.tv business.tv crosses 10,000

[mahesh13]

Business.tv...The first one crosses 10000 with still 3 more days to go... Good signs for .tv'ers

 

[equity78]

Jeff .tv is not foreign to anyone I know, they see Mlb.tv, Hollywood.tv and TNT.tv everyday, Not every other day, everyday. Jeff .com contract is up in 2012 since you own some of them you might want to be worried about that, you own no .tv so no worry for you in 2016. And I am pretty sure TUVALU will renegotiate or they would do a deal with someone like Godaddy since they have none of the resources or technical know how to run the extension. And if Verisign were a country it would be a far larger country than Tuvalu so I think they will look for more money but they will not be running the extension. They know who butters their bread.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Foreign, being unknown ... even after 10+/+ years, IMHO. :red:

Kind regards,
Jeff

Then why are you putting it in inverted comma's?

I think we both know what you ACTUALLY meant?

 

[mwzd]

Jeff, respectfully, all that really matters for a domain investor is ROI.

How that ROI is achieved, via sale or lease or development, is a matter of personal choice and circumstance. Just as a .com owner is not 'mandated' to develop, neither is an owner in other extensions.

If I had the money, I'd definitely have gone after a few names in this auction, with the .com being worth at least seven to eight figures each for matching keywords, the .tv at five figures sounds like a great investment.

 

[domainacrobat]

You guys remember when Businesses.tv sold here for $1,000.

I do.

I wonder what that could fetch now.

 

[Jeff]

Jeff, respectfully, all that really matters for a domain investor is ROI.

How that ROI is achieved, via sale or lease or development, is a matter of personal choice and circumstance. Just as a .com owner is not 'mandated' to develop, neither is an owner in other extensions.

If I had the money, I'd definitely have gone after a few names in this auction, with the .com being worth at least seven to eight figures each for matching keywords, the .tv at five figures sounds like a great investment.

I respect your opinion, and I stated that there are ... at present ... no 'development requirements', IMHO. Lastly, I believe that this ".TV" auction - once all the dust settles - will prove to be an an anomaly for the .TV based upon HYPE, as well! :yell:

All the best,
Jeff

 

[snoop]

Was a very good price for business.tv, higher than I would expected. Though not that suprised to see one "breakout" sale at the auction.

You guys remember when Businesses.tv sold here for $1,000.

I do.

I wonder what that could fetch now.

I feel like I've been saying this alot lately, but "A miss is as good as a mile".

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Re: Jeef's comments. I suspect Jeff is hoping for the buyer to be revealed as a domainer so some good commentry can be made about lack of enduser involvement. If so Jeff will have pleasant news I am sure.

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I respect your opinion, and I stated that there are ... at present ... no 'development requirements', IMHO. Lastly, I believe that this ".TV" auction - once all the dust settles - will prove to be an an anomaly for the .TV based upon HYPE, as well! :yell:

All the best,
Jeff

When an auction "breaks out" like that there is a good chance of it. Probably the better value names will be lower down. Frankly I have no idea what business.tv could be used for in any practical sense to produce a good ROI on 100k but it is no suprise for it to get the highest price. I think the name is another trophy name. Having said that the sale is good for .tv. I suspect it may not be good for the buyer but that is life. The "high" "surprising" sales rarely are.

 

[equity78]

Really Jeff, who hyped Michael Berkens, who hyped Aron Meystedt, who hyped Antonis Polemis ? These are all seasoned investors who participated and won at least 5 names today.

But guess what it doesn't matter what you think, only the sales figures matter. Your opinion means nothing. I realize we all like to live in this fairy land where everyone thinks their inflated self worth matters, but when it comes to .tv, your opinion is less than reg fee its 0.

 

[Jeff]

But guess what it doesn't matter what you think, only the sales figures matter. Your opinion means nothing. I realize we all like to live in this fairy land where everyone thinks their inflated self worth matters, but when it comes to .tv, your opinion is less than reg fee its 0.

