.mobi Capitulation?

[sf2010]

I think some people have started to give up on the mobi extension based on some "portfolio" sales.

For whatever reasons that are named in these portfolio sales, I can't help to think that it's a classic sign of capitulation in the mobi speculation market.

But before you get trampled in the "tulip bulb mania" exit, I would like to recommend the following:

1. DO NOT BE A lemming and start dumping names; get away from the herd mentality!

2. STOP registering ridiculous/stupid names. A quick way to double check is to look up COM, NET and ORG names to see if they have been developed (not parked).

3. TAKE A LOOK at your portfolio and select a handful of names that you are willing to pay renewals for next 3-5 years and possibly develop them

4. FOR VALUABLE NAMES that are not on the #3 list, start formulating sale prices that you are willing to accept to remove from your portfolio. Use Estibot or appraisals or something. Just don't be greedy. Remember, for you to sell your unwanted name means someone else has to see the value for him/her to take investment risk; conduct auctions with few names at a time

5. FOR CRAPPY NAMES (that you have honestly evaluated as such), list them on Sedo or some place but don't count on selling them.

You have a persistent nay sayer in the mobi forum as well as people who constantly hype the extension. Stop listening and start thinking for yourself.

Please don't take my comments as being condescending; I've made some stupid mistakes myself. As the saying goes, "there is nothing you can do about the spilled milk". My only goal was to help at least 1 person.

I still firmly believe that you can make money in the mobi market.

 

[newdomainer.mobi]

Sound advice..... I'm only in with money I can cope without should that come to pass.
However, I'm always interested in seeing what others are doing & this seems like a good time to go bottom fishing....... lots of dross out there but the odd good name for sale..
I have no doubt that dotmobi will succeed to some extent or other - it's just a case of whether it takes a 5% share of the mobile web or 65% of it... above that is just a pipe dream anyway imho...
Mini-sites are where I believe the secret lies.... marketing sites, promotion sites, movie trailer sites, music sites, estate agent 'new listings' sites etc.. (there are a 1,000 uses for a dotmobi)

If you want out; PM me your names

Gary

 

[dag]

I agree, your points are good ones.

I for one have a large "portfolio" sale going on, but it's not because I've lost faith in the extension: despite hoping to sell over 200 names in my sale, I'm still intending to keep as many of the nearly 600 remaining names as I can afford!

I simply need to pare things down to help make things more affordable.

With that in mind, anyone should feel free to make me a reasonable offer on any of the names in my sale (see my sig).

 

[BrainPower]

I think sept/oct should be a great time to see where dot mobi is at.
You will have the intial set of .mobi registered, up for renewal.

You'll see a flood of of them being sold beforehand (IMO).

 

[accent]

I think some domainers did not realize that they were buying into a new technology - the mobile web. From all appearances it, and .mobi, are developing nicely, but it takes time, and a lot of it. Several years yet, IMHO before there is much use of the mobile web by the public, several more before it comes near its' potential.

But then, if .mobi rides the tiger - or, if mTLD has it's way, LEADS it - the right .mobi names will be very very valuable.

 

[teabag]

NO, not at all.
I personally started to offer good names just to get an idea about value of
some names from my portfolio.

More than that, i see no interest in ANY names , but only if there is a
fixed price of $18 (whatever lowball) USD.
So, if terms with massive search results have no interest it doesn't mean
they worth nothing, it means .MOBI domains have no value untill developed
and earning money, period.
All sales of 10, 20 30 USD have no meaning for me.

 

[snoop]

NO, not at all.
I personally started to offer good names just to get an idea about value of
some names from my portfolio.

More than that, i see no interest in ANY names , but only if there is a
fixed price of $18 (whatever lowball) USD.
So, if terms with massive search results have no interest it doesn't mean
they worth nothing, it means .MOBI domains have no value untill developed
and earning money, period.
All sales of 10, 20 30 USD have no meaning for me.

Have you considered that those "lowballs" are likely market value? Further if a name has "no interest unless developed", then yes, it is worthless.

 

[teabag]

Have you considered that those "lowballs" are likely market value? Further if a name has "no interest unless developed", then yes, it is worthless.

OK, please, evaluate the name Reinvest and Reinvestement
as an example.

 

[Keith]

OK, please, evaluate the name Reinvest and Reinvestement
as an example.

