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Started a series called Brandable Daily Sales Analysis and would like to share some useful discoveries.
Lets now dive in.

First would be Fitalytics (dot) com

Note the following.

Registration Date: 2010-06-02

Month of Sale: 2016-05

Domain Length: 10 Characters

Domain History:
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As you can see the current nameserver from the image suggests that the domain was recently added to brandbucket marketplace. Also that the domain was first registered back in 2008 although the current registration date is 2010-06-02 We can also see that it’s very likely that the domain has changed hands prior its sale on brandbucket.

Other Extensions : 1 other extensions has been taken

Google Popularity: On Google first page results it has 9 similar mentions excluding where domain is brandbucket. The most interesting part is that the name “Fitalytic” was mentioned on CrunchBase. We can conclude that it’s Google Popularity is strong.

Social Handles: It’sTwitter has been taking since 2012. The Facebook handle has also been taken.

Dictionary Keywords: Fit, and Italy.

Brandbucket Sold Keyword: Aly Example of sold domain that contain such keyword dailydealy.com .

Other Keywords: Taly, Alytic, Aly

Similar End User Domain currently in use: talytics.com This simply suggests some trends from the word Alytic.

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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
As some of you know i'm pretty transparant about my acquisitions, sales and strategy. I stopped listing new names on BB (and BR) around November last year but decided to keep the majority of my listings that are already on these sites up.

Today I would not have listed a name such as Jetse.com with BB as i'm confident a name of this type can ultimately pull in an offer on it's own with a decent For-Sale landing page.

During the last few month's I've sold an average of one brandable domain each month directly via their For-Sale landing pages for around $3000 each which is double or sometimes tripple the revenue I make on a BB or BR sale after commission, logo and Paypal fees. For me this is enough proof the strategy works for me personally. But as @equity78 already pointed out, not everyone has the time or the skills to do their own negotiations. I always find it extremely comfortable to sell a name via BB or BR because besides pushing or transfering your name out there's zero work to be done.

Frank Schilling once said that it's the industries "dirty little secret" that the fast majority of domains sell via direct navigation (aka landing pages) but I don't think it's fair to criticise BB for making a percentage of their sales this way when every other marketplace out there that is offering parked pages such as Sedo, Afternic and even Flippa is doing the exact same thing.

If BB (or BR) would offer transparity and a lower commission on sales completed via it's landing pages it would however be a real game changer and I might be tempted to list more of my names again.

My advice for (aspiring) BB sellers would be to only list lower value names such as handregs, GoDaddy closeouts or drops with BB because if they sell at BB pricing it's still an awesome ROI and BB does a terrific job packaging them with a great marketing pitch and logo which I do believe helps drive some sales and justify a asking price a lot of sellers wouldn't be able to negotiate on their own for these type of names.

For higher value names that you know will attract inquiries and offers on their own a good For-Sale landing page is all you need. Imo
 
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Image update on bbsales at Dnbolt are bit slow and costs me, considering if to switch back to text format. Here are further Junes sales discovered.

qubbo(.)com
sentryshield(.)com
creatorr(.)com
accelcapital(.)com
ugru(.)com
apqu(.)com
medforge(.)com
secureedge(.)com
masterfund(.)com
vroxy(.)com
qmos(.)com
shareably(.)com
caretap(.)com
rightz(.)com
avonto(.)com
clickreach(.)com
launchgrove(.)com
operationslab(.)com
fusemap(.)com
lendity(.)com
jetse(.)com

Jetse is mine. I received an email this morning that it sold.
 
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Congrats to @Doron Vermaat for selling Productly.com for $5,000, he found the name on the Go Daddy Auctions post on TLDinvestors.com. Another name that was mentioned one day, TextFuel.com, I ended up winning for $17, I sold yesterday on Sedo. Parked it there and just set a buy it now of $549. Nothing spectacular but for $17, not bad.
 
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Second BrandBucket sale PinChat.com $1,595 buyer from China, I acquired it in the portfolio buy with Inteleca.com and Phiona.com.
 
