status-monitor Can we sort out the appraisal section?

[NickB]

I think there is an issue with the appraisal section that needs looking at.....

When giving appraisals can we have a rule that stops people just quoting a figure with no explanation on how they came up with it?

A lot of people that use the appraisal section are new to the industry (I used it a lot when I first started) and I for one still go there to read and try to learn about how to price domains...

When I see what look like random figures being given as an appraisal it really jars with me. In some cases they seem wildly optimistic, in others they are downright misleading. This can lead to false hope, people registering more domains of a similar ilk which can lead to people spending a lot of money based on a figure someone seemingly has plucked from the air with absolutely no context on why they arrived at that appraisal amount.

Seems wrong to me......

Namepros has the below rule in place already......I would like to see this updated to include all appraisals

5.1. All appraisals below $10 USD must include a unique and constructive explanation to support the assessment.

Would like to see peoples opinion on expanding the above to include ALL appraisals

Any feedback from the community and Mods would be appreciated......

 

[CraigD]

I've had a few attempts at informative appraisals, but the impression I got is that many posters to this section are merely trying to market their domains and are rarely interested in contributing to the NP community.

EDIT: Perhaps posters to this section should posses a minimum number of points/likes or community interaction before they can ask for appraisals?

 

[NickB]

I've had a few attempts at informative appraisals, but the impression I got is that many posters to this section are merely trying to market their domains and are rarely interested in contributing to the NP community.

Not just marketing their domains but also the majority are seeking some kind of justification......tell them something they don't want to hear, even when backed with some data or facts and they get arsey..

Not every appraisal given will be right but if it is done with good intent, some effort and data points then at least it shows the reasoning behind it.

If someone disagrees then they should respond with a fact based rebuttal not just "reg fee" or "I would say" a random figure or a insulting or sarcastic comment....

I got sucked into it and won't be doing it again...

 

[lock]

There aren't too many members even prepared to give an opinion as nobody is offering their best names for appraisal as they already indicate value but their uncertainties but rather than give a negative many will not comment which often only inflates any false hope. The best thing is to make them anon or to some ranking system.

 

[lock]

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There is no hope or help for people who refuse to read/listen to logic and get aggressive/defensive about their domains and these sorts do not seem to last the course anyway.....

No need for it to be anonymous imo just tighten up the rules so people can't just post random figures that give people that false hope.....

Some are here off the back of an appraisal scam and are defensive about their NP appraisal or just think they fell over a gold nugget in 2020. Members should participate more in appraisals as it even helps influence the most stubborn thinkers over time with majority opinions and results.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Hello,

We understand there is room for improvement, and we're monitoring your feedback.

Honestly, our plate is quite full at the moment and we haven't had a chance to fully explore alternatives.

It's on our to-do list.

 

[korganian]

I think either an anonamous poll to shield members from irate domain owners.

OR

The ability to click on a button on only the names that we like and then indicate the value of those names. I think any valuation of $1,000 or more should also have a place to explain the valuation.
There could also be a button for "none" to politely indicate that we don't see value in any of the names listed.

 

[Samer]

NamePros really needs to do something about the user jim h.

They just pop into appraisal threads, throw out some inflated number with no justification, then leave. Over and over. It is a problem.

Brad

Exactly. I was referring to jim in earlier post. There should be a rule;

Contractually required buy 10% of ‘appraisal’

“i would say” more than fair!

Samer

 

[zomainhacks]

Explaining why a domain has no value is often something that require more that two lines of text. The fact is most people there lack basic knowledge about domaining.
Is such cases the best think to do IMHO is just redirect users to the newbie section of the forum. Why explaining in depth basic stuff if it is arleady being discussed elsewhere?
On the other side, explaining why a certain domain has value is not something trivial. I think a short reasoning behind such appraisals should be advisable.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Moderators should really consider warning members that are not following a specific template while appraising a domain

Which template(s) would you like to see used for every appraisal?


Edited to include related thread: https://www.namepros.com/threads/sh...ection-because-trolling.1209605/#post-8018209

 

[Zanok]

Which template(s) would you like to see used for every appraisal?

According to me, an appraiser - even if you consider the fact that appraisals are 100% free - shouldn't be allowed to just throw away random numbers without at least briefly explaining himself. It doesn't make sense. This is why EstiBot, GoValue™ and other automated appraisal tools exist.

