Chinese LLLL.com bubble!?

[freezer]

Is it a somewhat good estimate that
chinese LLLL.com premiums are at at least $1billion value today?
Unlike Number .coms chinese premium LLLL.com boomed in value in a very short period.
Will they hold their value or is it the biggest BUBBLE ever seen in domains?

Share your thoughts please

 

[Nile Patel]

There is a saying, if the taxi drivers start to invest into stock market, then its the right time to get out.

in this moment I have to say too many taxi drivers have invested into this market..

make your own conclusions

I really love you buddy as seller and would buy more name from you just message me all your 4l.com list since you said price will not going up so please do not ask for more this time , lets do deal as what we have done in past.

 

[domeen]

Thanks god i m being human able to make some one laugh on me, how many more nice name you want to sale me for that price message me.

I am very happy for getting $1000+ each for domains that I had for years and sold 1-2 for $2000-$3000 each in year. I don`t care if someone sells one or two for $3000

 

[DomainGist]

It's simple, I'm surprised you never heard of this before.

There's 26 times less LLL combinations. So price for LLL must be 26 times higher,

Yes, its too simple and that's the point. Like I said above, for most LLL.com's you will find dozens of organisations or businesses for which three letters will fit as an acronym. Whilst with many LLLL.com's you will struggle to find any logical end user.

You are taking into consideration only scarcity, only supporting my view that these are being traded like bitcoin. You are pretty much admitting yourself that this bubble is being driven by investors and speculators, not end users.

There are 26 times less LLL.biz than there are LLLL.com's, doesn't mean I'm going to go and register LLL.biz domains..... there is no sound basis for LLLL.com prices to be as high as they are.

I was having these same conversations in 2008/2009..... you probably weren't. I've been around long enough to see when hype creates a bubble, seen them pop before. Nothing new here, move along.

 

[Nile Patel]

I am very happy for getting $1000+ each for domains that I had for years and sold 1-2 for $2000-$3000 each in year. I don`t care if someone sells one or two for $3000

How many more you holding ?

 

[domeen]

How many more you holding ?

last 40 went to escrow.com today. I am out of Chinese ones.

 

[Nile Patel]

Yes, its too simple and that's the point. Like I said above, for most LLL.com's you will find dozens of organisations or businesses for which three letters will fit as an acronym. Whilst with many LLLL.com's you will struggle to find any logical end user.

You are taking into consideration only scarcity, only supporting my view that these are being traded like bitcoin. You are pretty much admitting yourself that this bubble is being driven by investors and speculators, not end users.

Pug You been in this business since long tell me which new company going to pay you $25k and above even it is 3L.com, it is really hard to sale a domain above 10K to any corporation or end user unless they are in your network and getting some other write offs.
That is the reason why everyone behind this 4l.com
Please you guys explain me why 4N.com has more value many are equivalent to 3L.com this is fact check all recent auctions, I m complete new in this number game , please someone explain me since how many year this 4N.com has this value or it is sudden rise like 4l.com

 

[Nile Patel]

last 40 went to escrow.com today. I am out of Chinese ones.

Damn I missed them , What is your new category for investment using that fund or you are on big vacation now?
Plz explain me why this 4N.com has this big valuation.

 

[djum]

Well I've just found about 7 after looking at about 25 sales..... seems pointless looking at them all considering I've already exceeded your quota by 700%.

Pax.com
Due.com
Obe.com
Qua.com

... etc, etc.

My point was that a much higher proportion of LLL.com's are in use and developed than of LLLL.com's.... there is real end user demand.

Apart from the odd highly brandable LLLL.com, and the odd actual four letter word, for many of them its impossible to find a business or organisation for which it would serve as an acronym.

With an LLL.com its very rare that you can't find multiple organisations which it would fit as an acronym, apart from the very worst of them.

I only see 4, not 7.

Proportions doesn't matter here, pure numbers does.
I can bet you any money, that there's way more developed LLLL.com then LLL.com and I have 26 times more chances to win this bet
I posted link to 800-2200 developed LLLL.com from few years ago, now this number only bigger.

LLLL in China used as acronyms for 2 words, not 3, that's why they more like LL.
BJKJ.com = BeiJingTechnology

But it's not about end-users, since domain investors and regular investors are driving LLLL market today.
After domains showed better return of all assets many financial investors became attracted to them.

 

[DomainGist]

The LLLL.com bubble has happened before.....

http://www.domainmagnate.com/2008/02/19/why-llllcom-domains-will-grow-in-price/

People just need to know how to get out before it pops again.

Look at the sales on that list..... February 2008. Now check out how many were purchased from end users... none.

Now look up some of the domains on namebio.... and you will see evidence that these have been in a bubble before, and the bubble has popped before.

Its all about knowing when to get out. Remember that there will be people with large portfolios who will pump and dump.

Nobody knows how far it will go before it pops, but I'm pretty sure it will.

