域名|Chinese Perspective

[Kassey Lee]

I believe only short and easy-to-remember domain names are sustainable, regardless of where in the world you live and which cultural background you come from.

Now that the Chinese domain market has become a hot topic, I myself want to understand this trend too. Is there any real meaning behind each domain name sold in China? Here, I'd like to share with you what I've found as I read the Chinese news everyday.

GZX.com
GZX can stand for 更自信 (even more self-confident) which can be used in many fields such as education, self-help, and even consumer products to raise your self image.

XLY.com
XLY can stand for 夏令营 (summer camp) or 新领域 (new field) which can be used in recreation and high-tech products.

New: Follow my blog posts on NamePros for updates.

 

[Kassey Lee]

@ChinaMobi Thanks for the ongoing insights throughout this thread.Can i ask your thoughts on DNL8.com
Google translate is saying - 8 years- is this accurate?and any other meaning you know of.thanks

I'm glad you enjoy my posts. Thank you!

DNL8:电脑乐吧>Computer fun bar

I like it. In fact, I like LLLN but not NNNL/NNLL/NLLL because I believe you'll find more end users with their company name matching LLL than, say, NNN.

Good luck with your domain name!

 

[TRY]

Do many Chinese people know the English spelling of their name?
For example if someone was named Chung would it be difficult for him to go to Chung.com?
Many Chinese names in English contain vowels is that a problem?

 

[Haris]

How to find meaning of Chinese words(revised)

1. Acronym. Example: DJDDP

1. Visit Google Translate.
2. In source box, enter acronym letters one by one and see Chinese word suggestion below box changes as you type.
3. Check result (大酒店点评>Hotel Reviews).

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I can't see any suggestion box. Please assist.

And what can 55EQ mean?

 

[Kassey Lee]

Market Watch Transaction Date: 2015.12.10


Numerics

3N	1,758,888 (=)	58,888 (=)	11,888 (=)	45,000 (v)
4N	128,888 (=)	5,380 (=)	999 (=)	2,990 (v)
5N	4,700 (=)	180 (^)	55 (v)	359 (v)
6N	104 (v)	52 (v)	55 (=)	130 (=)

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Numerics w/o 04

3N	3,500,000 (=)	148,888 (=)	27,888 (=)	125,678 (=)
4N	368,000 (=)	14,888 (=)	3,000 (=)	12,888 (=)
5N	23,588 (=)	1,399 (v)	285 (v)	2,377 (v)
6N	1,050 (v)	100 (=)	55 (v)	758 (=)

[th][td]com[/td][td]net[/td][td]org[/td][td]cc[/td][/th]

Initials, Letters, and Characters

3I	999,999 (=)	33,000 (^)	12,880 (v)	17,658 (=)
3L	388,888 (=)	15,988 (=)	12,880 (=)	2,888 (v)
3C	6,666 (=)	258 (=)	51 (=)	200 (=)
4I	13,998 (^)	1,549 (^)	140 (v)	582 (^)
4L	2,106 (^)	96 (v)	65 (=)	200 (=)

[th][td]com[/td][td]net[/td][td]org[/td][td]cc[/td][/th]

Currency: RMB
Prices: Highest BIN prices of day
Symbols: ^ increase, v decrease, = no change (or no sales?) over previous day
C=L+N. I =Initials
Source: Chaomi.cc

 

[Konga]

Market Watch Transaction Date: 2015.12.10


Numerics

3N	1,758,888 (=)	58,888 (=)	11,888 (=)	45,000 (v)
4N	128,888 (=)	5,380 (=)	999 (=)	2,990 (v)
5N	4,700 (=)	180 (^)	55 (v)	359 (v)
6N	104 (v)	52 (v)	55 (=)	130 (=)

[th][td]com[/td][td]net[/td][td]org[/td][td]cc[/td][/th]

Numerics w/o 04

3N	3,500,000 (=)	148,888 (=)	27,888 (=)	125,678 (=)
4N	368,000 (=)	14,888 (=)	3,000 (=)	12,888 (=)
5N	23,588 (=)	1,399 (v)	285 (v)	2,377 (v)
6N	1,050 (v)	100 (=)	55 (v)	758 (=)

[th][td]com[/td][td]net[/td][td]org[/td][td]cc[/td][/th]

