.de Blackjack-vegas.de sold for $53,218. Why?

[jamaltq]

Hello guys
I have noticed that the domain name blackjack-vegas.de Sold for $53,218 at Sedo before one week.
Do you think it is worth it? Any comments?
Thanks

 

[JoeE]

Those darn Germans seem to love deviating from our perceived "norm" with their love for dashes/hyphens. As a matter of fact, blackjackvegas.de is also available for sale for 50K Euros, (which is almost same price) and here we see that they went for the one with the hyphen. which tells us that hyphens rule in Germany. Does anyone know of any other country where hyphens are preferred over the non-hyphenated ones?

 

[E-Promote]

What a perfectly awful domain. Never invest in anything you do not understand.

 

[Sheogorath]

Great sale
It gives hope for domainers who own hyphenated domains.
I own a good domain with hyphen though no offers yet.

Those darn Germans seem to love deviating from our perceived "norm" with their love for dashes/hyphens. As a matter of fact, blackjackvegas.de is also available for sale for 50K Euros, (which is almost same price) and here we see that they went for the one with the hyphen. which tells us that hyphens rule in Germany. Does anyone know of any other country where hyphens are preferred over the non-hyphenated ones?

It seems that hyphenated domains are also popular in France.
I checked the highest hyphenated domain sales whois, I noticed that some of the owners live in France.
It doesn't mean much though.

 

[Ignorance]

By the Nine!! Who can understand such things?

 

[jamaltq]

As Namebio
It is the fourth biggest sale ever for .de with hyphen
online-casino.de Sold for $144,900
online-casinos.de Sold for $84,500
free-sms.de Sold for $162,150

 

[AIS01]

Really .de with hypen or without hypen many domains sold for high price..
I think Germans likes just .de domain. no matter with hypen or without happen..

anyways.. Great sale.. congrats Buyers and Sellers...

 

[jamaltq]

I wonder, how Germans buying domains in English language with hyphens for high amounts.

 

[AIS01]

I wonder, how Germans buying domains in English language with hyphens for high amounts.

same thought...

 

[Premiums]

no way

 

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[Ategy]

I'm thinking there was likely a whole ton of backlinks and traffic. Maybe it's a former online casino (or casino lead generator site) and the buyer wants the traffic to grow their own gambling site? That's a scenario I could believe if the traffic was high enough (hopefully for the buyer the traffic wasn't faked).

Otherwise I'd say there was likely something shady going on with this sale.


To answer @jamaltq's original question .. no .. in my opinion the domain itself is worthless for the name itself .. but there is value for traffic .. specifically gambling traffic!

 

[jamaltq]

It is active website now

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

I'm thinking there was likely a whole ton of backlinks and traffic. Maybe it's a former online casino (or casino lead generator site) and the buyer wants the traffic to grow their own gambling site? That's a scenario I could believe if the traffic was high enough (hopefully for the buyer the traffic wasn't faked).

Otherwise I'd say there was likely something shady going on with this sale.


To answer @jamaltq's original question .. no .. in my opinion the domain itself is worthless for the name itself .. but there is value for traffic .. specifically gambling traffic!

What is this fake traffic you speak off and how to replicate said fake traffic?

 

[promo]

Its been an active website since 2013. This was not a domain sale but a website sale. Could easily be worth much more.

Before I started domaining I ran a hobby website in the nodeposit casino niche. I got ONE single whale player. He made me 26000 USD over the course of 18 months. This niche has some serious money involved.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Its been an active website since 2013. This was not a domain sale but a website sale. Could easily be worth much more.

Before I started domaining I ran a hobby website in the nodeposit casino niche. I got ONE single whale player. He made me 26000 USD over the course of 18 months. This niche has some serious money involved.

Hmm. Interesting . Was it your own site? Or were you just an affiliate middleman?

Speaking of which I own
Nodeposit.fun
Deposit.fun
Nodepositbonus.fun

So I'm interested in this niche.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

I'm guessing this was end-user reaching out to domain owner or outbound sales.

I wonder if hyphenated domains sell for as much if you simply put them up for auction on sedo? Sedo seems to be HQ for .De domain sales? ?

 

[jamaltq]

Its been an active website since 2013. This was not a domain sale but a website sale. Could easily be worth much more.

I don't think Namebio recording websites sales?

 

[promo]

I don't think Namebio recording websites sales?

Well its the same content roughly as in 2016. Maybe new owner scraped it from archive or namebio made a mistake. Regardless there is no question that this name was sold on the basis of its history and traffic.

 

[promo]

Hmm. Interesting . Was it your own site? Or were you just an affiliate middleman?

Speaking of which I own
Nodeposit.fun
Deposit.fun
Nodepositbonus.fun

So I'm interested in this niche.

It was an affiliate site and the 26k was 5% of his gross rake for the period at a single poker room.

I like ccTLDs better for this niche. Gives you a chance to conquer some traffic in one of the most competetive industries online.

 

[briguy]

I'm thinking there was likely a whole ton of backlinks and traffic. Maybe it's a former online casino (or casino lead generator site) and the buyer wants the traffic to grow their own gambling site? That's a scenario I could believe if the traffic was high enough (hopefully for the buyer the traffic wasn't faked).

Otherwise I'd say there was likely something shady going on with this sale.


To answer @jamaltq's original question .. no .. in my opinion the domain itself is worthless for the name itself .. but there is value for traffic .. specifically gambling traffic!

What is this fake traffic you speak off and how to replicate said fake traffic?

Pretty sure @Ategy.com was referring to actual human visitors, who probably used the site to gamble on!

To answer your question about , "fake traffic'..
Plenty of sites offer "fake traffic". ..Usually used to bring up traffic visits (before selling) and or improve ranking (mainly Alexa).

Wish that hyphenated domain sale was mine!

 

[jamaltq]

I think Germans don't care about hyphens in the domain names.
By checking Namebio, 18 .de domain names sold for above 3k in 2016-2017 comparing with 4 .net domains and just 2 .org

 

[promo]

German end user actually use hyphens in their names just as much as they dont. The last internet users that do that to my knowledge.

 

[domaincorp]

Many German end users prefer hyphenated names. The owner of bikecomponents in com owns this keyword (hyphen and non-hyphen) in almost every tld but all their names point to their hyphenated .de website.

I sold them the non-hyphenated org.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Pretty sure @Ategy.com was referring to actual human visitors, who probably used the site to gamble on!

To answer your question about , "fake traffic'..
Plenty of sites offer "fake traffic". ..Usually used to bring up traffic visits (before selling) and or improve ranking (mainly Alexa).

Wish that hyphenated domain sale was mine!

But isn't that pretty easy to spot? I guess one could use a proxy switcher and harvest IP's using a leecher. But I'm sure this type of trick is obsolete now