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In bb's defense, they give this seller front page premium listing coverage often. Rightfully so, as this seller lists some great domains, including a LLL.com. With such great domains, and length of membership, we can't confirm the seller pays 30%.

The seller, @oneventures has been a bb seller for as long as @margotb...

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Yes, I am the registrant of keyo. First of all the sale is not confirmed yet, so let's wait for that :) Secondly, also remember that not all BB names are sold at their full listing price.

I pay 30 percent commission and always have. I don't know if other people manage to pay less. As to people who ask why not just sell directly instead of using BB? To that I will say that I have certainly tried that path. For more than 10 years at Sedo and by contacting potential end-users. In my case, BB has given me a better return even after the commission. So while BB might not work for everyone, it does for me.

Regarding using privacy, it is true that I don't have a particular interest in the whole world knowing what names I own. But I have nothing against DNBolt publishing sold names with prices.
 
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Another brandable sales worth looking into:

youthgevity(.)com
fastpad(.)com
oodi(.)com
pulsetap(.)com
saveitup(.)com
xendoo(.)com
rentolio(.)com
curate(.)ly
tripspin(.)com
qashier(.)com
dwela(.)com
helpbase(.)com
verette(.)com
runwaylabs(.)com
littlebunny(.)com
madninja(.)com
fromafar(.)com
ecree(.)com
healthycause(.)com
milexa(.)com
xuria(.)com

As usual verify that these names sold for if you are uncertain. Brandable Domain Scholars are invited to share some valuable insights on this supposed sales.

So far June has been a great month for me on BB. I sold

V r o x / y
S h a r e a b l / y
Q a s h i e / r
F a s t P a / d
 
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Brandbucket rejected one of the domains I submitted to them after drop catching but days later got an inquiry from an end user and sold for $700
 
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Any more insight into these bb rejectz
Unfortunately they're not very good names. Don't register any dragon names with words like market, invest etc.....they don't match. You registered TargetPanda when good alliterations like TargetTiger and TargetTurtle are available. Not saying these are great names but a name that sounds and flows better will sell before one that doesn't. Bee names are good but BB won't accept a name with the keyword Fabric. The fabric market is not their target. Bear names are good but the keyword campus is not. Tiger is good but the keyword motion is just ok. Capital is good but papa is not. No one is ever going to name themselves that. GlamWizard is actually pretty good for something relating to style, fashion, women etc....I would keep it and list it for under 500 bucks.

To register good names first focus on the popular keywords. Make a list of the top 50-100 and then find names that fit with those keywords. If you like animal type names then see what is registered with a certain popular keyword + animal. If many of the good animals are available then chances are the keyword is not that popular. The key is to find popular keyword + popular animal but not any random keyword with any random animal. Study what is registered first and work your way backwards to find good names that are unregistered.
 
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Finally I was able to quickly compile the list of Namebio sold available domains. Please do let me know what you think about the list: https://dnbolt.com/blog/namebio-expired-domain-name-sales-history/

Let me know if there are any issues.

As you may know dnbolt.com/blog is two months behind brandbucket monthly sales report analysis. This because I am now back to the school bench. Will appreciate if anyone is interested to run it.
 
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Great info ,you made me curious now.
Can you tell some of the names which you sold via landing pages??What do you see while buying them??How much did you pay for them in the first place and was there no marketing involved??

Its cool if you dont wanna disclose.

In the last 3 months:

Stagr.com - $3750
SneakerHero.com - $3,450
Gozer.com - $4,250

Most of the cost me $250 or less. I don't do any outbound marketing. Keep in mind I do have a portfolio of around 500+ brandables so I have to sell regularly to cover renewal fees.
 
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If I recall correctly they used to be called "Staff Picks" a while back... So I would imagine that the staff picks which ones are featured - or at the least there is an algorithm in play.

I have had some names featured and some names not. Generally I can agree that my names that are featured are better than the ones that weren't.

