BrandBucket Experience

[xtremex]

hello

I am new to BrandBucket. Before getting my hands on this

I wish to experience about brandbucket from my fellow members


Thanks

 

[trelgor]

In my experience, it is easier to sell brandable domain names on BB than on your own separate site. Previously, I had most of my names listed solely on my personal site and the sales rate was about half of what it is on BrandBucket.

I've been mostly buying hand reg'ed names for BB. I think it's a smart investment, but as many experts will tell you, domain age matters. I'll say it again, domain age matters. That means if you are hand reg'ing names, you may have to wait a while before the names become profitable.

I know that Estibot info should be taken through a filter, but I believe that Estibot is a useful tool if the info is taken through a filter. I've watched many of my hand reg'ed names go up in value over time. Many of us who have BB portfolio's full of new domains should be patient and let our names age out a little like a fine wine. The names should be valuable down road. I am not 100% sure each name will be worth more as time goes on, but I do have plenty of money riding this theory and I know that my older names sell better.

I agree, I think that short .com names with inherent business appeal will sell within 5 years. BB or not. But BB, for BB type names, may have the upper hand.

If xhqzs.com (made up example) can be transformed in a matter of days from a liabilty to a liquidity, then short and meaningful anything.com will have a wake up-call anytime soon. First investors. Then endusers who woke up from a dream that the world very well may be flat, and that the domain they need may soon be available at regfee.

The question is whether BB is worth 30% and then some. Doing the big portfolio mambo and shooting for the stars with a smaller percentage may already be equally or even more profitable, as stated.

I have yet to see reports or stats of any BB marketing drive that would justify 1/3 of the sale. Or solid sales numbers for that matter.

I'd say get going already BB and don't be so satisfied that you are marketleaders. Because that means nothing. You need to be miles ahead to have even a slight edge in this business.

 

[Recons.Com]

I am a starter with BB and already must say that the experience shows lack of engagement with partners, no clear communication channels, large lags etc.

I also don't know if they do any selling proactively or is just nicely done website and type-in traffic from 20000+ domains plus publicity. Could not find anything on this.

I don't quite understand also what are their name criteria or pricing.

I don't obviously like that logo cost is from seller only and not from gross sales that makes no sense, especially given that bulk logo orders don't cost $100 each. So it is double dipping there.

They state that they made sales of over $1M in 18 months that is about 500 names out of 15 000 or so they had in average over that time span or around 3%. So, yes, it might seem that there is not much "proactiveness" going on.

 

[hookbox]

In my experience, it is easier to sell brandable domain names on BB than on your own separate site. Previously, I had most of my names listed solely on my personal site and the sales rate was about half of what it is on BrandBucket.

I've been mostly buying hand reg'ed names for BB. I think it's a smart investment, but as many experts will tell you, domain age matters. I'll say it again, domain age matters. That means if you are hand reg'ing names, you may have to wait a while before the names become profitable.

I know that Estibot info should be taken through a filter, but I believe that Estibot is a useful tool if the info is taken through a filter. I've watched many of my hand reg'ed names go up in value over time. Many of us who have BB portfolio's full of new domains should be patient and let our names age out a little like a fine wine. The names should be valuable down road. I am not 100% sure each name will be worth more as time goes on, but I do have plenty of money riding this theory and I know that my older names sell better.

Older names may sell better but it's not because of their age. 5 years ago there was better quality names available so those better quality names are selling. They aren't selling because they are 5 years old, they are selling because they are better names and came from a pool of much higher quality hand registration candidates. 5 years ago out of 100 possible good brandable names you could probably register 75 of them. Now you're lucky if you can get 1 good one out of 100 and that 1 probably isn't that great. Now you literally have to look through thousands of brandable candidates to find some good ones. A junk name registered today will still be a junk name in 5 years and the same goes for a name registered 5 years ago. If it was junk then it's still junk now no matter the age. Age doesn't make a name worth anything except to another domainer and a domainer buying a brandable could care less how old it is. Unless that domainer doesn't have much experience in the brandable market then they may say they want older ones only because they don't know any better.