Randomly pick 5 appraisal requests from the section and you will see similar (if not exact) replies most of the time:

"I would say $2000"
OP should be at least able to understand (without necessarily having to agree with it) why you came up with these numbers.
How did you come up with an appraisal of $2000 while 4 other members previously replied that the domain isn't even worth $10? Do you think you could easily get $2000 for it if it was your domain? Did you previously sell a similar domain for $2000?

"reg fee... waste of money"
OP should be at least able to understand (without necessarily having to agree with it) why he shouldn't have register the domain according to you.
Why? Because the name is meaningless? Because you don't see any potential buyer for it? Because .mobi is not a popular extension? Because there are no past reported sales since 2017 for this prefix?

 

[jim h]

You may find that many times I am the first person to reply
only because I see many posts that have not been answered for a long time.
I don't want new people to think it's a utilitarian forum and lose confidence , then leave.
Though I'm new here too.

I don't laugh at other people's domain names as "crap"(the word you use to me at
https://www.namepros.com/threads/gpa-net.1209999/),
because I know that every domain name has already paid for it. Just because they have no experience, the domain name seems to have some problems.

I'm not going to drive away those who want to help and call them "troll"(the word you use to me at https://www.namepros.com/threads/gpa-net.1209999/). Because I know that they don't charge any fees and spend their time giving advice to others. They are good people.

Maybe my level is not that high, but before I give my advice, I refer to the records of namebio and the average price of the same domain names being sold by afternic, Dan and Sedo,
I mainly checked the meaning of the domain name with the meaning, length, suffix, prefix sales record ，potential buyers.I've done this, but I won't write a long paragraph because maybe other people have other ideas, like you said, don't mislead people. So I only talk about my own ideas. If someone don't allow people to speak here, what's the meaning of this forum.

What you see is the estimate given by others, but you don't know that other people spend time thinking about it. You think it's just random numbers because you do it yourself.You were perfunctory. @NickB

Even if I can't use Google and many tools like you , for some reason. I tried.

I like to help others, maybe my level is not that high, but I still choose to be a positive helper.
@bmugford @Zanok

 

[NickB]

There aren't too many members even prepared to give an opinion as nobody is offering their best names for appraisal as they already indicate value but their uncertainties but rather than give a negative many will not comment which often only inflates any false hope. The best thing is to make them anon or to some ranking system.

It can be a very valuable resource for people who are starting out and might not have acquired any decent names , I mean if you are really willing to learn and can handle receiving constructive negative feedback then it should help you improve.

There is no hope or help for people who refuse to read/listen to logic and get aggressive/defensive about their domains and these sorts do not seem to last the course anyway.....

No need for it to be anonymous imo just tighten up the rules so people can't just post random figures that give people that false hope.....

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Let's say we require explanations.

Where do we draw the line between a well-researched answer that could take hours versus a simple "because I like it and think someone would pay that much"?

If every appraisal comes with an explanation, then more appraisal threads will turn into discussions (or arguments) about those explanations. Is that a desired effect?

Please share your thoughts.

 

[Zanok]

Moderators should really consider warning members that are not following a specific template while appraising a domain, just like they do for sellers in other sections like Domain Auctions and Fixed Price.

As we speak, Domain Appraisal section is literally a jungle. You get everything from old lions with wisdom to monkeys with their basket filled with arrogance.

 

[jim h]

I think there is an issue with the appraisal section that needs looking at.....

When giving appraisals can we have a rule that stops people just quoting a figure with no explanation on how they came up with it?

A lot of people that use the appraisal section are new to the industry (I used it a lot when I first started) and I for one still go there to read and try to learn about how to price domains...

When I see what look like random figures being given as an appraisal it really jars with me. In some cases they seem wildly optimistic, in others they are downright misleading. This can lead to false hope, people registering more domains of a similar ilk which can lead to people spending a lot of money based on a figure someone seemingly has plucked from the air with absolutely no context on why they arrived at that appraisal amount.

Seems wrong to me......

Namepros has the below rule in place already......I would like to see this updated to include all appraisals

5.1. All appraisals below $10 USD must include a unique and constructive explanation to support the assessment.

Would like to see peoples opinion on expanding the above to include ALL appraisals

Any feedback from the community and Mods would be appreciated......

Forum is a public place, not a small circle of people.

There is nothing wrong with trying to help others.Although the method is not necessarily brilliant.
I'm not going to open a post to attack someone. I'm a pacifist.

 

[NickB]

Someone is on repeat mode.........

 

[jim h]

Someone is on repeat mode.........

I don't want to have a war of words with people like you.
It's a waste of my time. @NickB