BrandBucket Experience

[xtremex]

hello

I am new to BrandBucket. Before getting my hands on this

I wish to experience about brandbucket from my fellow members


Thanks

 

[Brandworthy]

Does this means there's a possibility of changing name server or redirecting to BB and still have the domain point somewhere else instead of the real landing page?

BB validation can be done either by DNS or forwarding. If you use forwarding it's pretty easy to conditionally change things around and still have your name validate. Requests for that particular name appear to be doing a couple of identical 302s without getting in a loop, and then a 301 to BB. There could well be some payload being served to some clients in between those 302s. I'm not visiting that URL directly, so be very careful if you do.

 

[Grilled]

merrchant(com) jammed the conveyor belt. The owner might want to take a look at it.

Do you know how long it's been off the conveyor belt?

Maybe I need a monitoring system for this specific checks. (domain leakage checks)

I ask the above because from what I remember BB is pretty good about detecting domains not properly forwarding. They detect and take actions to protect themselves / sellers / buyers and remove domains not forwarding in what 5 days or something like that?

Whereas other exclusive brandable marketplaces have been known to have improperly forwarded names (some owned by huge domains) for 1+ years without taking action.

 

[Dnbolt]

BB validation can be done either by DNS or forwarding. If you use forwarding it's pretty easy to conditionally change things around and still have your name validate. Requests for that particular name appear to be doing a couple of identical 302s without getting in a loop, and then a 301 to BB. There could well be some payload being served to some clients in between those 302s. I'm not visiting that URL directly, so be very careful if you do.

I meant from marketplace end point. That it can still be possible to have a name correctly validated but the marketplace ends up knowingly/unknowingly sending/redirecting your domain elsewhere instead of the required destination.

None has experience this before?

 

[Dnbolt]

Do you know how long it's been off the conveyor belt?

Don't really know.. Was auto corrected and alert sent.

 

[Arca]

How are 4L.com names doing on BB these days?

 

[Dnbolt]

How are 4L.com names doing on BB these days?

I still have 4L as rank (0.5) 7/14 4rm BB but have not yet refreshed the system.

 

[Brandworthy]

(0.5) 7/14 4rm

What does that mean?

 

[Eric Lyon]

Your only luck was that some of the admin's are BB supporters, but I have a feeling that your luck is going to end.

Hello,

NamePros does not have any special relationship with BB. We never have. I realize that when rules are enforced, it's easy to draw those conclusions, but we enforce the rules the same, always.

If one of your posts are removed for being off topic, then you are more than welcome to start a new thread on that topic, as long as its within the rules (it most likely is within the rules if you start a new thread).

It should be noted that NamePros and BrandBucket are two completely different entities and have no ties to one another. The majority of our moderators do not use BB (Myself and Amanda have never used it). There may only be a single moderator or two on our entire team that has ever used BB. I can assure you that we have no reason to give BrandBucket any special treatment (they are not a partner of ours and their company has never paid us any money). I'll repeat: we have no relationship with them and never have.

We enforce all the rules equally and play no favorites. Representatives of BrandBucket are subject to the same rules and policies as everyone else.

If you have any questions about our actions or policies, or how we handle things, please contact support, and we’ll be happy to discuss it. It may not be discussed in this thread, because that disrupts its flow and topic.


Thanks for understanding,

 

[Dnbolt]

What does that mean?

It means it's the 7th best performing out 14 different character length. Hence rank 0.5

According to brandroot it's 0.54 6/11

Want to know it's rank too for startup data and namebio data?

Note: Data not yet refreshed.

 

[campout]

It means it's the 7th best performing out 14 different character length. Hence rank 0.5

Does this mean there are 6 different character lengths that have a higher sell-through rate than 4L's? I would find that hard to believe.

 

[Grilled]

According to brandroot it's 0.54 6/11

Due to personal gripes - I don't think BR should be considered measurable data.

 

[Dnbolt]

Does this mean there are 6 different character lengths that have a higher sell-through rate than 4L's? I would find that hard to believe.

Well my friend that is what I have.

Not many has respect for brandroot but it still says similar things..

If run the same thing on namebio data I am sure it will be similar thing. (which I already had but stopped half way due to data overload )

How about I run it on all startup data that dngeek posted as it will be faster?
Or get data from dngeek and ask someone that you trust better to run it for you?

