Bush, Blair and a microphone that was left switched on

[B33R]

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Listen to Tony Blair and George Bush discussing the Middle East in front of a microphone they didn't realise was on.

Not surprisingly, the crisis in the Middle East has dominated the G8 summit in St Petersburg.

In a private conversation with Tony Blair, George Bush spoke candidly about the situation and what he believes needs to be done.

What both men didn't realise was that a microphone was still switched on.

Warning: Contains some strong language
http://www.channel4.com/more4/news/news-opinion-feature.jsp?id=326


My favourite part:

Bush: Thanks for sweater it's awfully thoughtful of you
Blair: It's a pleasure
Bush: I know you picked it out yourself
Blair: Oh, absolutely, in fact I knitted it. [laughing]

:o

 

[Kenny]

I just have to say how much I admire two guys secure enough in their
manhood to exchange clothing as gifts. And world leaders at that.

Anyone else notice the opulence of the setting?
Dom and Lace Linen while they discuss how to deal with the poor, starving
war torn countries and the misery the people in that very room have caused
on the world.

"The peasants have no bread? Well then, let them eat cake!"

 

[Mr. Websites]

An amusing conversation; gives you an insight on how leaders talk behind the scenes. :lol:

 

[maximum]

An amusing conversation; gives you an insight on how leaders talk behind the scenes. :lol:

It gives you an insight to what they themselves think. It is what would happen if their smarter "professional speach writers" weren't around all the time. Or, if their public-relations folks were not around to try and explain thier goofs. Those staffers got caught off by this one, and can do nothing to protect their bosses' images.

Cyberian,

Yes, the opulence is despicable :imho:

 

[HHDomains]

I didn't see any Dom and the place doesn't really look over the top opulent.
This is after all a meeting of world leaders. Do you expect them to have the meeting in a grass hut?

Someone needs to remind George of his manners and tell him not to talk with his mouth full of bread, but other than that all I see on this video is a couple of guys shooting the breeze off the record.

 

[ZuraX]

I just have to say how much I admire two guys secure enough in their
manhood to exchange clothing as gifts. And world leaders at that.

Anyone else notice the opulence of the setting?
Dom and Lace Linen while they discuss how to deal with the poor, starving
war torn countries and the misery the people in that very room have caused
on the world.

"The peasants have no bread? Well then, let them eat cake!"

If they would stop all the fighting and go to work they wouldnt be poor or starving.

 

[maximum]

I didn't see any Dom and the place doesn't really look over the top opulent.
This is after all a meeting of world leaders. Do you expect them to have the meeting in a grass hut?

Someone needs to remind George of his manners and tell him not to talk with his mouth full of bread, but other than that all I see on this video is a couple of guys shooting the breeze off the record.

I don't expect them to eat in a room with centries-old crystal chandaliers, gold-guided chairs, and curtains for one window that cost more than some Npers make in a year, eating off of expensive china with actual silver silverware, 3 glasses (I drink out of one at a time...let us count all the $ spend not only buying these, but washing them and serving staff to fill them), ect.., ect. And the meal itself; if it was typical diplomatic affair - most Npers have never ate a single meal that cost that much in their lives.

No, I don't think they should eat in grass huts. But, I do believe the cost of each of these guest should not be more for this one meal than many folks in their own countries make in weeks, months, (or for some of these leaders' countries) a year or more. Most of us here (and I assume all who have replied, thusfar) are from countries where we make more. But, how many of those leaders were from countires where that one meal of theirs cost more than their average citizen makes in a year? I think that, in itself, makes it definable as "opulant". Fits my definition, anyway.

If they would stop all the fighting and go to work they wouldnt be poor or starving.

If only I had time in my day to go over this comment And, if only life was so simple for folks in alot of countires.....

 

[HHDomains]

When you go to a restaurant you can easily spend $40 on a half decent meal.
Millions and millions of people do it every day.

The average Cuban makes $10 month.

Should all of these millions of people curb their restaurant habits because Cubans make so little?

 

[SiteBroker]

I don't expect them to eat in a room with centries-old crystal chandaliers, gold-guided chairs, and curtains for one window that cost more than some Npers make in a year, eating off of expensive china with actual silver silverware, 3 glasses (I drink out of one at a time...let us count all the $ spend not only buying these, but washing them and serving staff to fill them), ect.., ect. And the meal itself; if it was typical diplomatic affair - most Npers have never ate a single meal that cost that much in their lives.

No, I don't think they should eat in grass huts. But, I do believe the cost of each of these guest should not be more for this one meal than many folks in their own countries make in weeks, months, (or for some of these leaders' countries) a year or more. Most of us here (and I assume all who have replied, thusfar) are from countries where we make more. But, how many of those leaders were from countires where that one meal of theirs cost more than their average citizen makes in a year? I think that, in itself, makes it definable as "opulant". Fits my definition, anyway.

If only I had time in my day to go over this comment And, if only life was so simple for folks in alot of countires.....