I personally have no knowledge of rather anyone gets free listings at BB or not, but in all honesty - if you ran a brandable marketplace would you charge yourself to list on it? I mean honestly, pretty much everyone will answer that (even if under their breath) with an "of course not".

Would this bring into question ethics? Possibly, but the root of the ethic question would be if you would allow employees to list names on the marketplace. But in the particular case you are referring he was hired because he was such a good seller. So I couldn't imgaine it would be reasonable to ask him to step away from listing on the platform.

The only way you would be able to have a 100% unbiased brandable marketplace is if it is ran by a team who do not own any of the inventory... But that would be a very odd thing as the only people interested in building a brandable marketplace would be domainers. (or marketers - but that is a blurry line where the marketers are of course into domaining as well)

Basically it comes down to BB opened up the flood gates on new sellers and domains, which in turn is going to open the flood gates on people who feel mistreated for one reason or another. IMO BB has no real good way to respond to the recent criticisms as it will continue to come at them no matter what they say.

The best thing BB can do is continue to sell names, and to work hard at keeping their sale through rate up as the inventory rises. This will keep the majority of sellers happy. Past that I do not believe they have any responsibility to appease every seller that has a domain with them. That is an impossible task when you consider that everyone here on NP has their own personal interest in mind, a keyboard, and time to spend blasting everything they consider unfair.

On the other side of the coin you have blind BB supporters who drank too much koolaide, foaming at the mouth like a rabbid retarded pit bull - quick to personally attack anyone who has anything to say, even when it is constructive critism. This, I believe, just further fans the flames of any discontent and damages chances of a productive conversation.

None-the-less everybody just needs to calm down... Decide if a partnership with BB is in their best interest, and make business decisions based off of reality and math - and not from emotion or conspiracy theories.

Just my $0.02 ...
 
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The future in brandables is 5 letter words imo.
That's actually not my opinion. But I think 5L names are still available at reasonable prices, and present less competition at drop/deleting auction, so represent a viable strategy to new BrandBucket participants. I still think keywords will outshine invented names well into the future FWIW.

And just to show that BB can get it wrong with their acceptances, and doesn't always offer the best ROI for brandable names: last week I had 2 sales, one a BB accepted name, the other a BB reject I sold via a Uniregistry lander. Both names were $5 closeouts on Godaddy, the former picked up in March this year and the latter in October 2015. The BB name sold for ~$2K, so will net me $1,295. The rejected BB name sold for $3,000 with the only cost to me the $40 international remittance fee Escrow.com charges. Both domains were 2-word names.
 
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From a quick analysis we have top sellers as follows.

.../mediaplow =>21
.../oneventures =>3
Abdullah Alkulaibi =>2
Timothy Culpepper => 2
(findyourdomain.com) => 2
.../brandiogo => 2
../brandtrapper=> 2
Ahmad Rizki (brands.so) => 2
/boxador =>2

Note: 100% accuracy is not guaranteed
=> means " = "
I knew why I didnt make any sales in July...another Abdullah replaced me lol :-P
 
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FWIW I think Novanym are branding specialists, and watching their inventory would be much more fruitful than watching Namerific. I think they put quite a lot of work into their names.

As a former seller on Namerific, I know that my names didn't move at all there after the change in ownership a couple of years ago. Not sure there's much to be gained watching them.
I checked out their inventory, and a lot of their names follow the increasingly common trend of deriving (and then hand registering) brandable versions based on the “proper” version of those brandable names (that have usually been registered years ago).

Some examples from their inventory:

K i n g a r u - An attempt at blending “King” and “Kangaroo”, which would result in “Kingaroo” (the .com has been registered since 2004, and is for sale @ Afternic). However, by changing the double “oo” of kangaroo into a single “u”, the pronunciation changes from kin·ga·roo to kin·garu, and the phonetic play on kangaroo is lost. Registered in 2015.

L u x u L u x - The standard and ideal version would be LuxLux (registered since 2001), but by sandwiching a “u” between lux and lux, they made a name that is available to hand reg. Registered in 2016.

