BrandBucket Experience

[xtremex]

hello

I am new to BrandBucket. Before getting my hands on this

I wish to experience about brandbucket from my fellow members


Thanks

 

[ApeXX]

You should contact endusers directly, like "Exxact Corp", "Exxact Transport" or "Exxact Holding". Maybe they would take it for much more.

The only issue is if the name is trademarked. Once you contact them advertising it for sale you've then lost your defense against cyber squatting (the have to prove you're trying to make money off of it).

 

[Dominic Belley]

The only issue is if the name is trademarked. Once you contact them advertising it for sale you've then lost your defense against cyber squatting (the have to prove you're trying to make money off of it).

Where do you go to see that?
From the search I made it seemed it was not a Trademark anymore since August 2014.

 

[Brandworthy]

IMO and its only my opinion not a fact, but I would think to be conservative and go with a 2% sell rate.

I think you're probably right Raymond, but there is one thing that makes me think their sell rate will be higher than portfolio owners such as BuyDomains - BB is an additional layer of filtering, and since they cherry pick the names they list there's probably a lot less negative bias (thinking one's name is better than it is) than portfolio owners are subject to.

FWIW I think a 2-3% sales rate is realistic based on their current inventory levels.

 

[RJ]

Where do you go to see that?
From the search I made it seemed it was not a Trademark anymore since August 2014.

Registering a trademark with the government is technically optional. A company can gains trademark rights to a term through usage and commerce. The best trademark search you can do is a Google search for the words to see how it's being used by others.

 

[hookbox]

Registering a trademark with the government is technically optional. A company can gains trademark rights to a term through usage and commerce. The best trademark search you can do is a Google search for the words to see how it's being used by others.

True but much harder to prove without a legitimate trademark. I don't think there are any UDRP attorney's that will side with the complainant if there isn't a real trademark filed. Under the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act the law only applies to real trademark owners.

 

[cocaseco]

I don't see any live trademarks for EXXACT. One thing to keep in mind is to also look for trademarks in other major companies. If I am buying anything more than a handreg, I usually check Canada, USA and EU. All three have easy and quick websites. This is especially true when you are trying to sell to a global company as they may not be OK with having to leave big chunks of potential markets out of their marketing plans. Not so much of an issue if the local small business is your target customer.

 

[RJ]

I don't think there are any UDRP attorney's that will side with the complainant if there isn't a real trademark filed.

Seriously? There have been plenty of UDRPs where the domain name holder lost the domain to a common law trademark holder.

This was #2 result when I Googled it, a case from last month:
http://www.thedomains.com/2015/05/2...in-udrp-based-on-common-law-trademark-rights/

 

[ApeXX]

Seriously? There have been plenty of UDRPs where the domain name holder lost the domain to a common law trademark holder.

This was #2 result when I Googled it, a case from last month:
http://www.thedomains.com/2015/05/2...in-udrp-based-on-common-law-trademark-rights/

Yeah to RJ's point there are many cases where a defendant lost the domain without owning a registered trademark. Your best bet is to not give them any reason to think you're using the domain in "bad faith".

 

[hookbox]

Seriously? There have been plenty of UDRPs where the domain name holder lost the domain to a common law trademark holder.

This was #2 result when I Googled it, a case from last month:
http://www.thedomains.com/2015/05/2...in-udrp-based-on-common-law-trademark-rights/

In your example the only reason the Complainant won was because the Respondent (domain registrant) was at one point affiliated with the company so he rightfully knew the name was being used. UDRP's with common law trademarks are very hard to win because it's hard to prove if the Respondent had prior knowledge of the common law trademark.

 

[NameFit]

One of the most common defense used by defendants for 'bad faith' is the registration date of domain (if it precedes the trademark filing date). as @RJ said, TM is not necessarily needed, the claimant has to show they have been using that name in commerce or otherwise and as @hookbox said, they are very hard for claimant to prove. Having a TM filing establishes a timeline which UDRP panel can base their decision on.

I am not sure how many buyers know when they buy a name in aftermarket, it is treated as 'new registration' and they loose all the 'age'.

 

[RJ]

UDRP's with common law trademarks are very hard to win because it's hard to prove if the Respondent had prior knowledge of the common law trademark.

Yes, it's true the burden is on the complainant to show they have established a trademark, but like ApeXX said,

Once you contact them advertising it for sale you've then lost your defense against cyber squatting (the have to prove you're trying to make money off of it).

