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Started a series called Brandable Daily Sales Analysis and would like to share some useful discoveries.
Lets now dive in.

First would be Fitalytics (dot) com

Note the following.

Registration Date: 2010-06-02

Month of Sale: 2016-05

Domain Length: 10 Characters

Domain History:
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As you can see the current nameserver from the image suggests that the domain was recently added to brandbucket marketplace. Also that the domain was first registered back in 2008 although the current registration date is 2010-06-02 We can also see that it’s very likely that the domain has changed hands prior its sale on brandbucket.

Other Extensions : 1 other extensions has been taken

Google Popularity: On Google first page results it has 9 similar mentions excluding where domain is brandbucket. The most interesting part is that the name “Fitalytic” was mentioned on CrunchBase. We can conclude that it’s Google Popularity is strong.

Social Handles: It’sTwitter has been taking since 2012. The Facebook handle has also been taken.

Dictionary Keywords: Fit, and Italy.

Brandbucket Sold Keyword: Aly Example of sold domain that contain such keyword dailydealy.com .

Other Keywords: Taly, Alytic, Aly

Similar End User Domain currently in use: talytics.com This simply suggests some trends from the word Alytic.

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Ok so it was priced 2 years ago. Why does that matter? Abdullah was talking about names from 2009 not 2014.
BB priced the domain in 2009 , and the owner never published it and god only knows how many times it dropped . I regged and their system said the domain is already in the system so oncw it wqs moved to my account it was 595
 
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One thing is certain, if you come across a domain that was approved in 09/10 etc and reg, and inform them, they will move it to your account and it is on you to tell them about the price but if you go ahead and publish, of course it will sell at that low price
 
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BB priced the domain in 2009 , and the owner never published it and god only knows how many times it dropped . I regged and their system said the domain is already in the system so oncw it wqs moved to my account it was 595
It must have been one of their own drops because I don't think they had many names in their system that they didn't own in 2009. I don't even think they had a way of knowing if a name was previously submitted back in 2009. It seems like the system of knowing what was previously submitted only started recently.
 
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FWIW I think Novanym are branding specialists, and watching their inventory would be much more fruitful than watching Namerific. I think they put quite a lot of work into their names.

As a former seller on Namerific, I know that my names didn't move at all there after the change in ownership a couple of years ago. Not sure there's much to be gained watching them.
I checked out their inventory, and a lot of their names follow the increasingly common trend of deriving (and then hand registering) brandable versions based on the “proper” version of those brandable names (that have usually been registered years ago).

Some examples from their inventory:

K i n g a r u - An attempt at blending “King” and “Kangaroo”, which would result in “Kingaroo” (the .com has been registered since 2004, and is for sale @ Afternic). However, by changing the double “oo” of kangaroo into a single “u”, the pronunciation changes from kin·ga·roo to kin·garu, and the phonetic play on kangaroo is lost. Registered in 2015.

L u x u L u x - The standard and ideal version would be LuxLux (registered since 2001), but by sandwiching a “u” between lux and lux, they made a name that is available to hand reg. Registered in 2016.

L o c a M e t r o - Based on Local Metro (registered since 2004), but removing the last “l” in “local” and turning it into “loca” does not make sense (what is a "loca"?). Hand registered in 2015. The properly spelled .com is for sale through DNS.

K i d i C a t - Based on Kiddie Cat (registered since 2012). Turning “Kiddie” into “Kidi” is way too much hacking of one word in a two keyword brandable, as both keywords should be spelled properly for two keyword domains. Asking price: £5100. Registered in 2016. The properly spelled KiddieCat.com is for sale at HugeDomains for $2395. KiddiCat.com is available to hand reg.

T r i k s y - I suppose it is an attempt at “tricksy” (registered in 2000), which is “trick” + the “-sy” suffix, which is usually added to form diminutive nouns and adjectives. However, turning “trick” into “trik”, and then adding -sy at the end, does not really make sense. Registered in 2015. Tricksy is for sale at $1438 @ Fabulous.

M o t a W a y - Based on, the mainly British word, motorway. The “correct” brandable version would be MotoWay (registered since 2003), where "Moto" is clearly a shortened version of "Motor", which is something lots of auto brands have done in the past. However, there is no precedent for turning “motor” into “mota”, and it does not make sense to do so (yet they are asking £19500 for m o t a w a y - which makes it the most expensive domain in their inventory). Registered in 2016. MotoWay.com is offered by BuyDomains for $4388.

