Boycott Icann's New Domain Name Extension Release, Thread

[unholygod]

The end of domaining ?

Biggest Expansion to Internet in Forty Years Approved for Implementation

26 June 2008

Paris, France: The Board of ICANN today approved a recommendation that could see a whole range of new names introduced to the Internet's addressing system.

"The Board today accepted a recommendation from its global stakeholders that it is possible to implement many new names to the Internet, paving the way for an expansion of domain name choice and opportunity" said Dr Paul Twomey, President and CEO of ICANN.

A final version of the implementation plan must be approved by the ICANN Board before the new process is launched. It is intended that the final version will be published in early 2009.

"The potential here is huge. It represents a whole new way for people to express themselves on the Net," said Dr Twomey. "It's a massive increase in the 'real estate' of the Internet."

Presently, users have a limited range of 21 top level domains to choose from — names that we are all familiar with like .com, .org, .info.

This proposal allows applicants for new names to self-select their domain name so that choices are most appropriate for their customers or potentially the most marketable. It is expected that applicants will apply for targeted community strings such as (the existing) .travel for the travel industry and .cat for the Catalan community (as well as generic strings like .brandname or .yournamehere). There are already interested consortiums wanting to establish city-based top level domain, like .nyc (for New York City), .berlin and .paris.

"One of the most exciting prospect before us is that the expanding system is also being planned to support extensions in the languages of the world," said Peter Dengate Thrush, ICANN's Chairman. "This is going to be very important for the future of the Internet in Asia, the Middle East, Eastern Europe and Russia." The present system only supports 37 Roman characters.

Upon approval of the implementation plan, it is planned that applications for new names will be available in the second quarter of 2009.

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[Ray]

I am not interested in these new extenstions... I will join the boycot!!

 

[paleoglobe]

I don't think it matters if you are pro or contra these new extentions. Most of us won't even get close to owning one. If this will be a success, it will be a game that is played on a higher level. Major Companies might consider asking domain consultants to help them choose the appropriate tlds, but thats it.

PS. I agree with the above. Your ranking will become more important, type in traffic will become less important. The ease of search engines has grown and the internet is becoming more and more complex. Why still pay 20.000$ on a .com if you can get another domain and SEO it to a higher rank...

Extentions will become less important in my opinion.
Rankings will become more important.

And if this means that a .asia gets higher than the .com variant, than so be it. And who will make the most money from visitors? You do the math.

Christophe

 

[dotnom]

Well i see some people claiming domainers are few and want to retain the com glory because they already have .com domains and that the internet has changed ......

Most of you forget one basic thing to human psychology
See and replicate

The only reason and the only hop for the new TLDs to survive (even if all domainers boycott the TLDs) is to see really big corps support them.

For me the TLD issue works like this :

1. Big corporations with lot of influence to buyers build a site under a TLD
2. The product awareness they have to their market supports the TLD
3. Internet users see this support/trend and they replicate it as good/valid/strong
4. One company see the other company and replicate. Their customers follow (same happens also with no profit but reputable persons/organizations/......)

We saw commercial sites with .info, warez sites with .org, .net for personal pages....
So it's not about internet categorization but what big guys will do with these TLDs

For example let's assume that microsoft or google go and support a generic TLD say .games do you think .games will not be popular the same moment ?

I think even with the boycott of the new TLDs i give them value
I just don't care for them

Maybe some TLDs will be interesting (for me the .games examples i mention above will be interesting indeed) maybe some not but the case here is that for the next years the owners of the .whatever TLD will give their traffic to the similar .com websites

 

[npcomplete]

Boycotting new markets is usually as effective as boycotting entropy. Good luck with that. Both Entropy and Free Market dynamics are based on large numbers. "Boycotts" are already taking place within the market via the individual decisions of those that comprise the market. If a tld fails that is a natural market result.

Personally I love to see competition in the market, regardless of whether it hurts my own market position... that just means you need to adjust your position. I am hoping for some new excellent tld's to change the market. New markets create new opportunities for investment.

 

[resto]

Okay lets agree but yet you know those oldies do sell for a lot of dollars though.

I agree they are worth $ and probably always will be worth some $.

Personally I love to see competition in the market, regardless of whether it hurts my own market position... that just means you need to adjust your position. I am hoping for some new excellent tld's to change the market. New markets create new opportunities for investment.

