BLACKLISTED!!!! AAAAW, man!

[EbookLover]

NameCheap...BLACKLISTED!!!!???

I regged a domain about a week ago. I checked the whois info at whois.sc before I regged it and whois.sc indicated that it was never regged before.

Now, today, I decided to check the whois on it and I find that whois.sc says that it was blacklisted. It appears this is the status that a domain gets when a spammer used it for spamming and is caught and reported.

So I'm baffled at this point. Whois.sc has no whois history of the domain.

Does this blacklisted status hurt the value of a domain?

Does blacklisted status hurt the domain's ability to be indexed in certain search engines?

I'm pretty pissed about this. Whois.sc, although probably the best whois service out there, lets me down frequently which is why I don't even bother to pay them for membership. :td:

I'd probably not have regged it had whois.sc told me it was regged before and has a "blacklisted" status before I regged it. From the looks of it it seems that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to get a domain UNblacklsited. Anyone know?

I'd post the domain but it's an adult domain (although it has no "bad words" in it).

 

[seeker]

if your domain is blacklisted, a LOT of users will not be receiving your emails.
regardless of where it is hosted, if your IP is blacklisted, your communication from that IP/domain will be seriously restricted.
also, it definately decreases perceived value.

 

[DomainSage]

The main problem is that there are so many black lists run by different groups, and they mostly block by IP address and not the domain name. Hence you can get something like Enom that over the course of a year probably has thousands of domains on any one IP ... It only takes one of those to be used for spam and suddenly all the domains are tarred with the same brush.

Getting an IP unblocked is a real pain as the groups running the black lists are not particularly bothered in trying to sort out the problem.

I suppose the good news is once you move it away from the current server IP it will not be blocked.

All the best.

Richard

 

[harkster]

While I really feel for those having problems One gets what they pay for.

That is why I pay what some would call a high price (35 bucks/MO) for my 2000 MB space 20 gig BW / 50 domain reseller account. They are strict and closely monitor activity for spam/abuse and don't overload their servers. My server currently has 35 accounts and it is not uncommpn to see requests for accounts to be moved in order to balance server loads. I have known of people to be 'firmly' asked to leave.

<edit>BTW I currently have 46 names hosted there (mine and my few clients). When I upgrade I get 50% more for 10 extra bucks/mo.

Except for the fact I don't want the problems 75 domains at 5-10 bucks a pop is tempting. I charge my clients 10-15 per but I pick who I do work for and they also pay hourly for updates -- couple hours/MO freebie. 1 client provides about 20 - 30 hours/MO doing 'grunt work' updates + 1K For a recent major site redesign.</edit>

 

[smub]

wow interesting case it is ...

all namecheap domains ... i need to check my domains now ...

Checking ...

found 3 defected ... just changed the ns to my host

 

[Smith]

hmm Enom's (and as result resellers) ip's must have been blocked by some idiot at spamhaus or some other spam "blocking" program.

I do agree with Hark though, for emails you should be using your own hosting, you can get it for less then $5 a month if you look around.

 

[mole]

I do agree with Hark though, for emails you should be using your own hosting, you can get it for less then $5 a month if you look around.

ditto, especially your admin email

 

[EbookLover]

While I really feel for those having problems One gets what they pay for.

That is why I pay what some would call a high price (35 bucks/MO) for my 2000 MB space 20 gig BW / 50 domain reseller account. They are strict and closely monitor activity for spam/abuse and don't overload their servers. My server currently has 35 accounts and it is not uncommon to see requests for accounts to be moved in order to balance server loads. I have known of people to be 'firmly' asked to leave.

<edit>BTW I currently have 46 names hosted there (mine and my few clients). When I upgrade I get 50% more for 10 extra bucks/mo.

Except for the fact I don't want the problems 75 domains at 5-10 bucks a pop is tempting. I charge my clients 10-15 per but I pick who I do work for and they also pay hourly for updates -- couple hours/MO freebie. 1 client provides about 20 - 30 hours/MO doing 'grunt work' updates + 1K For a recent major site redesign.</edit>

But Hark, no one is talkgin about hosts. We are talking about the registrar's IP, not hosting IPs. If it were merely a hosting IP, I'd simply get a new host.