If you're asking for an appraisal, I'll say...

reinvest - high $xx-low $xxx
reinvestment - low $xx

 

[snoop]

OK, please, evaluate the name Reinvest and Reinvestement
as an example.

Maybe $10 for reinvest.mobi, would say under reg fee for reinvestment.mobi. I'm not really sure I see any obvious use for the names, and how the terms relate to the mobile internet.

 

[dag]

Maybe $10 for reinvest.mobi, would say under reg fee for reinvestment.mobi. I'm not really sure I see any obvious use for the names, and how the terms relate to the mobile internet.

$10?

What a load of cr*p.

That could easily go for $xxx any day.

 

[gou]

I would say that the average .com sales are in the $x - $xx range anyway...

It's not really important how .mobi domains perform in the aftermarket in the short-run. As Peter Lynch said, "often, there is no correlation between the success of a company's operations and the success of its stock over a few months or even a few years. In the long term, there is a 100 percent correlation between the success of the company and the success of its stock. This disparity is the key to making money; it pays to be patient, and to own successful companies."
This can be applied to domain extensions. Once .mobi catches on, the value of the extension will follow.

 

[DomainTalker]

"...it pays to be patient, and to own successful companies."

This can be applied to domain extensions. Once .mobi catches on, the value of the extension will follow.

Well said...


It takes time to establish a pedigree...

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[snoop]

I would say that the average .com sales are in the $x - $xx range anyway...

It's not really important how .mobi domains perform in the aftermarket in the short-run. As Peter Lynch said, "often, there is no correlation between the success of a company's operations and the success of its stock over a few months or even a few years. In the long term, there is a 100 percent correlation between the success of the company and the success of its stock. This disparity is the key to making money; it pays to be patient, and to own successful companies."
This can be applied to domain extensions. Once .mobi catches on, the value of the extension will follow.

In my opinion its best days are likely behind it, we aren't exactly talking about blue chip domain investing here, these are names with no revenue and a sales market made up almost entirely of speculators. It is more like Dr Koop than IBM.

I would say that the average .com sales are in the $x - $xx range anyway...

Agree with that. However are talking about names that are very marginal profit wise. Unless they really are in the $xx range then it is likely loss making.

$10?

What a load of cr*p.

That could easily go for $xxx any day.

So you are offering $100 for it then?

 

[gou]

In my opinion its best days are likely behind it, we aren't exactly talking about blue chip domain investing here, these are names with no revenue and a sales market made up almost entirely of speculators. It is more like Dr Koop than IBM.

Peter Lynch wasn't talking about blue chip stocks either.
The prices of .mobi domains seem to be going down, but the extension is making progress. The progress won't be reflected in the secondary market immediately and that's the point of the quote.

 

[snoop]

Peter Lynch wasn't talking about blue chip stocks either.
The prices of .mobi domains seem to be going down, but the extension is making progress. The progress won't be reflected in the secondary market immediately and that's the point of the quote.

In my view the extension was being priced for fairly moderate success (which is looking more unlikely by the day). Given the extension has no real enduser usage it can't really go backward in that sense but the pricing (that domainers were paying) was way ahead of itself in my view.

 

[dag]

So you are offering $100 for it then?

Indeed...I would gladly pay $100 for it. Who's selling?

 

[teabag]

Maybe $10 for reinvest.mobi, would say under reg fee for reinvestment.mobi. I'm not really sure I see any obvious use for the names, and how the terms relate to the mobile internet.

Yes, you are right.

care to explain the difference in MOBI usage between Invest and Reinvest ?

Sometimes is better to think 2 or even 3 times before you post.

Again, i have no problem with ANY evaluation of any domain , cause it's
very personal point of view, but all i'm trying to say is:

this extention has no ANY value yet , only if you develop the site
and may be your site will get attention and traffic.
All sales for mad amounts of money on so called auctions are b/s

Thanks for your time

 

[snoop]

Indeed...I would gladly pay $100 for it. Who's selling?

Nice, I hope a deal can be done here.

 

[NewWorldArk]

In my view the extension was being priced for fairly moderate success (which is looking more unlikely by the day). Given the extension has no real enduser usage it can't really go backward in that sense but the pricing (that domainers were paying) was way ahead of itself in my view.

No one's going to take you too seriously when your statement in bold
contains about as much validity as if breathable air has no real enduser usage.