 

[trelgor]

Older names may sell better but it's not because of their age. 5 years ago there was better quality names available so those better quality names are selling. They aren't selling because they are 5 years old, they are selling because they are better names and came from a pool of much higher quality hand registration candidates. 5 years ago out of 100 possible good brandable names you could probably register 75 of them. Now you're lucky if you can get 1 good one out of 100 and that 1 probably isn't that great. Now you literally have to look through thousands of brandable candidates to find some good ones. A junk name registered today will still be a junk name in 5 years and the same goes for a name registered 5 years ago. If it was junk then it's still junk now no matter the age. Age doesn't make a name worth anything except to another domainer and a domainer buying a brandable could care less how old it is. Unless that domainer doesn't have much experience in the brandable market then they may say they want older ones only because they don't know any better.

True. But it is also true that names considered less than junk 5 years ago are fetching premium prices today. A percentage of the junk of today will do the same in 5 years. In a sense, nothing has changed. And it was a long time ago, in a galaxy far away, that you didn't have to wade through heaps of crap to find a gem.

 

[NameFit]

But it is also true that names considered less than junk 5 years ago are fetching premium prices today. A percentage of the junk of today will do the same in 5 years. In a sense, nothing has changed.

You could say that if about 50% of the names were for sale and market was consuming at an astronomical rate. Most will agree, most of the names sold on after market do not make it live. Considering 98%+ of the domains registered are on the after-market, you cannot just compare the names registered 5 years ago to what you can register today "with the same effort" (time is money).

There is another factor that plays role - people just cannot hand register 100s of decent names today what they could do 5+ years ago. When we talk of percentages of sales, 2-4% that is true for larger portfolios and when it is comes to smaller portfolio you are probably coming to fractions (meaning no or 1 sale at most). Economical factor also plays role - bigger portfolios know the market, have gone better at it, and know how to survive, not possible for smaller portfolio unless they are selling for $50-$100 which I would not call decent by any standard. They are just selling to other resellers which I would not call a market at all.

 

[trelgor]

You could say that if about 50% of the names were for sale and market was consuming at an astronomical rate. Most will agree, most of the names sold on after market do not make it live. Considering 98%+ of the domains registered are on the after-market, you cannot just compare the names registered 5 years ago to what you can register today "with the same effort" (time is money).

There is another factor that plays role - people just cannot hand register 100s of decent names today what they could do 5+ years ago. When we talk of percentages of sales, 2-4% that is true for larger portfolios and when it is comes to smaller portfolio you are probably coming to fractions (meaning no or 1 sale at most). Economical factor also plays role - bigger portfolios know the market, have gone better at it, and know how to survive, not possible for smaller portfolio unless they are selling for $50-$100 which I would not call decent by any standard. They are just selling to other resellers which I would not call a market at all.

I think the market is growing exponentially. The chinese flurry is an example. Which continent will be next? Do they speak english? Do they need an international appeal?

Who cares if names go live? Someone found something better and another sale was probably made. Or did you think that the enduser thought "oh well, launching that business was a really bad idea anyway"?

Big players have more solid percentages. No argument.

 

[London555]

In my experience, it is easier to sell brandable domain names on BB than on your own separate site. Previously, I had most of my names listed solely on my personal site and the sales rate was about half of what it is on BrandBucket.

I've been mostly buying hand reg'ed names for BB. I think it's a smart investment, but as many experts will tell you, domain age matters. I'll say it again, domain age matters. That means if you are hand reg'ing names, you may have to wait a while before the names become profitable.

I know that Estibot info should be taken through a filter, but I believe that Estibot is a useful tool if the info is taken through a filter. I've watched many of my hand reg'ed names go up in value over time. Many of us who have BB portfolio's full of new domains should be patient and let our names age out a little like a fine wine. The names should be valuable down road. I am not 100% sure each name will be worth more as time goes on, but I do have plenty of money riding this theory and I know that my older names sell better.