As it is, it is Enom's parking server that is blacklisted, not my hosting account or server. I'm not paying $25 for a domain name just to make sure it is not on a blacklisted server. Now hosting, I will gladly pay $35/mo (and I do) if it is a reseller/true-multi-domain account. It's worth it. But this really has nothing to do with that. I do not use emails for all my domains. I just think that it's not too much to ask for a large reseller like Enom to NOT use a blacklisted server or at least get it UNblacklisted. I am assuming they are not at fault and the spam cops are mistaken. they really should have this fixed.

 

[weblord]

whois has whois history try this:
http://www.whois.sc/whois-history/?domain=yourdomain.com
** you need to be atleast a registered free member to use that option above

blacklisting is done via ip and not via domain, so if you regged any domain blacklisted you will host of course using another ip, whois.sc whois information are kinda late usually a week or month late the best test for a domain if it's still blacklisted in realtime is to use
http://www.dnsstuff.com/

 

[EbookLover]

Getting an IP unblocked is a real pain as the groups running the black lists are not particularly bothered in trying to sort out the problem.

Yeds, I hear that it is a pain. But I also think that a lawsuit would get them to be a little more considerate and alert. I have no problems with fighting spam but if you ain't gonna do it right, then you should not be allowed to do it at all.

Again, I'm not worried about emails, I am merely worried about the fact that it could quite possibly devalue a domain even though it is no fault of the person who regged the domain, the enom reseller, or even enom (I assume).

Oh well, I guess there is nothing we can do about it. it is up to enom and the spam cops to fight it out. So as it stands, if you are going to sell a domain tha tyou bought through an enom reseller, you are better off not keeping it parked with enom or the resller and park it with a pkng svc or elsewhere.

 

[mole]

I think eNom should introduce a paid premium verified DNS service for serious domainers who don't want to get mixed up with all that abuse of its current free-for-all DNS.

btw, is it just me or why do I see all the 'remove mole' ads in the purple Google text ad box on top? :yell:

 

[EbookLover]

I am surprised that the entire Enom server IPs have been blacklisted.

I'm not. I know a spam cop. A self-appointed, independent one. He goes around the web looking for spammers and reports them and gets them shut down. He doesn;t even get paid much of the time to do it, either.

He is good friends with MGMT at GoDaddy. Hmm. Go figure.

But my point is, this guy is VERY QUICK to call anyone a spammer and start the ball rolling. He knows a lot of people in the anti-spam community. He's a pretty nice guy but he's an overzealous spam cop. He hangs out on a few forums, that's how I know of him. Don't worry. As far as I know he does not hang here. Not that anyone here is a spammer but the fact is that he is so overzealous that I don't even bother to post any of my domains at the forum I know where he hangs out.

 

[mole]

Not that anyone here is a spammer but the fact is that he is so overzealous that I don't even bother to post any of my domains at the forum I know where he hangs out.

Which forums and what is this overzealous idiot's nick?

 

[EbookLover]

Well, if you must know, friendsinbusiness.com is the one he seems to hang out the most. Some marketing forums too, but I think he lurks more than anything. He psots quite often to FIB. Not a great forum, but I do like to help a lot of people that go there. It's a biz opp scam forum. I hate to see people get scammed. I have been scammed many times with "biz opps" myself in the past.

I won't tell ya his name. I don't feel right doing that seeing how I DO like the guy as a person - but not as a spam cop. You'll have to figure it out yourself. But one clue I will give you is "rock concert"

 

[harkster]

But Hark, no one is talkgin about hosts. We are talking about the registrar's IP, not hosting IPs. If it were merely a hosting IP, I'd simply get a new host.

As it is, it is Enom's parking server that is blacklisted, not my hosting account or server. I'm not paying $25 for a domain name just to make sure it is not on a blacklisted server. Now hosting, I will gladly pay $35/mo (and I do) if it is a reseller/true-multi-domain account. It's worth it. But this really has nothing to do with that. I do not use emails for all my domains. I just think that it's not too much to ask for a large reseller like Enom to NOT use a blacklisted server or at least get it UNblacklisted. I am assuming they are not at fault and the spam cops are mistaken. they really should have this fixed.

Sorry for my misunderstanding. Guess I am different in that I either set all domains to my personal nameserver or park. IMHO Registars are for registering not hosting, email etc. True registars should keep an eye on their/reseller servers.

 

[EbookLover]

Yes, I agree. The golden rule is...

Never buy domains from a host and never buy hosting from a domain reg.

In fact, I think I'll pu that in my sig.