Kingaroo, LuxLux, LocalMetro, KiddieCat, Tricksy, and to a lesser extent, MotoWay, follow standard conventions of brandable names, and all make for good brands. The versions created by Novanym do not (in my opinion) make for good brands, and if they are “naming experts”, it’s strange that they try to get their buyers to brand around such names, instead of the properly spelled versions (especially when the proper version is available for sale).

BrandBucket has been doing something similar, and they are publishing lots of names that go against their own stated conventions of what names they accept. Of course, what a “brandable domain” is, and has always been, a contested notion, but as the brandable domain space matures, general conventions have developed, and many of the marketplaces themselves give guidelines that should be considered the minimum requirements for considering a domain to be a good brandable brand name, and by extension, a good brandable domain. For example, here are some points offered by BrandBucket:

For one keyword based names:
- If the name is based on a dictionary word -- and sounds the same as that word -- it should have no more than one spelling variation or "error" away from the original word. This makes it easy to explain to customers. For example: Digg is "dig with two g's".

- Spelling should be as expected.

For two keyword domains:
- Both words should be spelled fully and correctly.
- The words should have something in common, or a linguistic connection (same first letter, same vowel sound, etc.). They can also be a common phrase, or play on a common phrase.
- One (or both) of the words should relate to either a popular industry, or be broad enough to apply to many different types of industries.


These seem like really basic requirements, but BrandBucket has been publishing an increasing amount of one keyword names (e.g. keyword+suffix) that have two to three spelling variations or “hacks” away from the root keyword, for example by adding the -ster suffix to a keyword, and then hacking it once more and making Keywordster into Keywordstr. Similarly, I see lots of two keyword domains where one of the two keywords is misspelled. In other words, there is a "standard" or "ideal" version of these domains, yet there is a shift towards publishing multiple derivative variations of one and two keyword brandable domains.

As the pool of good “proper” brandable domains available for hand registration has been exhausted, and as reseller prices for expiring and dropping brandable domains are skyrocketing, brandable marketplaces have made the curious move of lowering their standards below the very basic guidelines outlined above, which enables the continuation of hand regging of names to be published. Across all the brandable marketplaces (BB, BR, NR, along with all the smaller ones), I am increasingly seeing derivative versions of already brandable domains being published, but with the same, or even higher, asking prices as they would have put on the “proper” versions of those names. That’s going to lead to further quality confusion and dilution of the brandable domain space, which is going to hurt the marketplaces themselves, and for regular sellers (non-marketplace owners) it certainly lowers the value added to having a brandable domain listed with a brandable marketplace.
 
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Kingaroo, LuxLux, LocalMetro, KiddieCat, Tricksy, and to a lesser extent, MotoWay, follow standard conventions of brandable names, and all make for good brands.

Well said.
 
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Nice, analysis Arca. Amazing how well some of these 'str' endings do in the aftermarket:
boastr.com 1,000 USD 1/17/2011 Sedo
glastr.de 1,460 USD 10/7/2009 Sedo
plastr.com 1,490 USD 2/12/2011 Sedo
mastr.com 13,500 USD 11/13/2013 Sedo
xoopstr.org 193 USD 11/2/2013 GoDaddy
bestr.com 2,388 USD 5/9/2012 Afternic
haustr.de 3,504 USD 10/7/2009 Sedo
castr.com 3,999 USD 5/28/2014 Sedo
hipstr.com 300 USD 8/17/2008 Sedo
multipostr.info 367 USD 8/21/2016 GoDaddy
vestr.com 5,400 USD 2/23/2016 Uniregistry
 
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Nice, analysis Arca. Amazing how well some of these 'str' endings do in the aftermarket:
boastr.com 1,000 USD 1/17/2011 Sedo
glastr.de 1,460 USD 10/7/2009 Sedo
plastr.com 1,490 USD 2/12/2011 Sedo
mastr.com 13,500 USD 11/13/2013 Sedo
xoopstr.org 193 USD 11/2/2013 GoDaddy
bestr.com 2,388 USD 5/9/2012 Afternic
haustr.de 3,504 USD 10/7/2009 Sedo
castr.com 3,999 USD 5/28/2014 Sedo
hipstr.com 300 USD 8/17/2008 Sedo
multipostr.info 367 USD 8/21/2016 GoDaddy
vestr.com 5,400 USD 2/23/2016 Uniregistry
Funny you should mention those, I grabbed mindstr earlier today :)
 
