Bing is up...

[pcp]

Just went to do a "Live/MSN" search and found that Bing is now live (no pun intended).
Only played with it for a minute or two, but found a couple of my sites in no1 spot. Cool.
Results display looks nice and clean, way better than Cuil for example.
Or has it been up for a while, and I'm late to the party...?

 

[RogueWriter]

Excel wasn't anything new when it came out, either. Just sayin..... they have lots of money, and time and they aren't too keen on losing. If nothing else this may weaken Yahoo a bit. If you can turn it into a two horse race, your income goes up.

 

[Captain Tycoon]

What I meant was there was no big difference from Live Search to Bing. I guess they decided to do it for publicity perhaps...

Excel wasn't anything new when it came out, either. Just sayin..... they have lots of money, and time and they aren't too keen on losing. If nothing else this may weaken Yahoo a bit. If you can turn it into a two horse race, your income goes up.

 

[Ross]

Looks really good actually

Can't stand that it says "Beta" in the header, though - it's almost a fashion thing (started by Google) to start a project, chuck "Beta" in the heading and leave it at that.

Anywhoo, it looks pretty good; will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Putting "Beta" on something is not a fashion statement and actually means something. It lets everyone know that when using the service that there might be some bugs and things they didnt catch. It also lets Microsoft not be liable for those bugs and "loss of information" type things, basically can not blame it because you knew it was in "beta".

This is the reasons gmail and a lot of other google apps are still in "beta".

As far as Bing.com goes, pretty lame. Nothing really compares to google as far as a search engine and a company. Google also proved that starting with something simple and letting it grow itself works. Looks like "Bing" is trying to play catch up which is their first mistake.

 

[Jaco]

Results are total crap. I am all over the engines in Google for my stuff and when it comes to BING, I am not even on the first page. I love the layout though. They seriously need to improve their engines and get the heck away from Meta Tags LIKE GOOGLE.
okay, I'm done.

Hmmmm.... Nice observation.

SEO strategies for Bing thread should be next. I mean, I doubt they'll ever be able to touch googles heels, but there will probably be a big, upcoming marketing campaign, which will result in a ton of people trying it (for a little while, anyway).

It's worth going after once it gets out of BETA and the Microsoft marketing dollars start working on our behalf :D

 

[deleted984054565403]

Seems like a pretty cuil search engine to me.

 

[banners]

Lipstick on a pig IMHO

They will gain some users due to hype and having 2 domains, but it is still a joke.

If they want to get more serious users they should work on making a better algorithm and results.

Their search results are horrible in my experience. Then again I have never been very impressed with yahoo or any other non google search engine.

One day I predict that there will be some search engines that can seriously compete with google. Probably not for some time though.

I don't get it though, these companies have lots of $$$$ but they spend it on everything else.

 

[richrf]

Lipstick on a pig IMHO

They will gain some users due to hype and having 2 domains, but it is still a joke.

If they want to get more serious users they should work on making a better algorithm and results.

Their search results are horrible in my experience. Then again I have never been very impressed with yahoo or any other non google search engine.

One day I predict that there will be some search engines that can seriously compete with google. Probably not for some time though.

I don't get it though, these companies have lots of $$$$ but they spend it on everything else.

Unfortunately, money cannot create magic. Google's results are excellent because of the enormous information that they have collected via Analytics and their Toolbar, as well as Adsense click-thru's and Adwords. MS's engineers do not have this information at their disposal, and I don't see how they are going to be able to access similar info, unless Google opens up their APIs to their data warehouses - something that they will do over their graves. :blink:

Recognizing that they cannot compete with Google on general search results, they have decided to go a different track. If they are successful in verticalizing the search engine market, they will make it more competitive. But, how many users are going to start using multiple search engines. They will only do it, if there is a big advantage using engines like Bing when searching for specific results such as travel and shopping bargains. I'm going to give it a try, and see if I get better results when shopping in the verticals that MS is targeting. It might work.

 

[banners]

^^

I do not think it would be too hard for MS to collect the data if they really wanted to. I just think that they are short sited or lazy.

For one Microsoft has their own browser and toolbar, so that is not an excuse not to have various data.

I am suggesting that there is someone at Google making all of the right decisions, and someone at Microsoft making the wrong decisions.

 

[AdamWestdomains]

Im impressed with it, definitely head and shoulders above the few search engine attempts we've seen, its based on a few other companies technologies, such as Powerset, so it should be at least better than live.com in the long run..

For Microsoft its an awesome tool to take market share away from Yahoo, and swallow it up into Bing

Bing SEO here we come...

 

[shockie]

bing results seem to be a step up from live/msn, but i wonder how microsoft is going to market this in trying to gain market share. lots of tv ads maybe?

 

[Alex]

My sites are well positioned in Bing, and this is the only thing I like in it. I like the results page too actually.

 

[onlinelife]

Its look like they just switch from live.com to bing.com huh

 

[richrf]

^^

I do not think it would be too hard for MS to collect the data if they really wanted to. I just think that they are short sited or lazy.

For one Microsoft has their own browser and toolbar, so that is not an excuse not to have various data.

I am suggesting that there is someone at Google making all of the right decisions, and someone at Microsoft making the wrong decisions.

The toolbar is just one piece. Analytics data is used, plus the data that advertisers provide them. I think it is a mistake to underestimate the immense advantage this provides to Google - by plan and design. I am a technologist by trade (over 35 years experience), and I would not know how to overcome this advantage if I was given the job of building a competitor to Google. However, if you know of a way, I would love to hear it, because it it the technology moat that Google has at this time.

Rich

 

[NP02139]

lol, check out what happens when you search 'Linux' on Bing compared to the same search on Google.

Is Bing biased? You decide... | frank-dejong.com

Pretty obvious bias there

 

[GF]

Seems like a pretty cuil search engine to me.

LOL no pun intended?

 

[athletec64]

I actually kinda like it, though it seems like search results could improve. I hope Microsoft is successful.

 

[seeker]

If anything, I'd think for domainers it seems that bing is on our side.
I tried the linux search on both and it seems that bing favors domains with linux in the url!
I then tried searches for many of my sites that have keywords for the domain, and I am almost always on the first page!
So far so good. Lets see how it goes.

 

[Joep]

works for me!
All of my sites appear on the first results page.

 

[me.julia]

i don't see any big changes in it , its just same like live , Microsoft just gave new name to live (bing) otherwise its same like Old live SE... And honestly its look Bit spammy to me , And Speed is Also very slow like live had before ... maybe in future we'll see some changes on it ...

 

[namewaiter]

imo, bing is awesome so far, love seeing a summary of the page before i actually click and it is so damn fast.