L o c a M e t r o - Based on Local Metro (registered since 2004), but removing the last “l” in “local” and turning it into “loca” does not make sense (what is a "loca"?). Hand registered in 2015. The properly spelled .com is for sale through DNS.

K i d i C a t - Based on Kiddie Cat (registered since 2012). Turning “Kiddie” into “Kidi” is way too much hacking of one word in a two keyword brandable, as both keywords should be spelled properly for two keyword domains. Asking price: £5100. Registered in 2016. The properly spelled KiddieCat.com is for sale at HugeDomains for $2395. KiddiCat.com is available to hand reg.

T r i k s y - I suppose it is an attempt at “tricksy” (registered in 2000), which is “trick” + the “-sy” suffix, which is usually added to form diminutive nouns and adjectives. However, turning “trick” into “trik”, and then adding -sy at the end, does not really make sense. Registered in 2015. Tricksy is for sale at $1438 @ Fabulous.

M o t a W a y - Based on, the mainly British word, motorway. The “correct” brandable version would be MotoWay (registered since 2003), where "Moto" is clearly a shortened version of "Motor", which is something lots of auto brands have done in the past. However, there is no precedent for turning “motor” into “mota”, and it does not make sense to do so (yet they are asking £19500 for m o t a w a y - which makes it the most expensive domain in their inventory). Registered in 2016. MotoWay.com is offered by BuyDomains for $4388.

Kingaroo, LuxLux, LocalMetro, KiddieCat, Tricksy, and to a lesser extent, MotoWay, follow standard conventions of brandable names, and all make for good brands. The versions created by Novanym do not (in my opinion) make for good brands, and if they are “naming experts”, it’s strange that they try to get their buyers to brand around such names, instead of the properly spelled versions (especially when the proper version is available for sale).

BrandBucket has been doing something similar, and they are publishing lots of names that go against their own stated conventions of what names they accept. Of course, what a “brandable domain” is, and has always been, a contested notion, but as the brandable domain space matures, general conventions have developed, and many of the marketplaces themselves give guidelines that should be considered the minimum requirements for considering a domain to be a good brandable brand name, and by extension, a good brandable domain. For example, here are some points offered by BrandBucket:

For one keyword based names:
- If the name is based on a dictionary word -- and sounds the same as that word -- it should have no more than one spelling variation or "error" away from the original word. This makes it easy to explain to customers. For example: Digg is "dig with two g's".

- Spelling should be as expected.

For two keyword domains:
- Both words should be spelled fully and correctly.
- The words should have something in common, or a linguistic connection (same first letter, same vowel sound, etc.). They can also be a common phrase, or play on a common phrase.
- One (or both) of the words should relate to either a popular industry, or be broad enough to apply to many different types of industries.


These seem like really basic requirements, but BrandBucket has been publishing an increasing amount of one keyword names (e.g. keyword+suffix) that have two to three spelling variations or “hacks” away from the root keyword, for example by adding the -ster suffix to a keyword, and then hacking it once more and making Keywordster into Keywordstr. Similarly, I see lots of two keyword domains where one of the two keywords is misspelled. In other words, there is a "standard" or "ideal" version of these domains, yet there is a shift towards publishing multiple derivative variations of one and two keyword brandable domains.

As the pool of good “proper” brandable domains available for hand registration has been exhausted, and as reseller prices for expiring and dropping brandable domains are skyrocketing, brandable marketplaces have made the curious move of lowering their standards below the very basic guidelines outlined above, which enables the continuation of hand regging of names to be published. Across all the brandable marketplaces (BB, BR, NR, along with all the smaller ones), I am increasingly seeing derivative versions of already brandable domains being published, but with the same, or even higher, asking prices as they would have put on the “proper” versions of those names. That’s going to lead to further quality confusion and dilution of the brandable domain space, which is going to hurt the marketplaces themselves, and for regular sellers (non-marketplace owners) it certainly lowers the value added to having a brandable domain listed with a brandable marketplace.
 