I like to see markets change the thing that might suck for average investors is that these new domains will probably be controlled and the profits will probably be all made by the big guys with 150,000 to invest in the name and the big marketing campaigns they already have in place with their company names.

People are so hypnotized by consumer logos and icons I'm sure they will buy into the commercialized domain names.

In the future if there is all of these extensions with glamorized marketing attached to them .com will probably look boring.

But it will be interesting to see what new changes take place.

Will there be anywhere for the small guy?

 

[recluse99]

Here's a reason for ICANN, profit
pure and simple
Any business will want more profit, even the non-profit sector(they have bills to pay too)
It was inevitable that dotMCDONALDS and dotMICROSOFT would come into existience.
http://www.software.microsoft
http://onlineorder.mcdonalds
http://boycott.icann ....

 

[ecigs.net]

Software.msn?

Here's a reason for ICANN, profit
pure and simple
Any business will want more profit, even the non-profit sector(they have bills to pay too)
It was inevitable that dotMCDONALDS and dotMICROSOFT would come into existience.
http://www.software.microsoft
http://onlineorder.mcdonalds
http://boycott.icann ....

Do you sell domains for non-profit purposes or do you want to sell them for the most amount of money you can? I'm just curious. You seem to be posting against profit.

dotMcDonalds What a concept. Buy a Happy Meal and get a free LLL.McD. (Offer available to the first customers 17,576 only.)

 

[recluse99]

Do you sell domains for non-profit purposes or do you want to sell them for the most amount of money you can? I'm just curious. You seem to be posting against profit.

ICANN is a nonprofit,
They create work for themselves to get a bigger salary...
The company may be nonprofit but who really gets paid...the big bosses
Most nonprofit do good, then people figure out that a large portion of the monies they collect go to the ones who run the show. I'm not against the profit, I'm against the 'extra' work that sucks the till dry by paying the higher ups a fat-ass salary, their friends who work as 'consultants', and other 'for-profit' businesses they work with...
imo,

 

[ecigs.net]

Icann

One of ICANN's self-proclaimed jobs is to promote expansion.

"ICANN doesn’t control content on the Internet. It cannot stop spam and it doesn’t deal with access to the Internet. But through its coordination role of the Internet’s naming system, it does have an important impact on the expansion and evolution of the Internet."

Creating new TLDs fits within the scope of their intended purpose.

They also say, ICANN "promotes competition". Competition creates growth. Increasing competition in our industry will make it stronger, not weaker.

 

[siga]

Most interesting thread cheers OP.

Firstly I agree with Rob J. IMO Most people especially the younger generation pick up the link from
<a> advertising campaign in the media using a example already mentioned else where (levi.jeans) or as I found from the work canteen a present one for the catering campany (abetterday.tv)
<b> a search engine
<c> from someother link ie other website/ friend/ referall/ signature...

Some people type in the address bar but I personally have only really started doing this on mass since entering domaining. Previously I was limited using the address bar for (searching for google or hotmail) as a quicker means of getting somewhere I knew who to get to already. Afterworking in internet cafes when I was a student I noticed most people seem to use search engines this is why there are search engines on the home page of most internet cafes you will go to. The people who use address bars are at the poles of both ends of the spectrum "the confused" and "the very well informed"

My point is: if you are being linked to something from a reputable company ie search engine, or other internet internal source the general user in the future will go to it or type it in. this goes with external links such as tv ads/ flyers/ phone books / even text messages. (which are now easier and you can just click on the link in you text message to take you to the web page.)

To further back up the new TLDs my friends family and other s that I have spoken to regarding this subject (people who are in the middle of the spectrum I discussed in the paragraph above) all think this is a great big change and it will be greatly used ie the proposed .xxx or .porn .jeans etc will be used the whole time. Some even suggest this is a good time for speculation knowing I've been dabbling with DNs. Therefore there will be quite a few newbs jumping on the band wagon and trying there luck.

Having said that

I will be sticking to current popular tlds and a few cctlds for the most part. Although I will not boycott the New Tlds I just feel they will be more of a marketing game and highly volitile from my own domaining perspective.

Esa mentioned the new winners will be the sponsors of these new tlds this is very true. I imagine if you have the contacts in the industry and a good rep this will open great oppertunitys to make money. Go to levis, diesel, wrangler and evisu and get them interested in <.jeans> on a long term contract and the other jean companys will fall into suite behind them.

Out of interest does anyone think this will increase the popularity of domain hacks to end users?