Great comparison, world leaders and namepros members..right.
You dont think there entitled in having the best of the best? In this world with billions of people only a few will ever be the leader of a country i think they've earnt the right to luxury more than lets say an nper.
You cant compare everything to people less fortunate, otherwise you would be feeling guilty for buying a milkshake knowing that its worth more then some make in months.

 

[maximum]

Great comparison, world leaders and namepros members..right.
You dont think there entitled in having the best of the best? In this world with billions of people only a few will ever be the leader of a country i think they've earnt the right to luxury more than lets say an nper.
You cant compare everything to people less fortunate, otherwise you would be feeling guilty for buying a milkshake knowing that its worth more then some make in months.

Guilty? Not when I give away more "milkshakes" (to use this as an example) than I myself consume. Entitled to have the best of the best? If it was paid for out of their pockets, considering their salaries, yes. But those salaries, on-top of events like this being paid for by taxpayers. This equates to Bush thinking not only do Americans owe him $400k/yr, but then should pay for him to feast like a king. I, for one, as an Amrican taxpayer, say "No way!".

 

[Kenny]

When you go to a restaurant you can easily spend $40 on a half decent meal.
Millions and millions of people do it every day.

The average Cuban makes $10 month.

Should all of these millions of people curb their restaurant habits because Cubans make so little?

Hate to repost this, but.... not very long ago a queen said:
"The peasants have no bread? Well then, let them eat cake!"

And we all know what happened to her. :hehe:

 

[HHDomains]

Hate to repost this, but.... not very long ago a queen said:
"The peasants have no bread? Well then, let them eat cake!"

And we all know what happened to her. :hehe:

Not really a good analogy though.
We can all have empathy for the less fortunate but I refuse to apologize for my position in life.
I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I worked damn hard to get where I am, as do the majority of successful people.
I may be selfish but I did that hard work for me and my family. I didn't take into consideration the less fortunate.

Do I help out financially once in a while? Yes.
Do I do some volunteer work once in a while? Yes.

But what I don't do is feel guilty when I enjoy the fruits of my labor.

The situation you refer to was a case of ignorance and apathy.
I don't think you can fault people who know what the problem is and are addressing it because they choose to address it in comfortable conditions.

 

[Kenny]

HH, I respect your position, admire you for making it on your own, and appreciate that you do what you can, when you can.

But if you think for one second the people at this meeting have the plight of the poor anywhere on thier agenda, you are sadly mistaken.

This is about how to keep the oil flowing at the least expense... not including soldiers lives, and what spin they will use to convince the masses it is justified.

Sad.

 

[-db-]

A little less selfishness, and a little more thought given to the less fortunate, would make the world a much better place overall. Sadly, not everyone is capable of thinking that way.

 

[maximum]

and what spin they will use to convince the masses it is justified.

HHDomains, I share Cyberian's respect for what you have done, and for helping as you can/do. But, his point I quoted here says it all. These leaders want it to sound nice, without much concern for the actual problems. Most of them (politians to the hilt...albeit, there are the rare exceptions), are interested in staying in their positions and helping their friends.

 

[SiteBroker]

Guilty? Not when I give away more "milkshakes" (to use this as an example) than I myself consume. Entitled to have the best of the best? If it was paid for out of their pockets, considering their salaries, yes. But those salaries, on-top of events like this being paid for by taxpayers. This equates to Bush thinking not only do Americans owe him $400k/yr, but then should pay for him to feast like a king. I, for one, as an Amrican taxpayer, say "No way!".

Are you saying you donate more then you keep, money etc? If so then good on you not many people donate anything but to donate more then you keep puts you in a very small percentage and you can be proud of that.
If your not happy with paying tax for events such as that then move, plenty of countries do not have tax and plenty of wealthy countries also such as Dubai do not have tax. Im sure there are states in America where there is no tax. You have that choice if your not happy with paying tax do something about it. But there are plenty of worse things to be paying tax for. To think that the most powerfull man in the world only earns $400k a year and you think thats alot? Someone like pdiddy would spend $400k at one night club on drink. Bush, Blair are entitled to the little money they earn if not for the work they do but the public scrutinizing they come under. It would take alot more then $400k a year to make me want every detail of my and my familys life splashed over every newspaper and tv channel out there. Everything you do and say is being watched and reported with someone waiting to critize you on it. To me i think they earn there wages and earn the right to eat at posh places...
The queen of England does nothing but spend millions a year floating around different countries doing nothing and still every tax payer in England pays for her lifestyle and pays for castles and homes yet i rarely see anyone in England complaining about that. Atleast Bush does something wether you agree with what he does or not.

 

[Kenny]

B33R,

I'm sorry for taking this off-topic... I should have known better.
Let me say to everyone in this thread, we are all entitled to our opinions and beliefs about what is being done by who.

I dont want this to get ugly or personal. We have been here before on this forum, where things just got brutal. We wont change anyones mind about what they truly believe, only deface the spirit of debate.

So I humbly request we get back to our business, and that this thread be closed.

Peace,
Cyberian

 

[B33R]

It's no problem, these things happen.

I already requested that a mod close this at their discretion. It was not my intention to start one of those threads!

Thread closed. Nothing to see here - move along! :p