Chinese LLLL.com bubble!?

[freezer]

Is it a somewhat good estimate that
chinese LLLL.com premiums are at at least $1billion value today?
Unlike Number .coms chinese premium LLLL.com boomed in value in a very short period.
Will they hold their value or is it the biggest BUBBLE ever seen in domains?

Share your thoughts please

 

[domeen]

But I mean, two months ago they where at $300 and now $3000 each, someone will start to wonder, how is it possible.

 

[wwwweb]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
read again this, and think a little.

@domeen

I know what you are saying, but there is just so much money out there, and $2000 here, and there has so many buyers, if you look at Alibaba singles day revenue of $14B compared to $6B last year, that will show you what could happen.

It might not be smart, but it is what it is, there is no point in fighting it, none of us can tame this market. Just let it play out, a few will make money, but in the end most end up losing.

It is just how it works, we have seen it in the stock market many times. The people who can least afford to lose, are usually on the bottom tier, and they get left holding the bag.

 

[Stian]

The current minimum for Chinese premiums seem to be around $1,400 now. Hard to imagine that most of those names sold for $20/each a couple years ago. Also I have even sold some "good old" Western premiums to Chinese buyers recently for over $1k a pop. These are plain quad-premiums, neither brandable or pronounceable.

I think this is just the beginning, considering there are hundreds of thousands of Chinese buyers with money in their wallets who are looking to invest in short .com domains.

 

[domeen]

Ok. thanks for understanding.

 

[wwwweb]

The current minimum for Chinese premiums seem to be around $1,400 now. Hard to imagine that most of those names sold for $20/each a couple years ago. Also I have even sold some "good old" Western premiums to Chinese buyers recently for over $1k a pop. These are plain quad-premiums, neither brandable or pronounceable.

I think this is just the beginning, considering there are hundreds of thousands of Chinese buyers with money in their wallets who are looking to invest in short .com domains.

The current market for Chinese premium has pretty well been established at $2K in the aftermarket today, as many have said could be at $2,500 by end of next week.

 

[Recons.Com]

This is the smart play, for sure

It is the value play, which is not at sexy, but has the most potential

Thank you. Bought, for example, QIYY for $306.

Who cares about CP etc., if it is perfectly pronounceable as KIY? Visually looks good too. QI can stand for wireless charging, for internal energy (China, Japan) or just Quality Investments.

Here is a creative way:

Quality Investments with Yearly Yields ))

 

[Stian]

The current market for Chinese premium has pretty well been established at $2K in the aftermarket today, as many have said could be at $2,500 by end of next week.

You are right, but I'd still like to see it hold up for a few days, at least, before I can say that there's a new minimum price.

 

[wwwweb]

Thank you. Bought, for example, QIYY for $306.

Who cares about CP etc., if it is perfectly pronounceable as KIY? Visually looks good too. QI can stand for wireless charging, for internal energy (China, Japan) or just Quality Investments.

Here is a creative way:

Quality Investments with Yearly Yields ))

I think this might be the next wave the brokers try to bump up really, if you think about it, if Chinese premium are worth $2K today, these need to move with them, I think $500 ceiling could happen, but $1000, Chinese premium would need to be at about $5K at least.

 

[Recons.Com]

Domeen, I always knew that this market is so small it can be disrupted by a single large company with big pockets.

200K names at $500 average price is just $100M to buy 40% of LLLL market wholesale. Redirect all of them to your website and you have around 50 000 people visiting your site additionally every day. Sell them whatever you are selling.

 

[wwwweb]

You are right, but I'd still like to see it hold up for a few days, at least, before I can say that there's a new minimum price.

As an investor, I have no issue paying $1600 all day for Chinese Premium, and others are willing to pay $1800, so the floor has been set.

 

[domeen]

Guys, I really hope you all are right and this bubble goes on forever. An I can sell all my 4 letters for nice profit.
But histry and common sense shows that it all will end very bad. At least for some.

 

[domeen]

Domeen, I always knew that this market is so small it can be disrupted by a single large company with big pockets.

200K names at $500 average price is just $100M to buy 40% of LLLL market wholesale. Redirect all of them to your website and you have around 50 000 people visiting your site additionally every day. Sell them whatever you are selling.

well yeah, at $500, but $3000 is little different story

 

[wwwweb]

Guys, I really hope you all are right and this bubble goes on forever. An I can sell all my 4 letters for nice profit.
But histry and common sense shows that it all will end very bad. At least for some.