 

[djum]

I am very happy for getting $1000+ each for domains that I had for years and sold 1-2 for $2000-$3000 each in year. I don`t care if someone sells one or two for $3000

We are happy that you happy too

Now someone can be very happy in two months when sells them at 2000 each, and then another one selling for 3K later.

Happyness is infectious, when selling for small profit.

 

[Nile Patel]

Please some one guide me about 4N.com valuation and history of its rise and future for their investors.
can some one bring chart for 4N.com

 

[DomainGist]

I only see 4, not 7.

Perhaps you missed my point.

You told me that you'd looked at all LLL.com sales from 2015 and found one end user sale.

I looked at just 25 and found 7 of them..... I thought giving 4 examples was sufficient to show that you'd obviously not looked at all LLL sales in 2015, you've somehow managed to do it wrong..

Xde.com
nbt.com
Dar.com

There you go, there's another 3...... I could list more if you like? I don't really see the point though.

 

[Nile Patel]

We are happy that you happy too

Now someone can be very happy in two months when sells them at 2000 each, and then another one selling for 3K later.

Happyness is infectious, when selling for small profit.

I will wait till i get $3k for all my premium names, after seeing current market rise i may be has to wait only for 6 month rather then 1 year for sure , lets hope for my madness.

 

[JayJay]

I find it a bit odd that there are still listings for chips here on np barely over 1k and not getting bids when they are going for much higher on gd. That is quite a spread either ripe for arbitrage or proof that most buyers are hesitant (with good reason in my opinion). Hope everyone continues to profit for a while but I dont see it going much further (yet) that was too extreme of a move to not have some sort of a retracement I have to believe.

I could very well be completely wrong of course.

 

[DomainGist]

We are happy that you happy too

Now someone can be very happy in two months when sells them at 2000 each, and then another one selling for 3K later.

Happyness is infectious, when selling for small profit.

Do you understand the difference between a 'bull market' and a 'bear market'?

Well you are a bull, in a bull market.

So all I am saying is that people need to buy at the right time, and sell at the right time, and the period of time between those two points can be very short.

Those who are most likely to get burnt are those who are blindly optimistic and believe that the price of something which just keep on going up and up...... like you.

No market works like that, not even oil (ask the Saudi's and Russian's, or the owner of your local petrol station), and if you want to talk about scarcity then oil is something which becomes more and more scarce but is still prone to wild price fluctuations.

 

[Nile Patel]

I find it a bit odd that there are still listings for chips here on np barely over 1k and not getting bids when they are going for much higher on gd. That is quite a spread either ripe for arbitrage or proof that most buyers are hesitant (with good reason in my opinion). Hope everyone continues to profit for a while but I dont see it going much further (yet) that was too extreme of a move to not have some sort of a retracement I have to believe.

I could very well be completely wrong of course.

It might not go that far in short time but still safe investment compare to stock market for me.

 

[JayJay]

It might not go that far in short time but still safe investment compare to stock market for me.

I hope you are able to profit long term, I almost got burned on a buyout before so I personally will always be hesitant lol.

 

[Nile Patel]

I hope you are able to profit long term, I almost got burned on a buyout before so I personally will always be hesitant lol.

Ya I have bought good amount of name at current high price but i was almost holding big amount of name since 2012 so not too bad for me yet even i loose on this new one, it will be no loss no gain game for me(safe then stock) but i have lost a good amount of money on cheap names and new tlds so i feel this is way better and safe and buying 3L.com at current market price is even more gamble then buying 4l.com

I m still interested to buy 4N.com but it seem no one want to talk about them only every one want to talk about 4L.com

 

[djum]

Perhaps you missed my point.

You told me that you'd looked at all LLL.com sales from 2015 and found one end user sale.

I looked at just 25 and found 7 of them..... I thought giving 4 examples was sufficient to show that you'd obviously not looked at all LLL sales in 2015, you've somehow managed to do it wrong..

Xde.com
nbt.com
Dar.com

There you go, there's another 3...... I could list more if you like? I don't really see the point though.

I looked at all the sales reported in NP LLL sales thread for 2 pages, more than 30 names and only found 1 - DAR
That was enough for me. You looked at even less, 25.
But out of 30 I saw at least 20 that was bought by investors and the rest didn't resolve.
What is 20 vs 1? 95%. Even if it's 80%, we can say that market is driven by new end-user type: domain investor, not traditional company. They saw the opportunity and started buying.
I saw 1 name sold for 12K in March and now offered at DNF for 300K. That person representing the company offered about 12 names, each for 300K. Obviously investment company investing in domains.

 

[JayJay]

I m still interested to buy 4N.com but it seem no one want to talk about them only every one want to talk about 4L.com

Sellers may be having a hard time pricing their 4n.com with all of this movement, if I had LLL.com or NNNN.com Id have a really hard time letting go with all of this LLLL and 5N 6N movement. Just a guess.