the ICANN system. They are stored by the owner, with their private key, not by a registrar like Godaddy. No one can transfer a domain or update it other than the owner. If you store website content on decentralized storage instead of Amazon Web Services, then no one can take down your website other than you.

A blockchain domain + Decentralized storage = An uncensorable website

This is the beginning of an entirely new internet built to protect free speech around the world.


Blockchain domain features

• No Renewals - Pay once and it’s yours ... forever
  
  
• No Custodian - Domains are stored by the owner. No third party can move or update them
  
  
• Payments - The domain can be used as a payment address for cryptocurrencies. Send Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, or any other currency all to the same domain
  
  
• Uncensorable Websites - Attach domains to content on decentralized storage and create an uncensorable website
  
  
• Transfers - Escrow agents aren’t needed. Transfer to anyone in the world in under 1 minute with no risk of being defrauded

We’ll be moderating this thread and we’d love to hear your thoughts!


Brad Kam, Co-founder

This is a promoted post.​

Can't just help but check out the link. Am a good supporter and investor into Blockchain and crypto projects. This is unique and indeed unstoppable. Decentralization is the way to go!!!

 

[Internet.Domains]

Can't just help but check out the link. Am a good supporter and investor into Blockchain and crypto projects. This is unique and indeed unstoppable. Decentralization is the way to go!!!

Go grab a .crypto.....I grabbed another one today.

 

[oskaaay]

Go grab a .crypto.....I grabbed another one today.

Did some search but couldn't get the price per domain just on whitelist option. Hopefully to check back when fully launched.

 

[BrandPlease]

There is always a need for alternatives to (the main) options, look at what youtube can do at will.
New ideas create new markets and drive innovation.
Look forward to watching and seeing how this progresses - & need to better understand before "investing".

But one thing that always has to be kept in mind, there really isn't any "censorship protected" anything, anywhere, anytime. Sometimes overthink the reality - if you have a protected site that a Gov doesnt want you to see - they will shut down the internet - oh mobile - they will shut off the power. So, although we fell there are "gov safe zones" and untouchable zones... Are there really?

With that said - innovative alternative (primary and/or backup) services are vital (IMO) to keep the internet a bit more free. Thanks for the work you guys are sharing with us here and being responsive to the questions.

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

There is always a need for alternatives to (the main) options, look at what youtube can do at will.
New ideas create new markets and drive innovation.
Look forward to watching and seeing how this progresses - & need to better understand before "investing".

But one thing that always has to be kept in mind, there really isn't any "censorship protected" anything, anywhere, anytime. Sometimes overthink the reality - if you have a protected site that a Gov doesnt want you to see - they will shut down the internet - oh mobile - they will shut off the power. So, although we fell there are "gov safe zones" and untouchable zones... Are there really?

With that said - innovative alternative (primary and/or backup) services are vital (IMO) to keep the internet a bit more free. Thanks for the work you guys are sharing with us here and being responsive to the questions.

A better term for the security of a blockchain system vs. a traditional system is self custody. You control the domain and do not need to depend on the future actions or even the viability of the registry. Your domains will continue to work even if the registry ceases to exist. And because domains have no renewal fee, you don't need to worry about price hikes from the registry either.

A blockchain domain would have prevented this from happening in Catalonia: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/09/cat-domain-casualty-catalonian-independence-crackdown

You're right that a lot of censorship happens at the ISP level - or even the electric grid level. But if you remove the ability to do seizures of domains and take downs of websites, then those moves are temporary and only impact specific people for a certain period of time. Eventually, those people will get back online and the website will still be on the decentralized web for them to see once they're back.

 

[manpreet]

Not sure if this is the reason (.crypto) for the decline in sales of Crypto related .com domain names, or its the overall Crypto domains market already gone down (in that case a bad news for to-be-launched .crypto)...maybe other experts can also comment and give their views on this.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Not sure if this is the reason (.crypto) for the decline in sales of Crypto related .com domain names, or its the overall Crypto domains market already gone down (in that case a bad news for to-be-launched .crypto)...maybe other experts can also comment and give their views on this.

I am not sure I can agree that crypto related domain sales are in decline. Possibly the keyword "crypto" may show some up and down movement, but crypto related companies are behind numerous great domain sales this year.

If you believe in the decentralized web and its future, it's hard to imagine a better extension than .crypto emerging.

While the anti ICANN crowd is rallying to stop the .org sale due to prices, you can buy a slice of the future and own it for life.

 

[manpreet]

I am not sure I can agree that crypto related domain sales are in decline. Possibly the keyword "crypto" may show some up and down movement, but crypto related companies are behind numerous great domain sales this year.

If you believe in the decentralized web and its future, it's hard to imagine a better extension than .crypto emerging.

While the anti ICANN crowd is rallying to stop the .org sale due to prices, you can buy a slice of the future and own it for life.

I agree to the power of the term "Crypto" itself, I am not denying that. I am myself a believer thats why had one of its biggest portfolio at one time, around 600 .com domains containing the word Crypto alone.

But what I am trying to understand is the impact of launch of .crypto TLD to the .com/net/org/other extensions containing the Term of TLD (Crypto) in the domain name itself.

I think it might have affected or will further effect. As regarding to the sales, you can easily see the difference by comparing the sales this year with those of last two years. I am sure anyone else investing in Crypto domains can also tell about the decline in offers/sales this year 2019 as compared to the last two years 2017-2018.

 

[CJ6]

I think it's illogical for the ICANN system to invite such chaos if a domain extension is already in use across the world. And if they do, apps can still ignore them. And cryptocurrency wallets are starting to add browser functionality to their apps as well. it's dangerous to have two systems at once, ours will have already wide use, and ours will be an actual blockchain system, unlike an ICANN .crypto.

I think it is a smart thing to do... to go on the defense and try to get .crypto from ICANN, when it's possible.
(If you succeed, you can yell, I CAN!") .... OK, that was bad.

 

[Internet.Domains]

(If you succeed, you can yell, I CAN!") .... OK, that was bad.

good one!

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

I agree to the power of the term "Crypto" itself, I am not denying that. I am myself a believer thats why had one of its biggest portfolio at one time, around 600 .com domains containing the word Crypto alone.

But what I am trying to understand is the impact of launch of .crypto TLD to the .com/net/org/other extensions containing the Term of TLD (Crypto) in the domain name itself.

I think it might have affected or will further effect. As regarding to the sales, you can easily see the difference by comparing the sales this year with those of last two years. I am sure anyone else investing in Crypto domains can also tell about the decline in offers/sales this year 2019 as compared to the last two years 2017-2018.

I'm going to bet that the two aren't super correlated because blockchain domain systems like .crypto are quite different than .com domains. Decentralized apps and news sites are able to use the domains to build websites that aren't subject to domain seizures or website take downs. That on top of the domain also being able to receive money means that the reason to buy a .crypto domain is quite different than the reason to buy a .com domain that relates to crypto or blockchain.

 

[manpreet]

I'm going to bet that the two are super correlated because blockchain domain systems like .crypto are quite different than .com domains. Decentralized apps and news sites are able to use the domains to build websites that aren't subject to domain seizures or website take downs. That on top of the domain also being able to receive money means that the reason to buy a .crypto domain is quite different than the reason to buy a .com domain that relates to crypto or blockchain.

Yes agreed.

 

[Unstoppable Domains]

Yes agreed.

Sorry are NOT super correlated

 

[manpreet]

Sorry are NOT super correlated

Yes ofcourse I had understood you missed the "not" in the first line