Initials, Letters, and Characters

3I	999,999 (=)	33,000 (^)	12,880 (v)	17,658 (=)
3L	388,888 (=)	15,988 (=)	12,880 (=)	2,888 (v)
3C	6,666 (=)	258 (=)	51 (=)	200 (=)
4I	13,998 (^)	1,549 (^)	140 (v)	582 (^)
4L	2,106 (^)	96 (v)	65 (=)	200 (=)

[th][td]com[/td][td]net[/td][td]org[/td][td]cc[/td][/th]

Currency: RMB
Prices: Highest BIN prices of day
Symbols: ^ increase, v decrease, = no change (or no sales?) over previous day
C=L+N. I =Initials
Source: Chaomi.cc

I have to admit ChinaMobi you are one of the most helpful members here. Respect

 

[Kassey Lee]

In a recent interview, successful domain investor Zheng Feng YANG gave the following comments.

• His end-user customers are willing to spend 5 to 6 figures RMB to get a domain name that enables them to punch above their weight.
• He likes 3I in the .cn, .net, and .com extensions.
• He always invests in domain names that can be used by end users. For this reason, he does not like numerics. He thinks 3I has the largest market, as many corporate trademarks use 3I or 3L. 3-word pinyin is too long, he added.

Source: news.ename.cn

 

[Kassey Lee]

Yong Dong XIE has been involved in the domaining circle for 12 years. He specializes in big data analysis of domain names. In a recent interview, he shared some of his experiences and viewpoints with readers.

• When it comes to domain investment, his advice is not to invest blindly but to understand the three attributes of domain name: end user application, investment value, and memorability.
• In terms of portfolio acquisition of numerics, he does not see any future in 7N and beyond. 5N and 6N are acceptable if they can be hand-regged.
• He thinks it's possible extensions other than .com may rise up, but the chance is not great. It depends on how the registry runs the business and nurtures their market.
• He has seen a change of attitude in those who participated in the domaining game. In the beginning, domain name was considered as a way to connect to the Internet, but now it's valued as a brand. Businesses now pay serious attention to domain names.
• Will participation by the masses come? Xie believes so, and domain name will be seen as a financial asset.

Source: news.ename.cn

 

[Kassey Lee]

0 and 4 still sell.

Look at the Dec 8 eName auction in the "others" category listing 3C domain names sold.

1. GC9.com 12k RMB
2. GH4.com 7k
3. F0Q.com 2k

The best one is a 9. But 4 and 0, though of less value, still have value.

Source: news.ename.cn

 

[Kassey Lee]

4L flipping

Investor Shan Ren (nickname?) recently sold three 4Ls (8285.com, 8582.com, 7199.com) and then also bought more than 10 4Ls for close to 2m RMB.

Shan Ren flips 4Ls regularly, and the latest acquisition includes 8365.com, 3225.com, and 2378.com. Most of them feature 6, 8, or 9 -- lucky numbers favored by Chinese. No 0 and 4. These numbers have better quality than the average 4Ls.

Earlier, he sold 3952.com for 230k RMB and 3829.com for 210k. He feels 4Ls are stable in prices and many buyers are willing to spend that amount of money. These names will certainly rise in value, he added.

Currently, the market price of 4Ls without 0 and 4 is 230k RMB or above, and better quality names can command even higher prices. Some examples are 2271.com (mid 6), 9394.com (mid 6), and 1117.com (7 figures).

4Ls are liquid and have great investment and application values. They can be used to build gaming, navigation, and lottery sites. Recently, YY Game launched a new gaming platform on 4366.com

Source: news.ename.cn

 

[Kassey Lee]

Interview with Wilson Guo Xin CHEN, the college student who bought 73.com for more than 10m RMB.

Here are some interesting things I find in the interview.

• Wilson is a student at University of New South Wales (Australia).
• His began domaining end of 2013.
• His current focus is 3I and 4I. He particularly likes 4Is because they are quite low in prices so have great potential for appreciation.
• Some domain names in his 3I collection include FZS.com (福州市>Fuzhou city), XTQ.com (小提琴>violin) and QCD.com (汽车贷>Car loan).
• He thinks domain investment requires the ability to overcome the feeling of loneliness and the temptation to sell too early. And, you must be able to act decisively. Wilson lost the opportunity to buy the excellent DKJ.com (贷款家>Lender) because he hesitated.
• He owns only .com names but feels .cn has potential. He has no opinion on other extensions because he does not understand them.