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The aftermarket sales:
Hipstr - Hipster is one word, so that’s just one hack
Mastr - A play on the word “master” - One hack
Boastr - Based on the word “boaster” - Again, one hack
Plastr - Plaster is a word, so this is also just one hack
Castr - Caster is a dictionary word, so that’s also one hack

BrandBucket published:
Swapstr - Two hacks: 1) swap + ster = Swapster. 2) Swapster - e = Swapstr.
Digstr - Two hacks (there is no such thing as a digster, so it’s dig+ster, minus the e in -ster).
Thumbstr - two hacks (unless a thumbster is a thing)
Stockstr - two hacks
Eatstr - two hacks
Hopstr - two hacks
Picstr - two hacks
Jogstr - two hacks

Most of the brandable aftermarket sales you mentioned follow the standard conventions of brandable domains, by hacking a dictionary word one time. I don't consider the .org and .de names to be brandable. The BB examples do not follow BB's own guidelines, as they add -ster to a word, and then hack it once more by omitting the "e" from "-ster". The "proper" versions of those names are:

Swapster
Digster
Thumbster
Stockster
Eatster
Picster
Jogster

The -ster suffix hack was just one example. I can list published names that are double (and triple) hacked in a multitude of other ways, such as a misspelled dictionary word + a suffix, or two keyword names where one of the two keywords are hacked, or blended words/portmanteaus that are derivative of how it should have been spelt.
 
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Amazing detailing by Arca in her analysis and observations. Comments backed by strong and valid points. Insightful. Nice to read.
 
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Amazing detailing by Arca in her analysis and observations. Comments backed by strong and valid points. Insightful. Nice to read.
Interesting, I never knew Arca was a her. :)
 
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Interesting, I never knew Arca was a her. :)
my bad i thought its her. cant even edit the comment. anyways rest of what i said still holds true for him. :)
 
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The aftermarket sales:
Hipstr - Hipster is one word, so that’s just one hack
Mastr - A play on the word “master” - One hack
Boastr - Based on the word “boaster” - Again, one hack
Plastr - Plaster is a word, so this is also just one hack
Castr - Caster is a dictionary word, so that’s also one hack

BrandBucket published:
Swapstr - Two hacks: 1) swap + ster = Swapster. 2) Swapster - e = Swapstr.
Digstr - Two hacks (there is no such thing as a digster, so it’s dig+ster, minus the e in -ster).
Thumbstr - two hacks (unless a thumbster is a thing)
Stockstr - two hacks
Eatstr - two hacks
Hopstr - two hacks
Picstr - two hacks
Jogstr - two hacks

Most of the brandable aftermarket sales you mentioned follow the standard conventions of brandable domains, by hacking a dictionary word one time. I don't consider the .org and .de names to be brandable. The BB examples do not follow BB's own guidelines, as they add -ster to a word, and then hack it once more by omitting the "e" from "-ster". The "proper" versions of those names are:

Swapster
Digster
Thumbster
Stockster
Eatster
Picster
Jogster

The -ster suffix hack was just one example. I can list published names that are double (and triple) hacked in a multitude of other ways, such as a misspelled dictionary word + a suffix, or two keyword names where one of the two keywords are hacked, or blended words/portmanteaus that are derivative of how it should have been spelt.
There are 4,159 .coms from 5 to 10 letters long that end in STR and they are definitely not all owned by domainers. Many are more than one word and in use which means there is a market for them somewhere. That market may not always show up on Namebio though. If there are many live websites with these shitty names then someone buys/registers them. There's a market for anything it's just some markets are better than others.
 
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There are 4,159 .coms from 5 to 10 letters long that end in STR and they are definitely not all owned by domainers.

