.co .co Selling Higher Than .net? Hope Is In the Numbers

[Archangel]

I’ve heard a mini-discussion on .co’s in another area of this forum. “This extension is not ‘picking up’ based on what I'm seeing. I would recommend avoiding this ccTLD altogether.” I’m not picking on the guy who posted this but I think he might be really suffering from this belief. Many likely are, thinking that everything that isn’t .com is a gamble. Here, boys and girls, is some truth about .co. See, it's not what you believe. It's the facts that matter. And the facts are as they are:

In 2012, 99 .co's were reported via dnsalesprice.com to have been sold. Figures can be seen below:

HaHa.co $1,000
Strum.co $1,000
WOD.co $4,160
ISearch.co $1,999
PLT.co $1,100
Wool.co $3,500
Employee.co $2,000
Exchanger.co $1,350
QPS.co $1,870
Wood.co $7,000
Engineering.co $13,000
Farm.co $8,000
Hee.co $1,500
Nina.co $1,750
Tuscany.co $4,000
ODP.co $1,200
DMZ.co $1,250
ESL.co $3,870
Need.co $5,000
IsHot.co $4,000
Seed.co $15,000
IsHot.co $4,000
Cruises.co $82,500
TNC.co $1,500
Rocket.co $16,000
Roads.co $6,666
Badger.co $1,000
WCG.co $1,888
Turn.co $1,250
SOK.co $1,500
Bison.co $2,826
TackBoards.co $1,000
DSG.co $3,788
Sugar.co $30,000
MNG.co $1,198
Palace.co $1,250
FilmMakers.co $1,200
Myn.co $1,350
Wandern.co $2,394
Exceed.co $1,572
Orbit.co $7,500
Minder.co $2,196
Easy.co $10,500
Silo.co $2,000
Hail.co $1,783
OptionsTrading.co $4,200
Jewelry.co $24,000
XES.co $1,750
Flexible.co $2,825
Mirror.co $11,000
PopO.co $2,050
Socially.co $1,100
Cigarettes.co $7,000
Lactalis.co $1,032
DutyFree.co $1,100
Hallway.co $1,150
JuegosDeCocina.co $3,000
Ignite.co $1,000
Brit.co $4,750
MeMe.co $1,495
Ludwig.co $3,266
Theme.co $3,400
RGH.co $1,200
Cuando.co $1,000
ChildCare.co $14,000
BSF.co $2,000
AssistedLiving.co $1,500
Cometas.co $1,023
Mobster.co $5,000
FLC.co $1,088
OnlinePoker.co $22,000
LoveIt.co $1,000
BFA.co $1,700
Authentic.co $3,250
Neuro.co $1,000
Mev.co $2,905
ChurchOfGod.co $3,188
MesotheliomaLawyer.co $10,300
MesotheliomaAttorney.co $10,300
AccidentClaims.co $1,050
DomainTools.co $2,500
Kidz.co $1,450
Wear.co $1,800
League.co $2,700
MeeticAffinity.co $2,580
SkiVacations.co $1,500
Dolphin.co $48,000
Jelly.co $2,550
Arise.co $2,500
SteelTech.co $2,000
Papa.co $1,000
ManualLinkBuilding.co $1,000
Safe.co $2,800
Gutschein.co $1,905
Sum.co $1,000
Tone.co $1,050
Hawk.co $2,600
Equity.co $1,800
Stereo.co $1,750

The average selling price for each of these is $5,157. Now, as a comparison, let’s look at the last 99 reported .net sales. Com would be unfair, as it’s the “king.” .net is good fodder for a comparison:

MobiCash.net $4,902
OpenSocial.net $2,500
PRIO.net $2,999
BedsDirect.net $1,277
CareerCoach.net $1,350
Kreator.net $1,200
PingDom.net $1,000
RichMan.net $1,500
LEBA.net $2,357
BitBase.net $2,388
Itec.net $4,000
Optimise.net $2,500
Purview.net $2,588
SiteAnalytics.net $3,688
StarSystems.net $2,388
SupportPoint.net $3,000
TryIt.net $2,000
XSoft.net $8,288
CallIt.net $1,682
GreenAir.net $1,475
ProjectSuccess.net $1,088
Publik.net $1,550
SuperFilm.net $1,588
TagungsHotel.net $1,250
Tord.net $1,151
Trilux.net $1,044
VRMS.net $1,316
XMob.net $1,315
Zetec.net $1,357
Mercantile.net $2,100
CarPaymentCalculator.net $2,500
Calling.net $4,500
Comparar.net $10,240
Irlanda.net $3,200
LiveCasinoTv.net $6,400
YTH.net $9,888
BringItOn.net $1,988
DropOut.net $3,500
MedicareAdvocacy.net $2,188
ExportControls.net $1,500
JCAP.net $1,511
LawPay.net $1,277
Monographic.net $1,354
OEIS.net $1,188
Orbiter.net $1,100
TelecomSystems.net $1,500
ThriftStore.net $1,788
WorkClub.net $1,488
BrandHouse.net $2,800
Empirical.net $1,540
Finnegans.net $1,000
InternationalCall.net $5,000
ManufacturedHomes.net $14,000
PlayScape.net $1,750
Freundschaft.net $2,661
CreditCardMachines.net $1,977
EDomain.net $2,588
Fawaz.net $2,388
InTime.net $3,220
InternationalCalls.net $4,388
LDLC.net $2,388
LeonardoDaVinci.net $2,250
PeopleFinders.net $10,800
SecurityFinance.net $3,688
TelephoneCards.net $2,332
TennisTv.net $3,688
Agnello.net $1,000
Appso.net $1,250
BaptistHealthJobs.net $1,477
BizSolution.net $1,100
Jamming.net $1,500
MayanPalace.net $1,288
Medidata.net $1,488
SeoPro.net $1,750
TheRefinery.net $1,888
TranceMusic.net $1,000
WinNovation.net $1,200
PNB.net $2,905
Cyon.net $2,000
IMUSE.net $3,500
MobiCash.net $4,902
OpenSocial.net $2,500
PRIO.net $2,999
BedsDirect.net $1,277
CareerCoach.net $1,350
Kreator.net $1,200
PingDom.net $1,000
RichMan.net $1,500
LEBA.net $2,357
BitBase.net $2,388
Itec.net $4,000
Optimise.net $2,500
Purview.net $2,588
SiteAnalytics.net $3,688
StarSystems.net $2,388
SupportPoint.net $3,000
TryIt.net $2,000
XSoft.net $8,288
CallIt.net $1,682

Their average selling price? $2,700 each.

There are many factors that make a domain valuable. But there is too much evidence that .co is becoming a name of value. If you have a generic-term .co or perhaps a triple-premium LLL.co, consider paying that extra $10 or so for renewal fee. .co will likely never become .com but it’s selling like a mini-champ. I think it’s looking up--so far, there are no signs of its fall, if one’ll ever occur.

Edit: just to conclude: I'm saying that .nets sell more (99 .co's in 2012 vs 99 .nets in just a few months) BUT .co looks to be selling for better prices. And seeing as .co is easy to find @ NP, you should pick a few up--as long as they're decent.

 

[MicroGuy]

I’ve heard a mini-discussion on .co’s in another area of this forum. “This extension is not ‘picking up’ based on what I'm seeing. I would recommend avoiding this ccTLD altogether.” I’m not picking on the guy who posted this but I think he might be really suffering from this belief. Many likely are, thinking that everything that isn’t .com is a gamble. Here, boys and girls, is some truth about .co. See, it's not what you believe. It's the facts that matter. And the facts are as they are:

In 2012, 99 .co's were reported via dnsalesprice.com to have been sold. Figures can be seen below:

HaHa.co $1,000
Strum.co $1,000
WOD.co $4,160
ISearch.co $1,999
PLT.co $1,100
Wool.co $3,500
Employee.co $2,000
Exchanger.co $1,350
QPS.co $1,870
Wood.co $7,000
Engineering.co $13,000
Farm.co $8,000
Hee.co $1,500
Nina.co $1,750
Tuscany.co $4,000
ODP.co $1,200
DMZ.co $1,250
ESL.co $3,870
Need.co $5,000
IsHot.co $4,000
Seed.co $15,000
IsHot.co $4,000
Cruises.co $82,500
TNC.co $1,500
Rocket.co $16,000
Roads.co $6,666
Badger.co $1,000
WCG.co $1,888
Turn.co $1,250
SOK.co $1,500
Bison.co $2,826
TackBoards.co $1,000
DSG.co $3,788
Sugar.co $30,000
MNG.co $1,198
Palace.co $1,250
FilmMakers.co $1,200
Myn.co $1,350
Wandern.co $2,394
Exceed.co $1,572
Orbit.co $7,500
Minder.co $2,196
Easy.co $10,500
Silo.co $2,000
Hail.co $1,783
OptionsTrading.co $4,200
Jewelry.co $24,000
XES.co $1,750
Flexible.co $2,825
Mirror.co $11,000
PopO.co $2,050
Socially.co $1,100
Cigarettes.co $7,000
Lactalis.co $1,032
DutyFree.co $1,100
Hallway.co $1,150
JuegosDeCocina.co $3,000
Ignite.co $1,000
Brit.co $4,750
MeMe.co $1,495
Ludwig.co $3,266
Theme.co $3,400
RGH.co $1,200
Cuando.co $1,000
ChildCare.co $14,000
BSF.co $2,000
AssistedLiving.co $1,500
Cometas.co $1,023
Mobster.co $5,000
FLC.co $1,088
OnlinePoker.co $22,000
LoveIt.co $1,000
BFA.co $1,700
Authentic.co $3,250
Neuro.co $1,000
Mev.co $2,905
ChurchOfGod.co $3,188
MesotheliomaLawyer.co $10,300
MesotheliomaAttorney.co $10,300
AccidentClaims.co $1,050
DomainTools.co $2,500
Kidz.co $1,450
Wear.co $1,800
League.co $2,700
MeeticAffinity.co $2,580
SkiVacations.co $1,500
Dolphin.co $48,000
Jelly.co $2,550
Arise.co $2,500
SteelTech.co $2,000
Papa.co $1,000
ManualLinkBuilding.co $1,000
Safe.co $2,800
Gutschein.co $1,905
Sum.co $1,000
Tone.co $1,050
Hawk.co $2,600
Equity.co $1,800
Stereo.co $1,750

The average selling price for each of these is $5,157. Now, as a comparison, let’s look at the last 99 reported .net sales. Com would be unfair, as it’s the “king.” .net is good fodder for a comparison:

MobiCash.net $4,902
OpenSocial.net $2,500
PRIO.net $2,999
BedsDirect.net $1,277
CareerCoach.net $1,350
Kreator.net $1,200
PingDom.net $1,000
RichMan.net $1,500
LEBA.net $2,357
BitBase.net $2,388
Itec.net $4,000
Optimise.net $2,500
Purview.net $2,588
SiteAnalytics.net $3,688
StarSystems.net $2,388
SupportPoint.net $3,000
TryIt.net $2,000
XSoft.net $8,288
CallIt.net $1,682
GreenAir.net $1,475
ProjectSuccess.net $1,088
Publik.net $1,550
SuperFilm.net $1,588
TagungsHotel.net $1,250
Tord.net $1,151
Trilux.net $1,044
VRMS.net $1,316
XMob.net $1,315
Zetec.net $1,357
Mercantile.net $2,100
CarPaymentCalculator.net $2,500
Calling.net $4,500
Comparar.net $10,240
Irlanda.net $3,200
LiveCasinoTv.net $6,400
YTH.net $9,888
BringItOn.net $1,988
DropOut.net $3,500
MedicareAdvocacy.net $2,188
ExportControls.net $1,500
JCAP.net $1,511
LawPay.net $1,277
Monographic.net $1,354
OEIS.net $1,188
Orbiter.net $1,100
TelecomSystems.net $1,500
ThriftStore.net $1,788
WorkClub.net $1,488
BrandHouse.net $2,800
Empirical.net $1,540
Finnegans.net $1,000
InternationalCall.net $5,000
ManufacturedHomes.net $14,000
PlayScape.net $1,750
Freundschaft.net $2,661
CreditCardMachines.net $1,977
EDomain.net $2,588
Fawaz.net $2,388
InTime.net $3,220
InternationalCalls.net $4,388
LDLC.net $2,388
LeonardoDaVinci.net $2,250
PeopleFinders.net $10,800
SecurityFinance.net $3,688
TelephoneCards.net $2,332
TennisTv.net $3,688
Agnello.net $1,000
Appso.net $1,250
BaptistHealthJobs.net $1,477
BizSolution.net $1,100
Jamming.net $1,500
MayanPalace.net $1,288
Medidata.net $1,488
SeoPro.net $1,750
TheRefinery.net $1,888
TranceMusic.net $1,000
WinNovation.net $1,200
PNB.net $2,905
Cyon.net $2,000
IMUSE.net $3,500
MobiCash.net $4,902
OpenSocial.net $2,500
PRIO.net $2,999
BedsDirect.net $1,277
CareerCoach.net $1,350
Kreator.net $1,200
PingDom.net $1,000
RichMan.net $1,500
LEBA.net $2,357
BitBase.net $2,388
Itec.net $4,000
Optimise.net $2,500
Purview.net $2,588
SiteAnalytics.net $3,688
StarSystems.net $2,388
SupportPoint.net $3,000
TryIt.net $2,000
XSoft.net $8,288
CallIt.net $1,682