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I agree... and not all wealthy lawyers are smart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Garry_Hoy

I generalized, and made a logical fallacy.

Every one of the aforementioned people are knowledgeable and deserver better than the Brand Bucket bamboozle.

I wonder how many names have been sold via the landing pages of their listed domains, or if the BB rigid price structure cost them thousands that an interested buyer would have paid.

It's hard for me not to use the word 'stupid' When someone uses BB and is fully aware of the practices that pinch the pockets of domainers, and how they leverage the platform to use your listings to promote their other domain options.

I believe in the tenet, "united we stand divided we fall."

When you list with BB, you are saying that everything is okay with their practices.

I think every domain investor deserves better than the current state of their marketplace.

Look there will always be things that need to be fixed, plenty of people don't understand why Go Daddy or Sedo get the commission that they get as well.

I agree on the landing page and would like to see transparency on how a sale gets done. For instance I sold 3 domains at Sedo to start the year, it was really odd, had not had a sale for months there and then one a day for three days, but they break it down 10% commission on HOapp.com you had it parked with us and buy it now, 5TV.net 20% because it came from the MLS so you had it parked here and buy it now but it is 10% more because the sale did not originate on Sedo.

I wish the brandable boutiques would adopt the same, if someone called in as a result of your marketing and advertising one commission, someone typed in PinkScarf.com and clicked buy it now a lower commission.
 
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You missed my point. BB is the only market place that consistently achieves the highest return on investment. To achieve an extraordinary ROI you dont need to sell a domain more than $5000. BB consistently sells hand regged domains for around $3000. I doubt very much if any of the top sales in 2015 you reported were hand regged domains.
BB are certainly a good channel for selling hand registered domains at respectable end-user prices (circa ~$2K rather than the $3K you mention), but these sales are anything but consistent. Many names they list will never sell, and many names they sell are not hand registered. There is also substantial debate over whether or not BB leaves money on the table. They have a lot of high-end names listed now, but I think there's a gap in the 4-10K range due to an inherent bias in how they price.

I'm also surprised at how bullish you are given that you haven't sold any names on BB yet. I've sold 34 names on BB, and I'm certainly not as positive as you seem to be. I like BB a lot as a company. They are well run, and in my experience straight shooters. But I dislike the prevailing trends I see:

1. Increased demand for good brandables at wholesale level pushing up reseller prices (I'm not talking about reselling BB accepted names, but instead competition to buy brandables at drop/deleting auctions);
2. Compression of retail asking prices set by BB for entry level names;
3. Lower sales rates leading to decreased returns at seller level;

Overall I think these 3 trends are eroding the "extraordinary ROI" you refer to. Being blunt, I think you missed the boat for the incredible returns that have now become Brandbucket lore. Can you still make good money? Sure. But not the same sort of returns many dream of.

FWIW if I was starting now I'd focus only on hand-reg invented names. I'd probably hone this further by trying to build as good a 5L/6L portfolio as I possibly could.
 
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I sold StartFox.com on BB sometimes last year. As for RebelFox, I think it's a nice name too. BB rejects a lot of good names and accepts some questionable ones. I would not recommend building your investment strategy around what type of names they accept.
 
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Some multi million dollar company started with little funding as $500 and brandroot needs $500 per new user :|. They have humbly given Brandbucket the permission to rule and crunch them in terms of performance.

Respectfully, I disagree.

As I see it, there are (loosely) 4 types of domainers that use these marketplaces...

The Educated Domainer
This guy knows what he is doing. He knows what domains sell. He is listing names that he has owned and held for many years or has bought in the $xxx+ region. He lists his domains because he feels he can get a better price (even with the commission removed) by using a brandable marketplace than by selling the domains himself or he feels the time saved selling these domains is worth the commission fee.

The Speculative Handreg Domainer

The guy can't afford to spend $xxx on each domain building a brandable portolio. He is thinking ahead. If he buys a domain now that he thinks will be valuable in 5+ years he has effectively paid $54 (6 X $9) for his quality domain. He lists his domains on the off chance that a couple might sell now enabling him to build a quality portfolio over the next 5 years, waiting for cash in day to arrive.

