.de Blackjack-vegas.de sold for $53,218. Why?

[jamaltq]

Hello guys
I have noticed that the domain name blackjack-vegas.de Sold for $53,218 at Sedo before one week.
Do you think it is worth it? Any comments?
Thanks

 

[briguy]

I'm thinking there was likely a whole ton of backlinks and traffic. Maybe it's a former online casino (or casino lead generator site) and the buyer wants the traffic to grow their own gambling site? That's a scenario I could believe if the traffic was high enough (hopefully for the buyer the traffic wasn't faked).

Otherwise I'd say there was likely something shady going on with this sale.


To answer @jamaltq's original question .. no .. in my opinion the domain itself is worthless for the name itself .. but there is value for traffic .. specifically gambling traffic!

What is this fake traffic you speak off and how to replicate said fake traffic?

Pretty sure @Ategy.com was referring to actual human visitors, who probably used the site to gamble on!

To answer your question about , "fake traffic'..
Plenty of sites offer "fake traffic". ..Usually used to bring up traffic visits (before selling) and or improve ranking (mainly Alexa).

Wish that hyphenated domain sale was mine!

 

[jamaltq]

I think Germans don't care about hyphens in the domain names.
By checking Namebio, 18 .de domain names sold for above 3k in 2016-2017 comparing with 4 .net domains and just 2 .org

 

[promo]

German end user actually use hyphens in their names just as much as they dont. The last internet users that do that to my knowledge.

 

[domaincorp]

Many German end users prefer hyphenated names. The owner of bikecomponents in com owns this keyword (hyphen and non-hyphen) in almost every tld but all their names point to their hyphenated .de website.

I sold them the non-hyphenated org.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Pretty sure @Ategy.com was referring to actual human visitors, who probably used the site to gamble on!

To answer your question about , "fake traffic'..
Plenty of sites offer "fake traffic". ..Usually used to bring up traffic visits (before selling) and or improve ranking (mainly Alexa).

Wish that hyphenated domain sale was mine!

But isn't that pretty easy to spot? I guess one could use a proxy switcher and harvest IP's using a leecher. But I'm sure this type of trick is obsolete now

 

[ametyst]

Those darn Germans seem to love deviating from our perceived "norm" with their love for dashes/hyphens. As a matter of fact, blackjackvegas.de is also available for sale for 50K Euros, (which is almost same price) and here we see that they went for the one with the hyphen. which tells us that hyphens rule in Germany. Does anyone know of any other country where hyphens are preferred over the non-hyphenated ones?

I have to say that they bought blackjack-vegas.de even without registration blackjackvegas.de After information about sale I registered:

blackjackvegas.de
vegasblackjack.de
vegas-blackjack.de

For me the sale was because of gambling traffic but... I can not imagine how they could not register without dash...

 

[JoeE]

I have to say that they bought blackjack-vegas.de even without registration blackjackvegas.de After information about sale I registered:

blackjackvegas.de
vegasblackjack.de
vegas-blackjack.de

For me the sale was because of gambling traffic but... I can not imagine how they could not register without dash...

So you registered the domain without hyphen after the news about the sale?
This makes it even weirder that they bought tjhe hyphenated one, while the non-hyphened was still available for registration. Anyway, good gamble on your part, I hope it pays off.
Good luck

 

[ametyst]

So you registered the domain without hyphen after the news about the sale?
This makes it even weirder that they bought tjhe hyphenated one, while the non-hyphened was still available for registration. Anyway, good gamble on your part, I hope it pays off.
Good luck

Yes, I did it after As I think about the sale this can be a human mistake. They bought 1 domain for traffic and forgot about other...better.

 

[promo]

This just reinforces the notion that the domain name carried none to little value to the buyer. It was all about the traffic and possibly a user database.

PS
I agree he was a fool not to reg the non hyphenated version. But we all see the world from our own place.

 

[equity78]

Well its the same content roughly as in 2016. Maybe new owner scraped it from archive or namebio made a mistake. Regardless there is no question that this name was sold on the basis of its history and traffic.

I agree and I put that in the Sedo weekly report I write on TheDomains.com. this was definitely a website sale but Sedo put it in their RSS sales feed, should be * at a minimum.

 

[1Darko]

Those darn Germans seem to love deviating from our perceived "norm" with their love for dashes/hyphens. As a matter of fact, blackjackvegas.de is also available for sale for 50K Euros, (which is almost same price) and here we see that they went for the one with the hyphen. which tells us that hyphens rule in Germany. Does anyone know of any other country where hyphens are preferred over the non-hyphenated ones?

Almost in all european countries the hyphenated domains rules over non hyphenated.

 

[promo]

Almost in all european countries the hyphenated domains rules over non hyphenated.

No no thats wrong. We dont like them, only Germans do.

 

[1Darko]

Europe is a lot more than dk and de

 

[1Darko]

No no thats wrong. We dont like them, only Germans do.

alle-kabler.dk 8,440 USD 2017-01-11 Sedo
allekabler.dk 8,440 USD 2017-01-11 Sedo

 

[promo]

Europe is a lot more than dk and de

Yes that is correct. However you are incorrect when stating the rest of Europe likes hyphens. ONLY Germany still uses them on a large scale.

The sale you are referring to, allekabler.dk, is ALSO a website sale. Where the domain name is of less importance for the buyer.

But I can see you are a 2 month domain name veteran. So maybe I should take your course and learn the ropes?

 

[1Darko]

Yes that is correct. However you are incorrect when stating the rest of Europe likes hyphens. ONLY Germany still uses them on a large scale.

The sale you are referring to, allekabler.dk, is ALSO a website sale. Where the domain name is of less importance for the buyer.

But I can see you are a 2 month domain name veteran. So maybe I should take your course and learn the ropes?

First of all I stated "almost all" and second you can look France, Italy and other major EU countries. A lot of hyphens. You can ignore it or check it for yourself. There is no big sales history for hyphenated domains because it's difficult for domain speculators to invest in them - to much risk! Therefor mostly handregistered from the users!
I'm only 2 month registrated on namepros and you are form 2006. Both we have to do our courses and learn because the progress never stops! That's why I like it!

 

[promo]

Yeah the difference between us two is that I have owned and sold hyphenated domains for more than 10 years. I currently hold 20% of the L--L.COM niche. My first 4 figure sale was e-topic.com.

I know what sells.

Further I live and travel extensively in Europe. I see what is used. You dont know what you are talking about and have no respect for knowledge and experience.

PS
How about listening to your byline. Use your brain instead of your virtual mouth. At least until you know what you are talking about.

 

[1Darko]

Well I'm from Europe too and I know what I'm talking about. The difference between you and me is not only the experience in domaining...

 

[promo]

You obviously do not know what you are talking about.

No probably not the only difference. You are most likely a student. Maybe doing your bachelors. I finished my graduate degree 8 years ago. You have no respect for knowledge. I know when to shut up and listen. You think you are smart, I know I am. I made 6 figures USD profit domaining last year, you probably dident even make 3. Etc. Etc.

I think the only thing we do share is the tendency to arrogance. Difference is I have the knowledge to back it up.

 

[1Darko]

I know you must have the last word _ peace!