Mr Rice-when was the last time a client called BB and asked "I'd like to buy an AGED name for my new company" ?

 

[AndrewRice]

I can actually remember hand reg'ing brandables 5 years ago for BB. At the time, many people thought the names were junk, now those same types of names are selling for $XXXX on BB and elsewhere.

Clients may not ask for an 'aged' name per se, but I can assure you any type of due diligence would involve looking at a domain's age.

 

[hookbox]

I can actually remember hand reg'ing brandables 5 years ago for BB. At the time, many people thought the names were junk, now those same types of names are selling for $XXXX on BB and elsewhere.

Clients may not ask for an 'aged' name per se, but I can assure you any type of due diligence would involve looking at a domain's age.

Any type of due diligence would involve looking at a domain's age? True but not for brandables. If the name looks good and sounds good I could care less if its 20 years old or 20 days old. A good domain is a good domain.

 

[Recons.Com]

Age is one of the criteria. If it is a great name, I would not even waste time checking it.

 

[Brandworthy]

I have to say I think age is simply a side-effect of name quality - older names tend to be of higher quality, all other things held constant.

Of my 20 sales on BB so far I think only 1 was a hand reg. At least 19 were drops or deleting, and therefore had a previous history and domain age.

 

[Theydon]

Older names may sell better but it's not because of their age. 5 years ago there was better quality names available so those better quality names are selling. They aren't selling because they are 5 years old, they are selling because they are better names and came from a pool of much higher quality hand registration candidates.

I agree, I think end users are only drawn to the name, how it looks and how it sounds, I'm not sure age plays any part in their decision to buy a name on BB.

 

[Nerevar]

Of my 20 sales on BB so far I think only 1 was a hand reg. At least 19 were drops or deleting, and therefore had a previous history and domain age.

Almost any handreg nowadays has a previous history.

 

[London555]

Has anyone else been sent an email from LimoDomains.com?

 

[DNGear]

Has anyone else been sent an email from LimoDomains.com?

Anything interesting? i did not get any.

 

[London555]

Anything interesting? i did not get any.

It looks like they are trying to compete with BB but at a 15% commision rate. It's actually a good site from what I can tell-some excellent logos no listing fees etc - I have no idea how they got my email.

 

[London555]

In my experience, it is easier to sell brandable domain names on BB than on your own separate site. Previously, I had most of my names listed solely on my personal site and the sales rate was about half of what it is on BrandBucket.

I've been mostly buying hand reg'ed names for BB. I think it's a smart investment, but as many experts will tell you, domain age matters. I'll say it again, domain age matters. That means if you are hand reg'ing names, you may have to wait a while before the names become profitable.

I know that Estibot info should be taken through a filter, but I believe that Estibot is a useful tool if the info is taken through a filter. I've watched many of my hand reg'ed names go up in value over time. Many of us who have BB portfolio's full of new domains should be patient and let our names age out a little like a fine wine. The names should be valuable down road. I am not 100% sure each name will be worth more as time goes on, but I do have plenty of money riding this theory and I know that my older names sell better.

"Many of us that have BB names should be more patient etc" I'm not sure if you're post is trying to get people to leave names on BB for five years when there's now over 22,000 names on the BB site (at their expense not BB's) or what exactly that statement is that "they (Brandables) age like fine wine" that's nonsense. Did Amazon Yipit Yahoo Zulliy -the list goes on and on - have "aged" names?

 

[Brandworthy]

Almost any handreg nowadays has a previous history.

For pure brandables far less so...

 

[Dominic Belley]

Has anyone else been sent an email from LimoDomains.com?

I did not, but their domain is as bad as their website design. I doubt this is a serious competition to BB.

 

[London555]

I did not, but their domain is as bad as their website design. I doubt this is a serious competition to BB.

Maybe so but last time I looked they didn't have 22,000 names for buyers to look through either-lol