Development, not "reported/published" sales figures matter ... and, thankfully, all OPINIONS are equal; and neither right nor wrong! :imho:

See you soon,
Jeff

 

[antonis12]

Development, not "reported/published" sales figures matter ... and, thankfully, all OPINIONS are equal; and neither right nor wrong! :imho:

See you soon,
Jeff

Well, if I remember correctly, you participated last week and this week in a thread where you predicted using actual US dollar terms (not opinions about the value of development, the risk of Tuvalu sinking, the scary aspects of foreign countries or your opinions about domaineers), but actual US$ terms what you thought the combined price of the top 5 sales would be in this very same Sedo auction that ended to day.

I will leave it to the audience to dig up, but even if half the top 20 domains don't actually transact, the net result was 'not even close' to your prediction.

You also often feel comfortable participating in appraisal threads, that again are quantitative, not qualitative.

So, to the degree, that you engage in said activities, your results in terms of 'Jeff's predictions about an event' vs 'What actually happened in reality' are open to review.

And for someone who I think views himself as the teller of hard-hitting truths, it is a little unimpressive that you can't seem to even remotely concede or admit that in the specific case of the Sedo Auction, you were pretty badly wrong. It does not matter who bought the names or not; that is not what you predicted; you predicted the $ amount and that is a verifiable data point.

Sure, you can hide for a couple of weeks with 'well, the transactions might not occur' but I am sure someone here will remember to pull this thread back up once the transactions have cleared and we can review then.

Be cool

AP

 

[equity78]

That's not true Jeff. That would be like saying my opinions on Search matter as much as Larry Page and Sergey Brin. Simply not true, they have cred when it comes to search and I don't. Do I have the right to espouse my opinion on search ? Sure. Does anyone care ? No

And again who are you maybe you can answer the question this time instead of using smileys like this is a Hanna Montana forum. Who elected you as the Pope of what matters ? Development matters to you, someone who owns no .tv but spends a lot of time here talking, people should not ignore you they should have pity for you, that you spend all day in area where you have no interest.

If someone regged a domain to sell it then no development does not matter. Sales matters. You can't spin today, good day for the extension.

 

[Jeff]

If someone regged a domain to sell it then no development does not matter. Sales matters. You can't spin today, good day for the extension.

Reminder, no "sales" are yet completed or verified ... second point, again, for an ccTLD that is not established; development, and not HYPED "reported sales" figures, are what is paramount IMHO.
If these folks do finalize with these .TV "sales" ... what will then happen to them and their domains in Year 2016?
IYHO.

Thanks kindly,
Jeff

 

[equity78]

Hyped ? please tell me what was hyped Jeff ? Domain blogs report on every auction. I read every month about snapnames monthly auction on a lot of blogs is that hyped ?

This is a .tv subforum what else would people be talking about today ? Other than the Sedo auction.

People don't go through with auctions all the time, so we will see. Michael Berkens does a good job reporting on Traffic,DomainFest,Snapnames and Namejet auctions that don't get paid in .com so we will see the same in .tv if not paid.

Think I answered the 2016 question before, and again .commie you got 2012 and the .com contract coming up and Verisign wants tiered pricing you should be worrying about .com since that's what you own.

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Again about 2016 And I am pretty sure TUVALU will renegotiate or they would do a deal with someone like Godaddy since they have none of the resources or technical know how to run the extension. And if Verisign were a country it would be a far larger country than Tuvalu so I think they will look for more money but they will not be running the extension. They know who butters their bread.

 

[Jeff]

Hyped ?

Yes, extremely HYPED! :yell: :imho:

Again about 2016 And I am pretty sure TUVALU will renegotiate or they would do a deal with someone like Godaddy since they have none of the resources or technical know how to run the extension. And if Verisign were a country it would be a far larger country than Tuvalu so I think they will look for more money but they will not be running the extension. They know who butters their bread.

Definitely sure, or pretty sure?
IYHO.

Regards,
Jeff

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Nice post Equity.

I didn't realise the .com renewal thing was coming up.

 

[mahesh13]

Definitely sure, or pretty sure?
IYHO.

Definitely Jeff... Tuvalu people are not as ignorant as some here in this thread. They know how to do business as opposed to people who just speak.