 

[squid]

I honestly can never see this happening, it just seems so, idiotic. ICANN of all people should understand the domaining business and what this could do to it

 

[Web Master]

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[owntype]

I think ICANN has overlooked the potential problems that .??? may cause.

 

[Phronesis]

I think to assume that the net will stay the way it is now ad infinitum is naive. I posited this question about 2 years ago about the future of the web. Maybe it'll happen - maybe not, just don't keep all your eggs in one basket. jmho

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

I think to assume that the net will stay the way it is now ad infinitum is naive. I posited this question about 2 years ago about the future of the web. Maybe it'll happen - maybe not, just don't keep all your eggs in one basket. jmho

Completely agree. I'm not claiming to know for sure what will happen, but it most certainly cannot stay the way it is forever.

 

[cyberhawks]

the bottom line here is that this news is simple proof that the domain world is changing whether any individual likes it or not..and those who best adapt to this change will most reap the rewards.and certainly it does seem to be a different dynamic then other domain extensions being unveiled in its scope and its cost...in many ways domaining is about branding your url and certainly this news will offer companies/orgs/etc more potential in branding so certainly in some ways it will likely succeed...

 

[Name Trader]

One thing is certain. The internet is in a constant state of change. Do I think the explosion of tld's will affect .com's? Possibly. Will it be positive or negative effect? Don't know. If I were to look into my crystal ball for a prediction, I don't see any time in the forseeable future when .com will be surpassed as the premier tld.

 

[syedahmed]

Well! IMHO, Web is going to become a BIG mess. ICANN has already introduced so many extensions and registrars are making big bucks and fellow domainers are loosing money and business big time. There should've been just coms, nets and orgs. Nothing else makes sense to me. Though, I own a few other extensions besides coms, nets and orgs but I don't think I'll be able to sell those yet.
Lets hope for the best.

 

[theparamount]

No.

 

[theparamount]

ICANN is a business.. I support whatever they do that increases internet traffic and awareness.

 

[jacal1]

No.

:bingo:

 

[weblord]

i think for a domainer .com is always king if not then who else will support us anyways?

 

[Ronald Regging]

If I really believed this thing was going to take off the way they're hyping it, I'd be buying up blocks of IP addresses. The Internet is going to get really crowded and they might become valuable (at least til they implement IPv6, which could take awhile to get everyone switched over to).

 

[MaguirePhD]

My uneducated take on matters...

Two things rather quickly.

In 10 years we will be doing vertical travel, so forget all the taxi domains unless you have VerticalTaxi.com.

1. Propulsion car guided by GPS angles up at 45 degrees against the rotation of the earth and re-enters at 45 degrees after 65 minutes. End result New York to LA and you come down in a 5 foot square numbered section of a parking lot at LAX.

2. The Internet wil expand but the use will become more parochial. As China and the sub-continent dominate the Internet, botique private Internets will sprout up specific to certain countries engendering a jingoistic approach.
Businesses may want to have access around the world, but the majority of people can see no reason to be connected world wide.

Conduct an empiical experiment...and not with people from this forum, as they are all Internet saavy and wired or connected, if you will. Do this with regular people on the street.

Ask them them 3 questions:

1. Is it important that YOUR Intenet is linked to other coutries all over the world?
2. Why is it imporant to be linked to these countries? Now, here is where the answers will slow down. They said " yes " because they heard this is good but they really don't now why.
3. Lastly, what coutries are they in contact with on a regular basis?

Probably a silly take on the matter to most of you? Well, I am a businessman whose experience predates the Internet by a substantial period. Do I use it? Absolutley.

Do I need access to foreign nations? No, I do not.
Do I use it for access here in the U.S. Absolutely,

But f it went away, I would be back to doing business only in NJ. like I did before the Internet.

They point that I am making is that unless you are are an International business, very few of us have a real need to be linked to other coutries.

The Internet has given people a lot of electronic pen pals but little more than that.

Ask yourself, " if the Internet went away tomorrow, how woud my business life, NOT social lfe be effected? "
They answer to 98% of us would be: " Very, marginally. "

And in a week we would be back at our fax machines, going to the post office or calling FedEx for a pick up.

Doc

 

[VisionEdger]

get real! .com is THE internet standard period. It will ALWAYS be and ALWAYS WILL BE the #1.

All this tld bs is atypical media hype just like y2k, global warming Al Gore bs, ad infinitum!