Their average selling price? $2,700 each.

There are many factors that make a domain valuable. But there is too much evidence that .co is becoming a name of value. If you have a generic-term .co or perhaps a triple-premium LLL.co, consider paying that extra $10 or so for renewal fee. .co will likely never become .com but it’s selling like a mini-champ. I think it’s looking up--so far, there are no signs of its fall, if one’ll ever occur.

Edit: just to conclude: I'm saying that .nets sell more (99 .co's in 2012 vs 99 .nets in just a few months) BUT .co looks to be selling for better prices. And seeing as .co is easy to find @ NP, you should pick a few up--as long as they're decent.

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[Keith]

I'm not sure this is a fair comparison since .co is still brand new while .net has stood the test of time. 2012 also had the .co auction at Sedo where some of these sold.

Lets revisit this in 2,3,4 years IMO. Interesting post though

 

[Archangel]

.co is still relatively new. I guess the point of this thread is just that .co is promising. I wouldn't recommend investing a lot into .co, no. But it might be worth it to pick up a few gems. If .co tanks, your losses wouldn't be too bad (assuming, say, 5 .co's, $20 each a year to renew, 5 years each). If trends continue, 1 of those 5 alone could repay you & then some. It's a smart investment as long as ppl don't OVER-invest ie nabbing a few hundred or thousand of them

I'm not sure this is a fair comparison since .co is still brand new while .net has stood the test of time. 2012 also had the .co auction at Sedo where some of these sold.

Lets revisit this in 2,3,4 years IMO. Interesting post though

 

[bmugford]

This is not an apples to apples comparison.

First of all way more .NET sell.

Also, the keywords above for .CO are way higher quality than the .NET.
The same keyword in .NET would sell for way more on average.

.CO also has a few outlier high dollar sales that skew the average sale price up.

Brad

 

[Archangel]

1.) I've noted that .net sells more.

2.) There is no such thing as an apples-to-oranges comparison with extensions -- no 2 are worth exactly the same as the other.

3.) The quality issue is there but you've read this thread without understanding the point. I'm not saying .net or .co is better than the other. The point is that .CO HAS SOLD FOR A DECENT SUM. Too many ppl say .co has little value when sales results say differently. The .nets above were added so as to make a comparison, something to mull over. It doesn't matter if keyword.net would have sold for more than keyword.co -- the point is that keyword.co sure as hell didn't sell for $50.

These are only reported sales and there are any smaller ones that haven't been reported. The facts are there, still: these have sold for ore than the "regfee" the vast majority think .co is.

4.) This goes with #3 but just to say: look at the figures, not just the average. There are many .nets that have sold for only $1-2. Remove the higher figures from the .co sales & their average would likely still be higher. Someone can check this if they'd like.

This is not an apples to apples comparison.

First of all way more .NET sell.

Also, the keywords above for .CO are way higher quality than the .NET.
The same keyword in .NET would sell for way more on average.

.CO also has a few outlier high dollar sales that skew the average sale price up.

Brad

 

[Keith]

If you look at .co as a whole it has little value. The reported registration number is about 1.4 million. A handful of decent sales can't possibly make it promising when you have 1.3999 million parked or fetching $xx on the aftermarket.