The Handreg Domainer
This guy doesn't really know what he is doing. He hand regs names solely for the purpose of listing on brandable marketplaces and expects to sell the same amount of domains as "The Educated Domainer". He gets frustrated after a few months, throws a fit and leaves the marketplace. He ends up dropping or selling his domains at low $xx.

The Newbie Fast Learner Domainer
This guy also doesn't know what he is doing to begin with. He also hand regs names solely for the purpose of listing on brandable marketplaces and expects to sell the same amount of domains as "The Educated Domainer". He then realises why he is selling less domains than "The Educated Domainer" and adapts his strategy. He will probably sell his low quality domains for $xx and retain his quality names becoming "The Speculative Handreg Domainer" or he will build his own marketplace and remove his names from the brandable marketplace.

Brandroot is a small company, Radar has figured out the mentality of domainers. He doesn't want "The Handreg Domainer" or "The Newbie Fast Learner Domainer". No one does! These guys take up so much time and truly believe the marketplace can't manage without them, when in fact, the marketplace would be much better off without them. Brandroot has been brave enough to dump them, by charging a fee, they won't join.
 
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What @hookbox and @JimJammy mention is not that far fetched.

Because we deal in domains, it is instinctive for us to perform research on a domain prior to purchase (such as a simple check of what the domain is currently forwarded to).

However... not all end users do so and will buy with the 1st "BUY IT NOW" button they find via a Google Search for the term (brand name).

A crazy situation recently - a few months ago I had registered and listed a domain on BrandBucket for $1,595 and then about a month afterwards I found it (via a Google Search for the brandable name) newly listed on another site for $3,295.

Wildcatters are performing "arbitrage" by creating mini-sites listing BB names for double / triple the BB price listed price. Once they receive payment from the buyer.... the wildcatters simply buy (and receive transfer of) the name from BB.

Arbitrage = a somewhat creative way to become a self-imposed affiliate (a lucrative Reseller markup). :rolleyes:

Go figure!

-Jim
 
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I definitely would not register anything on that list just because it was "sold" prior.

I ran through the list and quickly researched a couple.

None really caught my eye as a good purchase.

A couple seemed to have had maybe one end user that would have purchased them for that price.

A few I could track back to a flippa account that had since been banned.

Many of the others were sold 4-5+ years ago. Keywords and trends have changed a lot since then.

One or two I see small potential - but not enough to pursue...

Many made no sense so I did not look any further into them.

Domain sales are definitely an interesting thing... A lot of domains that have been sold will most certainly never sell again. Other sales I definitely question - but there is no real good way to track down which sales are true and which may be falsified - without spending more time than I think anyone is willing to devote to the subject.

Kudos to you for posting this though. Most would have kept this to themselves. Though I imagine you might have picked off a few gems before posting - but I don't blame you. ;)
 
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I do not believe but am not totally sure if Namebio was tracking DropCatch back then, @Michael can answer.
We started tracking DropCatch on February 22nd, 2015. The only time we should miss any of their results is if their site is down, otherwise we shouldn't miss a single sale since you can watch every auction with no backorders required. We don't load in sales under $100 though, maybe that's what he is thinking of?

For GoDaddy we only track expired auctions, and again shouldn't miss a single one unless their site is down or not functioning properly. We don't track public auctions because the way we watch doesn't show if the reserve is met or not, and lots of them have reserves.
 
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Because I'm short of time Is anyone able to look at Krells and Margot domains that have been removed from BB for the past 2 months and manually check which sold from the list that I will provide?

I will help. Is this post a hint that you will soon be providing an update of whats sold lately? Not just from staff, but from everyone? A few people have asked me if I've been keeping up with bb sales, to which I have not. The brandable industry needs @Dnbolt back. You've been missed!
 
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Some good insights. To my eye Fitalytics is a combination of the words FIT and ANALYTICS.
 
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