BREAKING NEWS: Premium Renewals are Back!

[Ammudamus]

I wrote a post about this on my blog, but premium renewals are back. Look at an email I received confirming this with Name.com.

Hi Ammar,

We were not permitted to sell premium TV's with premium renewals until last week when the premium policy for TV's changed. This is the first time that I have seen or dealt with any TV's that have a premium renewal rate on them. All of the premiums that you have purchased with us, were premium registrations with standard renewal rates. There are premium TV's that Verisign has stated have a premium renewal. I would advise that when making purchases or backorders to check the renewal rate when you are completing the search to ensure that the domain has either a standard renewal rate or a premium renewal rate.Let me know if you have any other questions.

Regards,

Bad news!

 

[The New Guy]

thank goodness all my .tv domains aren't any good!

 

[dr manos]

Maybe it will increase value of already purchased prems that have normal renewal fee

The problem is how a buyer will know, i think is time for Verisign to make a small site
where someone will be able with 100% accuracy to check the fee

 

[equity78]

Back in the day if you owned a premium .tv like say one I owned Six.tv it was $500 as a premium but then $500 each year after that. In 2010 that changed when Verisign made new premium names a one time premium but then standard renewal.

I have written a few times about all the new gtld premium pricing and wondering if inside Verisign they were saying “WTF”. They took a lot of complaints and criticism for the premium renewal price on domains that were premium names

Verisignupdated their .TV pageJuly 29
http://tldinvestors.com/2014/08/verisign-to-tv-investors-theyre-back-premium-renewals-are-back.html

Gave you a link Ammar and this post

 

[Jim Holleran]

Ammar and I are partners in Legacy Fund. The headline here might confuse people. Premium domains are only back if you pick them up on the drops from now on. For example, Ammar and I bought Finland.tv recently from the drop which was a premium domain dropped, but we got it for reg renewal. Therefore, were grandfathered in and so are others who picked up premium drops the last couple of years. It's only for the new drops that are picked up where you have to pay premium renewals.

Ammar and I have bought 150+ premium names off backorder the last few years and we will pay standard renewal as it stands right now. With the new policy, Ammar and I are done buying any more drops though with premium renewal pricing. It sucks for people who have backorders on premium names, which we have many, but no way in hell going to buy any with premium renewals.

Thanks, Jim

 

[garptrader]

Just to play it safe I renewed four .TV domains at Name.com which pre-2010 (three have March 18 renewal dates and the other I picked up off the shelf with a one-time payment) would have had premium renewals. All four went through with normal renewals. I had planned on waiting to move a few premium .TV stuck at ENOM with $50/year renewals but perhaps I should go ahead and do so. Having experienced the cash flow impact of $25-$50 renewals with .TV I have avoided all new TLDs. Higher renewal costs and lower end user demand do not make for great investment returns.

 

[equity78]

This is a complete joke, but I knew they saw people happily falling ove themselves to pay $1600 a year for a one letter .singles or .holdings and thought, we invented this game.

So new regs and drops premium renewal, the March 2010 names and forward no premium, how do they think this is good for businesses who will now have to figure all this out and then say forget it, I will register .whatever.

 

[DnEbook]

i smell the need, the need for greed

 

[donnied79]

I think they really know how not to run a business...
That said this can increase the value of standard renewal .tv

 

[dr manos]

I still insist that in order market of tld to exist need an online utility where anyone
can check the fee

 

[BrandChimp]

I own 3 Premium .TV's that I've successfully backordered.
They cost me $30/year and now I can transfer them out to another registrar.
Will the renewal cost increase to $500/year each and be locked again at my registrar?

 

[mckennaronnie]

I own 3 Premium .TV's that I've successfully backordered.
They cost me $30/year and now I can transfer them out to another registrar.
Will the renewal cost increase to $500/year each and be locked again at my registrar?

no, nothing changes for you.

 

[LinM]

um ok, so whats that stuff they are smoking at vrsgn hq cos Id sure like a piece of that.

 

[dnlucky]

It may be somewhat confusing, but overall I think it's great news. They've raised the price of premium .tv domains, by a huge amount, so all .tv domains are now worth more.

 

[jeffoverman]

Can they just sell this extension off.

What a joke.

 

[equity78]

It may be somewhat confusing, but overall I think it's great news. They've raised the price of premium .tv domains, by a huge amount, so all .tv domains are now worth more.

I think its a real stretch to say its great news, it effectively shuts out domain investors who want to get into the premium market in the future, I know for a lot of people in domaining its just about "Hey I got mine, so I'm good" but its not good for new .tv investors, and yes I know they can come and buy established .tv investors domains without the premium, but they are never paying end user pricing to compete at the investor level.

It also makes the extension more confusing for end users, is this is a legacy premium ? the March 2010 to July 2014 one time premium or the new premium ?

Most will say no thank you I have plenty of choice from KeywordTV.com to TVKeyword.com to handregging a reg fee non premium .tv or a new gtld.

Everyone is entitled their opinion, my opinion is this is far from great news.

 

[DU]

I think its a real stretch to say its great news, it effectively shuts out domain investors who want to get into the premium market in the future

It doesn't shut anyone out. It just puts a different price point on some premium domains. Maybe the price point isn't high enough to support it - but then that brings the whole investment in this TLD into question - maybe that's the point.

Let's turn things around a little. What have domain investors ever done for .TV? Why should anyone continue pricing that brings them into play? Lets take GEO names - should Finster really own most/all of them? What about residents, chambers of commerce,etc. of those locations?

It's really a non-issue imho.People will either pay or they won't pay - the internet needs less registered domains than they need more parked domains.

 

[equity78]

It doesn't shut anyone out. It just puts a different price point on some premium domains. Maybe the price point isn't high enough to support it - but then that brings the whole investment in this TLD into question - maybe that's the point.

Let's turn things around a little. What have domain investors ever done for .TV? Why should anyone continue pricing that brings them into play? Lets take GEO names - should Finster really own most/all of them? What about residents, chambers of commerce,etc. of those locations?

It's really a non-issue imho.People will either pay or they won't pay - the internet needs less registered domains than they need more parked domains.

It shuts out people that don't have the budget John, I will agree on your other points, my post was mostly a response to this is great news.

 

[claudedauman]

Thank you for sharing Ammar!

This is completely nonsensical, imho. Are the folks at Verisign expecting different results this time around? The added confusion is certainly unwelcome.

I can not imagine this being financially rewarding for Verisign. I certainly won't be buying any domains with premium renewal rates.

Claude

 

[DomainVP]

Well this explains the recent resurgence for .TV domains.

Someone knew that this was coming.