 

[johname]

In 2012

Here the problem.

One word landrush type of dot co are still being hustled out/ in play. One word nets are not going to be out there in the 2012 sales like the dot cos.

In other words people are: Selling Land rush co domains when they get a good offer and run.


Or in other words lol, turn both your list into dot coms and ask which list you would rather have

 

[Archangel]

I think ppl think too much of registration numbers. There are millions upon millions of .info since they're cheap. Had .co been the same price as .com, I fully guarantee there would be far higher .co numbers. They sell cheap on aftermarkets since ppl don't see the value. I have a keen eye & find decent com/net domains for a quick flip. The original owners see no value & I capitalize on that. It's the same ere except no one knows if .co will be here for the long haul. It'd be risky/dumb taking in 100+ & waiting a few years. But taking a few .co to sit on could pay off great, if you can afford the risk.

If you look at .co as a whole it has little value. The reported registration number is about 1.4 million. A handful of decent sales can't possibly make it promising when you have 1.3999 million parked or fetching $xx on the aftermarket.

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Apples-to-oranges :p

Trends do change a lot. I remember LLLL.com being $xxx things, then going to $xx months later.

Or in other words lol, turn both your list into dot coms and ask which list you would rather have

 

[Keith]

But taking a few .co to sit on could pay off great, if you can afford the risk.

I see no problem with that. It would be best to get a few great "product" .co if that's your strategy!

 

[Archangel]

This is what I'm saying. Who here would have loved to snatch a few LLL.coms loooooooong ago for $20-30? This is a "LLL.com" type opportunity. I'm not saying these are in the same class or ever will be. I'm saying: If you have the cash, pick up a few good ones to sit on. Don't give up on anything in favor of .co (that'd be horrible, dumb, and naive). But in the case that .co actually does well, might as well take a few while you can for cheap. This argument is always made for ccTLDs and are usually unfruitful. The stats I've posted are to show that there is true promise in .co, even if they're not monsters just yet (assuming they'll ever be). .cc & .ws never had a chance. But .co truly looks promising

I see no problem with that. It would be best to get a few great "product" .co if that's your strategy!

 

[Kate]

And now the other side of the coin:

• The little guy sees the reported sales and thinks: wow some people made a hefty profit - it must happen to me ! Sure it might, but the odds are slim.
• as always, the sales are the glitter that conceal the 99.9% failure rate that ordinary domainers are experiencing. Until you've been among those sellers, it's just daydream. But the registration and renewal fees that are burning a hole in your wallet are very real.
• many of these domains were not available for regfee, you had to buy them at a premium or make arrangements to claim them at sunrise. Accordingly, the actual profit is not the ultimate sales price.

Another thing to consider: .net is a very old (and mature TLD).
Domain names can be flipped several times between domainers but at some point, the good ones typically end up in the hands of end users and won't get sold ever, unless they drop.
Put it differently, the supply is slowly drying up. So that wouldn't surprise me to see fewer and fewer ./net/LLL.com/etc sold every year.

To be honest, I think the value of .net has eroded somewhat. The ccTLDs are now often the alternative to .com (if not the first choice), whereas .net used to be the natural fallback extension when the .com is taken.

I know quite a few high profile websites in .net but in .co ? Nothing.
I almost never visit .co websites, and I don't think I am alone.
There is a huge pattern of non-development in that TLD and that's reality...

IMO .co is in the same league as .us/.biz: the LLL wouldn't even sell for reg fee. There is no liquidity, you need luck. But from time to time there is a fluke. Yet there is very little built-in value in the TLD so it's more speculation than investment imo and I find that the level of risk involved doesn't offset the possible rewards

 

[Archangel]

You just nailed not .co but the entire industry: ppl see the outlandish sales & think, "Hey, I can replicate that~!" What you said about it is irrelevant in the matter of .co value since it's the same with every extension. Even I'm shocked at some of the .com sales I see. That 'side' is ruled out, as it's the same thing for every domain extension.

The rest, though, speaks true. .net is (as stated multiple times) the older, established extension. So of course ppl prefer it right now. Had they preferred .co over .net, there'd be way more reported .co sales.