Source: www.admin5.com

 

[Kassey Lee]

I have to admit ChinaMobi you are one of the most helpful members here. Respect

I sometimes wonder if I'm wasting my time. Are NP folks really benefiting from my daily posts of Chinese domain news? It seems these posts have failed to trigger much discussion in this thread.

But, thank you for your generous encouragement. Your kind words are very much appreciated and valued.

 

[Kassey Lee]

Do many Chinese people know the English spelling of their name?
For example if someone was named Chung would it be difficult for him to go to Chung.com?
Many Chinese names in English contain vowels is that a problem?

A Pinyin word often contains vowels, e.g. Baidu, but a Chinese acronym does not. An acronym such as DJDDP is formed by using Chinese initials of Pinyin characters (see explanation of initials in my Market Watch chart).

 

[mirul]

4L flipping

Investor Shan Ren (nickname?) recently sold three 4Ls (8285.com, 8582.com, 7199.com) and then also bought more than 10 4Ls for close to 2m RMB.

Shan Ren flips 4Ls regularly, and the latest acquisition includes 8365.com, 3225.com, and 2378.com. Most of them feature 6, 8, or 9 -- lucky numbers favored by Chinese. No 0 and 4. These numbers have better quality than the average 4Ls.

Earlier, he sold 3952.com for 230k RMB and 3829.com for 210k. He feels 4Ls are stable in prices and many buyers are willing to spend that amount of money. These names will certainly rise in value, he added.

Currently, the market price of 4Ls without 0 and 4 is 230k RMB or above, and better quality names can command even higher prices. Some examples are 2271.com (mid 6), 9394.com (mid 6), and 1117.com (7 figures).

4Ls are liquid and have great investment and application values. They can be used to build gaming, navigation, and lottery sites. Recently, YY Game launched a new gaming platform on 4366.com

Source: news.ename.cn

Its 4N right? Not 4L

 

[Kassey Lee]

I can't see any suggestion box. Please assist.

And what can 55EQ mean?

It's not a box, but the area below the source box. See the attached image, which shows 大家 as you type DJ.

55EQ: Couldn't think of any meaning word for it. Sorry.

 

[Kassey Lee]

Its 4N right? Not 4L

You are right. It's obvious that they should all be N not L. Thanks for correcting my typing mistake, mirul. This is serious. If I continue making this kind of mistakes, I'd better retire and stop posting to this forum.

 

[Giode]

I sometimes wonder if I'm wasting my time. Are NP folks really benefiting from my daily posts of Chinese domain news? It seems these posts have failed to trigger much discussion in this thread.

Extremely helpful thread you've created. Been following and learning from it for quite a while. Keep it coming!

 

[DonDraper]

I guess this is for sure my Top3 useful thread in NP to understand Chinese Market.
Im struggling to understand how to use it at its best
For example one of things I do quite always each time @ChinaMobi post some great 3L sale i try to scan the related 5L.com for example last I did id for DKJ and I scan all 400 LLDKJ.com that are obviously all regged.

DKJLL.com 126 on 400 are available so this a data I guess "the niche" at the end is preferable

Never a joy

Some tips to get deeper with these informations is appreciated

 

[domain.place]

@ChinaMobi , Is there any business starting with P ,Q on pinyin ?

 

[thetruman]

I sometimes wonder if I'm wasting my time. Are NP folks really benefiting from my daily posts of Chinese domain news? It seems these posts have failed to trigger much discussion in this thread.

But, thank you for your generous encouragement. Your kind words are very much appreciated and valued.

Chinamobi, your contribution is very important to all members !
On a different note, do not get stuck with just consonant for pinyn. I have recently acquired a 5L domain with one vowel (u) It has a great meaning in pinyn and receives a daily 70 to 100 visitors from China with direct traffic!(no backlinks or organic traffic) Now is just redirecting to the domain sale page as I wouldn't be able to monetize it .

 

[Goncalo]

Hello @ChinaMobi.

I'd better retire and stop posting to this forum.

Don't let yourself be affected by petty nonsense.

You started something here and people are paying attention to what you say - you should continue to build your reputation and don't bother with eventual unrelated comments.

I really like the kind and informed way you are helping us get a sense of the chinese market - keep it up!