Contacting a trademark holder and offering it for sale is indicative of bad faith. Whether it is a registered TM or Common Law TM is besides the point. The act of contacting them as a prospective buyer proves that you had knowledge about their mark.

 

[hookbox]

Yes, it's true the burden is on the complainant to show they have established a trademark, but like ApeXX said,


Contacting a trademark holder and offering it for sale is indicative of bad faith. Whether it is a registered TM or Common Law TM is besides the point. The act of contacting them as a prospective buyer proves that you had knowledge about their mark.

I agree with that.

 

[trelgor]

No sales here, but it is early..

The cumulative total of days I have had names published (aka live on the site, able to be bought by customers) is 971, with 0 sales. That number is how many days each of my published names have been live, all added together.

I have 44 names published, most of them went live within the past 2-3 weeks.

I've been able to track this number pretty easily because I have Excel spreadsheets where I record each Date Published for all of my accepted names. Then I just made another column: =TODAY()-DatePublishedCell. Then I just create a Sum at the bottom of the column.

In a 5% sell-through rate situation, you will sell 1 domain every 7,300 cumulative-listed-days (on average of course).

FWIW I had my 100th name accepted today. So I have 56 sitting in the queue, awaiting BrandBucket Review or Logo Design. None of my names have showed up in Pending Publishing for several days at least, now. So it is interesting to hear from @cocaseco that logos are done but not published -- maybe they have put that last phase on hold for a minute. In other words, maybe some of my logos are done, but the system is just not showing me that.

I have pulled back on regging for now, as I would like to see a sale or at least hear that others are getting some more sales, before plowing more energy down this road.

I'm at 1876 accumulated days with 1 sale. So I guess that would put me at about 25% sellthrough rate using your math.

 

[campout]

I'm at 1876 accumulated days with 1 sale. So I guess that would put me at about 25% sellthrough rate using your math.

19.5%

 

[rocky123]

Hi to all,
Recently I submitted around 10 domains to BB on 16th June. I got 2 of the domains reviewed. 1 accepted and 1 rejected. I think thats pretty fast review process.However my single letter dictionary word domain got rejected.
Anyway Kudos to BB.
however i have some doubts and need some help from NP community.
In the Edit Description we are asked to certify the ownership of social media accounts of the domain ( namely facebook ,twitter).So my queries in these regard

1. Is adding social media accounts mandatory ? Does not adding any social media accounts have any adverse effects on sales?
2. I cannot see any domains on BB listing with information regarding social media availability factor.
3. Rel b/w sales only domains vs domains with extension,social media account

what to do when u have the twitter handle but not the facebook page.
Any discussion in this regard is highly appreciated .

 

[starizec]

Hi to all,
Recently I submitted around 10 domains to BB on 16th June. I got 2 of the domains reviewed. 1 accepted and 1 rejected. I think thats pretty fast review process.However my single letter dictionary word domain got rejected.
Anyway Kudos to BB.
however i have some doubts and need some help from NP community.
In the Edit Description we are asked to certify the ownership of social media accounts of the domain ( namely facebook ,twitter).So my queries in these regard

1. Is adding social media accounts mandatory ? Does not adding any social media accounts have any adverse effects on sales?
2. I cannot see any domains on BB listing with information regarding social media availability factor.
3. Rel b/w sales only domains vs domains with extension,social media account

what to do when u have the twitter handle but not the facebook page.
Any discussion in this regard is highly appreciated .

What is single letter dictionary word?

 

[trelgor]

What is single letter dictionary word?

A.com

I.com

 

[Doron Vermaat]

1. Is adding social media accounts mandatory ? Does not adding any social media accounts have any adverse effects on sales?
2. I cannot see any domains on BB listing with information regarding social media availability factor.
3. Rel b/w sales only domains vs domains with extension,social media account

1. No it is optional. I've never do so and mt guess would be that the majority of the names listed do not have any social media accounts attached to it. I wouldn't be able to tell you if there is any correlation between sales of domains only vs those that have social accounts but my guess would be that is negligible.

 

[rocky123]

Hmm single word typo. Thanks both of u.

 

[starizec]

Do you guys use comment box when submiting domains? (explaining why is your domain good for their market)
If yes, did you noticed any difrence if you don't use it?