Nobody said forever, the day will come when people need to cash in, it really depends if it catches on, same thing happend with Bitcoin, if you get to many sellers, the market will drop.

At $2K I am no longer a buyer, at $1200 I was a buyer, others may feel the same way, and that force that keeps pushing higher, and shaking weak hands, and filling gaps, may not continue.

I know that Chinese have no issue dropping $3M on homes sight unseen, so $3K on a domain might not be an issue.

 

[domeen]

Nobody said forever, the day will come when people need to cash in, it really depends if it catches on, same thing happend with Bitcoin, if you get to many sellers, the market will drop.

At $2K I am no longer a buyer, at $1200 I was a buyer, others may feel the same way, and that force that keeps pushing higher, and shaking weak hands, and filling gaps, may not continue.

I know that Chinese have no issue dropping $3M on homes sight unseen, so $3K on a domain might not be an issue.

There is another thing, you say Chinese are rich, they want domains.

But US has always been there, there are a lot rich people,they have always know what domains are, how much they worth are. why hasen`t it been bought up by them in last 20 years? why is it so?

Why is it now in 3 months one type domains prices are up so much

 

[wwwweb]

There is another thing, you say Chinese are rich, they want domains.

But US has always been there, there are a lot rich people,they have always know what domains are, how much they worth are. why hasen`t it been bought up by them in last 20 years? why is it so?

I never said Chinese are rich, I said they are trying to protect their money, which is being devalued by leaving it in straight currency.

They are searching frantically for options that will stabilize their wealth. Why do you think they are putting it in mansions in some of the best countries in the world. It is a flight to safety, but not everyone has millions, if you have a few thousand you want to protect, this might be a wildcard option. Someone shows you a chart, and says it will go up to $5K, you might roll the dice. I don't know how they are being sold on the other side.

 

[index2703]

I hold a handful of these "Chinese premium" LLLL.coms.

Funnily enough they are also conventional LLLL.com "premiums".

They went up in value after the buyout, then crashed back down. Shortly after this crash the non-premiums were often left to expire by domainers because it wasn't worth the $8 to renew them.

Now many of these non-premiums are worth $2k?

Much as I hope this carries on forever, I'm still quite a young man yet I've already seen the dot-com crash, the sub-prime crash, the LLLL.com buyout then crash. Each time people said the same ('this time it is different').

It isn't different, ever.

And this looks very much like a great example of the greater fool theory.

 

[Nile Patel]

There is another thing, you say Chinese are rich, they want domains.

But US has always been there, there are a lot rich people,they have always know what domains are, how much they worth are. why hasen`t it been bought up by them in last 20 years? why is it so?

Why is it now in 3 months one type domains prices are up so much

I think you too busy behind 4L.com Check this now and laugh on buyer.

315688.com 3,420 USD 2015-11-05
983388.com 2,714 USD 2015-11-05
bet588.com 3,451 USD 2015-11-02
568999.com 2,401 USD 2015-11-03
359988.com 3,500 USD 2015-10-24
633888.com 6,050 USD 2015-10-11
877787.com 2,507 USD 2015-09-27
597888.com 7,500 USD 2015-09-14
576888.com 7,300 USD 2015-09-14
888515.com 4,550 USD 2015-09-09
803803.com 2,300 USD 2015-04-23
860888.com 3,101 USD 2015-03-28
372333.com 2,431 USD 2015-11-10

8888828.com 5,103 USD 2015-10-21
8888188.com 4,161 USD 2015-10-12
3888888.com 2,620 USD 2015-05-18
2345678.com 5,500 USD 2011-05-02

This is just sample go spend more time on number domain and forgot all your stress and bubble and hype words from your mind relax and sleep well.

 

[GravityEleven]

i love it how my numericals are rising past all these letters *big grin* :D

 

[Federer]

6N is yet to explode (weeks to come). Even those with 4 and 0.

 

[Nile Patel]

i love it how my numericals are rising past all these letters *big grin* :D

I regret by not considering numeric name better then keyword names in last couple year but lately bought good amount of name by paying my mistake prices , compare to all this numeric sale and quantity of investment this 4l.com category is just small baby it do not even pop out in chinese buyer's radar.