Top Alexa ranked domains ending in STR.com

22,301 Bkstr.com - Bookster now eFollett?
26,722 - Blastr.com - Blaster
27,667 - IconMonstr.com - IconMonster
82,655 - SaaStr.com - Software As A Service
144,829 - Invstr.com - Investor
145,422 - WishListr.com - WishLister
166,754 - Juristr.com ? - Juri Strumpflohner Software Architect, JavaScript coder, martial arts practitioner
178,636 Bookstr.com - Bookster
188,085 ZenCastr.com - ZenCaster
195,262 Cookstr.com - Cookster
221,043 Bigstr.com - Bigster
228042 eListr.com - eLister
239701 str.com
243133 ginstr.com - Ginster
281968 asiamonstr.com - AsiaMonster
296484 WebListr.com - WebLister
302732 PostFastr.com - PostFaster

340,310 Industr.com
364,543 Bboostr.com
401,601 Sigstr.com
412,813 Iranlustr.com
503,019 Hpmstr.com
562,850 Optnmnstr.com
581,492 GameofThronestr.com
590,290 Genstr.com
618,150 Avtodnestr.com
649,653 Dimastr.com
684,214 B**bstr.com **Adult**

831,186 Chubstr.com - Chubster
854,040 eBoostr.com
856,172 Testr.com.br

935,599 metstr.com
937,213 Scenestr.com.au
954,092 Regreestr.com
994,576 Roscadastr.com
 
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There are 4,159 .coms from 5 to 10 letters long that end in STR and they are definitely not all owned by domainers. Many are more than one word and in use which means there is a market for them somewhere. That market may not always show up on Namebio though. If there are many live websites with these sh*tty names then someone buys/registers them. There's a market for anything it's just some markets are better than others.

How did you calculate the 4,159?
 
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Don't think there is a need to.

Don't think there is a need to because...?

They rank high in a lot of important keywords. They don't charge listing fee's, and have lower commission fee's than most marketplaces. In my opinion, marketplaces that sell out of house (domains besides there own) are more important to track. Marketplaces don't want to get caught shill marketing, ie their incentive not to falsify sales just to create a buzz. Not saying this is going on, just saying, from a brandable domainer competition stand point, domainers like to know what type of domains sell on each marketplaces. Size of marketplace + sales help determine sell through rates, and investment strategies.

As to tracking Efty hosted marketplaces, why? To see brandables domains that drop, and are available for reg? How to tell if it changed hands between a domainer on NP and if it was an actual enduser sale?
 
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Don't think there is a need to because...?

They rank high in a lot of important keywords. They don't charge listing fee's, and have lower commission fee's than most marketplaces. In my opinion, marketplaces that sell out of house (domains besides there own) are more important to track. Marketplaces don't want to get caught shill marketing, ie their incentive not to falsify sales just to create a buzz. Not saying this is going on, just saying, from a brandable domainer competition stand point, domainers like to know what type of domains sell on each marketplaces. Size of marketplace + sales help determine sell through rates, and investment strategies.

As to tracking Efty hosted marketplaces, why? To see brandables domains that drop, and are available for reg? How to tell if it changed hands between a domainer on NP and if it was an actual enduser sale?

There are almost infinite number of brandable marketplaces and to have all in my radar might not be a good strategy? So, I just measure the performance of each and if it pass the performance test then they go into my bucket.

About shill marketing, it something to definitely lookout for when 7/24 ~ 30% of BR sales belongs to a specific person... Perhaps even higher then Krell?
 
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@Dnbolt what is your minimum requirement or measurement to track marketplaces?

this is what ii was told when i asked branddo about their sales,

Average $45,800 per month and that is in growth.

answer for another inquiry

Thanks for contacting BrandDo

You can see all public sales on our live website, this private sales is not published.

Please let us know if you need further information or assistance.

Kind regards

Kim Fletcher | BrandDo
 
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@Dnbolt what is your minimum requirement or measurement to track marketplaces?

this is what ii was told when i asked branddo about their sales,

Average $45,800 per month and that is in growth.

answer for another inquiry

Thanks for contacting BrandDo

You can see all public sales on our live website, this private sales is not published.

Please let us know if you need further information or assistance.

Kind regards

Kim Fletcher | BrandDo

Sorry, for security reasons I will have to withhold this information. The wall has ears.
 
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q is one of the least desired first letter chars, so interesting to see that a buyer purchased qraph.com
 
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q is one of the least desired first letter chars, so interesting to see that a buyer purchased qraph.com

Real interesting purchase. Do they like it as a graph hack? q meant to look like a g? Suppose time will tell.

As to Q being the least desired starting letter, how do you figure? If argue that the sample size is smaller than most letters given the amount of English words that start with Q. Can you share a list of bb sold domains that begin with Q? I remember bb sold Qashier and Qandle.
 
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