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Is it a somewhat good estimate that
chinese LLLL.com premiums are at at least $1billion value today?
Unlike Number .coms chinese premium LLLL.com boomed in value in a very short period.
Will they hold their value or is it the biggest BUBBLE ever seen in domains?

Share your thoughts please
 
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I understand that they are used in webpages, I am not an idiot.
But I am saying the demand is too low, for this reseller prices.

Oh. You don't see similartiy between GOLD and LLLL.com (CPs) I tried to show you:

Both are used by "end-users"
Both are limited in quantity
Both prices are speculative
Both are overpriced for end-user use
Both are collectible (LLLL.com can be in future a collectibe item)
Both are stored as investment for future.

This may be a totally bubble (I think - 10%)
Or it may even evolve in smth we never believed ( I think 20%)
Or it can stay were it is (70%) - plateu and then very small rises and downs before it reaches the next big time
 
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NO.....it's you who has no clue about pricing!!! You sold a month ago for nearly 1/2 the current value!!!

No?

and why do you count my money? I know what I have in my bank account. Probably better then you.
If you where that smart to keep all them, I am very happy for you. But you are counting money you don´t have. It can be worth nothing tomorrow.

or if you start selling your 20 domains tomorrow, maybe market crashes, noone wants them


And like I said before, noone likes a smartass
 
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I haven't mentioned any money I have or have had ever......

Just stating what we know. You sold your CP's a month ago for half there current value.

Like I told you earlier, a profit is a profit. Nothing wrong with that. But yours could have been doubled in a month.

I have no profit yet :)

20 domains? Hahahahahahaha um yeah sure.

See your angry because you jumped too early and you know it......NOW.
 
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Oh. You don't see similartiy between GOLD and LLLL.com (CPs) I tried to show you:

Both are used by "end-users"
Both are limited in quantity
Both prices are speculative
Both are overpriced for end-user use
Both are collectible (LLLL.com can be in future a collectibe item)
Both are stored as investment for future.

there are similarities, I agree. And I am too lazy to look up how much of it is being used.
http://www.numbersleuth.org/worlds-gold/
 
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I haven't mentioned any money I have or have had ever......

Just stating what we know. You sold your CP's a month ago for half there current value.

Like I told you earlier, a profit is a profit. Nothing wrong with that. But yours could have been doubled in a month.

I have no profit yet :)

I see, so you have not actually sold any 4 letters, and you are an expert now?
 
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Good research. Industrial use - 12% this is compared to LLLL.com "industrial use" :)

best case scenario you sell 1% (prices over $2000) as industrial us form those 4 letters in year. Best case. Probably 0.5% is better estimate
 
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I see, so you have not actually sold any 4 letters, and you are an expert now?

You are pretty stupid if you don't remember me showing you SOME of my 4 letter sales just 2 days ago.

Yes I'm obviously an expert, I still have my CP's :)
 
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You are pretty stupid if you don't remember me showing you SOME of my 4 letter sales just 2 days ago.

Yes I'm obviously an expert, I still have my CP's :)

Really you did? I don´t remember

sorry, but before you have showed any 4 letter sales you just an avarege Joe to me. sorry.
 
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sorry, but before you have showed any 4 letter sales you just an avarege Joe to me. sorry.

Well now you know....I'm an expert!!!
 
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I haven't mentioned any money I have or have had ever......

Just stating what we know. You sold your CP's a month ago for half there current value.

Like I told you earlier, a profit is a profit. Nothing wrong with that. But yours could have been doubled in a month.

I have no profit yet :)

20 domains? Hahahahahahaha um yeah sure.

See your angry because you jumped too early and you know it......NOW.

You have more then 20? you could inflate the market. don´t sell them at once.
 
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Hey Guys, just got a Chinese premium for $1200, did i do good? it's meaningful in English market as well.
 
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Hey Guys, just got a Chinese premium for $1200, did i do good? it's meaningful in English market as well.

Is it on flippa? :xf.wink:

$1.2k for chips definitely a good price...
 
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It costed me $1300 though with some additional flippa charges, and crazy exchange rate. It's not hqwp, that you see on LLLLSales, i hope rpanella won't find this one out.
 
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It costed me $1300 though with some additional flippa charges, and crazy exchange rate. It's not hqwp, that you see on LLLLSales, i hope rpanella won't find this one out.

It's a steal and should have gone for close to double that.

You could list it at namejet auctions today and get $2200+ for it.
Again flippa has these rediculous sales way under market value that would never happen on any of the big platforms like namejet/godaddy/dropcatch etc. It is the worst market for sellers IMO with no/low reserves together with ebay possibly.

Congrats!
 
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Thank Mirul and Joro for the replies. I don't do Chinese premiums, never had one. mostly into vowel ones, more the vowels better they look ;) it took me about 1 hour on this hunt. hope it pays off. by the way first two letters are fx and second 2 are a country code. I know it will be soon on LLLLsales. Will pm both of you guys.
 
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Chaomi shows $2460 (15388)
 
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Chaomi shows $2460 (15388)

Yep noticed the change recently.
This is the highest they have ever been and around the $2.5k floor we've been talking about.
 
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Here is new 4L statistics, I joined two first range<$499 and <$999 and added a new one 2K-3K , Enjoy!

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F*ck me, you are showing your ignorance right there. You think all the Chinese are clueless? And have never had internet? Huh!!
Excuse me, but the vast majority of domainers are in fact losing money. Even experienced domainers. That's why very few are incorporated in the first place. They are hobbyists.
So they are probably clueless as well, because they aren't making money. They think they know what they're doing, but in fact they're not because domaining is more difficult than it sounds. It's obvious that the Chinese are buying everything that moves, even .cm domains by the thousands. You don't have to be a genius to see that money is being burned ablaze.
The Chinese who are currently buying up names are probably less knowledgeable and experienced than the average NPer who is nonetheless losing money ? You see what I mean ?

By the way how many Chinese have become domainers lately ? I can't believe they all woke up at the same time and saw the light... Probably there are not so many players but they are buying in large amounts, hence the impression that there is a big move taking place.

Wow, you have a lot to learn..........most of the richest people in the world are now from China.
Those who have money, can afford to burn money and gamble. Doesn't mean you must follow their example, because they may not succeed. In fact, failure is the norm, and success is the exception in domaining.
I know of a guy who burned 200K on a .mobi a few years ago. He must be smarter than I, because he got rich, yet I never bought one single .mobi.

Just because they are Chinese doesn't change the fact that the market rules are still in play and they are quite simple.
As long as speculators can flip to one another, everybody is happy. When the prices are too high, speculators stop buying - don't forget they cannot keep buying, they have inventory to sell too. When the reseller market is depressed, you need end users to achieve a high markup on your sales.

Now who is going to absorb all that supply of domain names ?
The pool of end users just doesn't not grow at the same pace. The outcome is predictable:
  • paying for renewal = more money down the drain
  • or: massive drops
  • the other domains in the same categories become worthless again as a whole or illiquid - anyway the correction will be huge
But the bubble will normally burst well before that.
Buying is easy, burning money is easy, everybody can do it.

You know what they say: follow the money. People are just following the herd. It's not the same thing. It's more about mimicking others, than insight.
 
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