If my estimates are far from accuracy then I owe you a 4L .com domain that must be accepted by brandbucket and if I am right then vice versa?

Deal?

Anyone?

 

[Dnbolt]

Due to personal gripes - I don't think BR should be considered measurable data.

Yeah I understand. but....

 

[hookbox]

Does this mean there are 6 different character lengths that have a higher sell-through rate than 4L's? I would find that hard to believe.

I think he means that there are far less 4L sales so it ranks lower on the list. Many more names sell that are 6L or higher so they would be higher up on the list.

 

[Dnbolt]

I think he means that there are far less 4L sales so it ranks lower on the list. Many more names sell that are 6L or higher so they would be higher up on the list.

Sounds like you had the blueprint way before I did..
Well you have 5+ years more experience than myself.

 

[Recons.Com]

Sounds like you had the blueprint way before I did..
Well you have 5+ years more experience than myself.

Do you factor in the % of inventory for the category? If they have only 2-3% of inventory in 4L, it would be hard for those to outperform 5L and 6L, which probably have 20% each.

 

[campout]

Do you factor in the % of inventory for the category? If they have only 2-3% of inventory in 4L, it would be hard for those to outperform 5L and 6L, which probably have 20% each.

Yeah that's the point I was sort of trying to make. To look at performance out of context to amount in inventory doesn't yield useful insights.

I'm about 99.9% certain that 4L's sell the best in this context, unless there is some weird data point for really long names, like 1 out of 3 16L's has sold or something like that (which would not really be useful info, too).

 

[Dnbolt]

Do you factor in the % of inventory for the category? If they have only 2-3% of inventory in 4L, it would be hard for those to outperform 5L and 6L, which probably have 20% each.

Very good point!! I was about to walk away free but you were like "hey, come back"..

Possible solution: I can create a frequency table of character lengths of branbucket inventory VS character length of sales list and plot a graph.

Now If we observe there are direct correlation between the two then we can say the available character lengths has direct impact of what get sold and hence ranking 4L as 7/14 will be inaccurate and unfair but if no reasonable strong correlation then my initial claim remains true and case will be closed.

Shall we begin? Which time frame of data set should we look at?
From March 2016 - March 2017? (Job title: Unofficial BB Sales Reporter)

 

[Dnbolt]

Very good point!! I was about to walk away free but you were like "hey, come back"..

Possible solution: I can create a frequency table of character lengths of branbucket inventory VS character length of sales list and plot a graph.

Now If we observe there are direct correlation between the two then we can say the available character lengths has direct impact of what get sold and hence ranking 4L as 7/14 will be inaccurate and unfair but if no reasonable strong correlation then my initial claim remains true and case will be closed.

Shall we begin? Which time frame of data set should we look at?
From March 2016 - March 2017? (Job title: Unofficial BB Sales Reporter)

Or even better analyse startup data and look at it's frequency. That will simply kill it all.
If they are not requesting a lot of 4L brands names then it simply does not have a higher rank!

 

[Recons.Com]

Very good point!! I was about to walk away free but you were like "hey, come back"..

Possible solution: I can create a frequency table of character lengths of branbucket inventory VS character length of sales list and plot a graph.

Now If we observe there are direct correlation between the two then we can say the available character lengths has direct impact of what get sold and hence ranking 4L as 7/14 will be inaccurate and unfair but if no reasonable strong correlation then my initial claim remains true and case will be closed.

Shall we begin? Which time frame of data set should we look at?
From March 2016 - March 2017? (Job title: Unofficial BB Sales Reporter)

One year would be fine, two years would be even better of course.

If you do have info on number of 4L, 5L, 6L across the timeline or at least ratios. If the ratio didn't change much, no problem. If they went from 8% 4L to 3% 4L, you'd need to account for that too.

Another parameter that is probably beyond your control for this analysis is that the average quality of 5Ls in BB inventory would be better than the average quality of 4Ls, meaning they'd accept probably 50% of submitted 4Ls, while they accept no more than 15% of submitted 5Ls and that owners of really good 4Ls wouldn't be eager to submit them to BB.

And third parameter is pricing. 4Ls in average have 2x-5x higher price than 5Ls and that is different buyer segment, price elasticity etc.

Hence, comparing 5L to 6L to 7L to 8L is more meaningful than comparing to 4L and 3L that are in the class of their own and have established floor prices and can/do work as acronyms also.