I'm not a big ccTLD advocate by any means. And yes, these are big .co sales (or big-ish at least) but there were only 99 reported in all 2012. It's not like that (perceivable) valuable .co will sell for a decent sum in 2013. Things like this extension are good for long-term investments (small ones ie 1-5 domains for most ppl) but not quick flips. 99 reported sales in a year isn't the promising thing this thread mentioned. The fact that these sold decently is.

And now the other side of the coin:

• The little guy sees the reported sales and thinks: wow some people made a hefty profit - it must happen to me ! Sure it might, but the odds are slim.
• as always, the sales are the glitter that conceal the 99.9% failure rate that ordinary domainers are experiencing. Until you've been among those sellers, it's just daydream. But the registration and renewal fees that are burning a hole in your wallet are very real.
• many of these domains were not available for regfee, you had to buy them at a premium or make arrangements to claim them at sunrise. Accordingly, the actual profit is not the ultimate sales price.

Another thing to consider: .net is a very old (and mature TLD).
Domain names can be flipped several times between domainers but at some point, the good ones typically end up in the hands of end users and won't get sold ever, unless they drop.
Put it differently, the supply is slowly drying up. So that wouldn't surprise me to see fewer and fewer ./net/LLL.com/etc sold every year.

To be honest, I think the value of .net has eroded somewhat. The ccTLDs are now often the alternative to .com (if not the first choice), whereas .net used to be the natural fallback extension when the .com is taken.

I know quite a few high profile websites in .net but in .co ? Nothing.
I almost never visit .co websites, and I don't think I am alone.
There is a huge pattern of non-development in that TLD and that's reality...

IMO .co is in the same league as .us/.biz: the LLL wouldn't even sell for reg fee. There is no liquidity, you need luck. But from time to time there is a fluke. Yet there is very little built-in value in the TLD so it's more speculation than investment imo and I find that the level of risk involved doesn't offset the possible rewards

 

[MicroGuy]

This is the type of extension where you have to get in early and then get out quick. After the first couple of years it goes flat and then starts to decline.

Things like this extension are good for long-term investments

I believe history clearly shows that the exact opposite is true.

 

[Archangel]

Good possibility, hence at me saying it's only good for a SMALL investment. Unless you're millionaire & could afford to take a huge gamble

This is the type of extension where you have to get in early and then get out quick. After the first couple of years it goes flat and then starts to decline.



I believe history clearly shows that the exact opposite is true.

 

[mjnels]

you could show this same kind of list with .mobi's at one time.

 

[MicroGuy]

Good possibility, hence at me saying it's only good for a SMALL investment. Unless you're millionaire & could afford to take a huge gamble

At this point in the game, the best strategy would be a quick exit strategy regardless of investment amount. This is certainly no time to be putting money into the TLD. Making a bad bet never makes sense.

 

[Archangel]

I can't recall the .mobi "craze" lasting a year. I sold a LLL.mobi for maybe $150. But in about a year, LLL.mobi's were avail for hand reg. .co's been around & kept value longer than .mobi had.

you could show this same kind of list with .mobi's at one time.

Speculation: You are THINKING this is a bad bet with no proof--only speculation ie "the past" with other extensions. You haven't any proof to back it up, thus it's an opinion nd not fact that .co is a bad investment. ppl used to think verb.me's were pretty stupid & thought they were "bad investments." Try to buy a verb.me these days for reg fee, aside frm long, obscure verbs. This is all speculation from all sides. No one knows how .co will end, even if some ppl ie you have assumptions.

Your ideas are kinda scary. I'd believe you, if I only had $20 a year to set aside. Is there anything wrong with setting aside say, $80? Would it make you broke spending $80 a year? Domaining is a gamble & I'm not so poor that I can't afford a little gamble. No one here should be. I recently acquired AEN.co, a gorgeous LLL.com. And I really don' care if ppl think it's a waste - you have my unconditional guarantee that it will never drop as long as it's in my hands.

If buying $20 worth of scratch-off lottery tickets a year isn't considered a bad thing financially--you'd likely win about $2 from them all--then setting aside a few .co's isn't a bad thing,

Since ppl aren't getting the point of this thread, I' closing it up. Happy investing everyone

At this point in the game, the best strategy would be a quick exit strategy regardless of investment amount. This is certainly no time to be putting money into the TLD. Making a bad bet never makes sense.