Best Lessons/Training for Arbitrage

[rickkumar]

Hi,

As people say that parked.com allows arbitrage, I am wondering how people do it? Is arbitrage profitable with parked.com system?

I will appreciate if someone can answer the following:

1. How should one get training/lessons in arbitrage? Any recommendations?

2. What is the best way to use arbitrage to make profit?

Thanks.

 

[DnPresident]

The two best lessons for arbitrage are:

1. Trial and error

2. Getting together with other domainers.

Hi,

As people say that parked.com allows arbitrage, I am wondering how people do it? Is arbitrage profitable with parked.com system?

I will appreciate if someone can answer the following:

1. How should one get training/lessons in arbitrage? Any recommendations?

2. What is the best way to use arbitrage to make profit?

Thanks.

 

[rickkumar]

The two best lessons for arbitrage are:

1. Trial and error

2. Getting together with other domainers.

Can you please elaborate on both the above methods.

Your help is very much appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[GILSAN]

Essentially, Arbitrage is when people make money by bidding on less expensive terms to drive people to a page with AdSense or some other Publisher Network ads. When people click on those ads, the money that the site owner makes for the click exceeds the money that he spent to drive the traffic to the site. With a good enough "conversion rate," this can be very lucrative. (this quote is not mine BTW)

Check out the following link: http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2006/12/arbitrage-defined.html

It has quite a lot of info that should give you an idea of what Arbitrage is all about.



GIL

 

[mrizos]

I'm just wondering how arbitrage works these days, like right this moment. I see a lot of info on arbitrage that is about 1.5 - 2 years old, but nothing that is that recent.

Any *current* arbitrage experts wanna show off and spill a few secrets?

 

[geb9696]

All I am going to say is that from my experiance picking the right keywords is the most important. You want to make sure you are getting very targetted traffic who is looking for exactly what your site is advertising. That way you keep your CTR really high.

 

[GILSAN]

I'm just wondering how arbitrage works these days, like right this moment. I see a lot of info on arbitrage that is about 1.5 - 2 years old, but nothing that is that recent.

Any *current* arbitrage experts wanna show off and spill a few secrets?

I have a feeling that it's a subject that many arbitrage experts would rather keep as a secret. Lets face it, if they tell everything they'l loose the chicken with the golden eggs!

GIL

 

[sugimail]

That's correct, I believe no one will share the secret openly or It will be another overun event like june 2007. If somebody forget, It's the Adsense Arbitrage issue..

 

[goodkarmaco]

No magic show here

there is no magic to arbitrage. To make a ton of money doing this is like any marketing business plan, that is having a goal and keeping it.

The thing is not alot of us are what it takes to make it using arbitrage.

A person needs to watch pennies and control everything or losses will occur. Are you the type of person who can make tons of money having your own blog? Not everyone is cut from the fabric of the work ethic it takes to be rich from blogging. Its hard work dedication and good ideas.

For a Google account all you need to do is have a small budget, even twenty bucks to get started, a website to direct traffic too or a compliant parking provider and start sending traffic to it.

The trick is to find keywords that pay more than the traffic you are sending to it. So if I owned a tourist site, I would not be paying for adwords from Google for Real Estate. Real Estate keywords may cost over $1.00 each. But I would want to get folks who like the beach to my website. So possibly the keyword beach is only .10. So my purchase of so may clicks of the beach word at a dime a visitor may give me a profitable traffic flow. Once the traffic comes to my site I will want them to notice the links that are up on my site because my web site or blog talks about the beachfront property availble at this fun beach resort. Since I am talking about beach front property Google search engines read this and automaticaly put up beach front property sponsored ads on my site. So when is the pay off for me? The pay off is the ratio of my visitors that I have sent by way of my Google adwords and the conversion ratio of those folks who click on a ad while visiting.

Just like any business venture some are better at certain business marketing techniques.

You will not know if you have a niche for argitrage unless you try.

So here it is again, pay for the traffic at a lower click cost, for example pay Google .05 cents for the keyword California beaches, then in your blog or content of your website write about the beach at this destination resort and even mention the words "property" and real estate". Doing that you will notice Google will start to place thru a automated program links that are revelent to your content. Some of the links will be sponsored Real Estate links, yahoo! Since "real estate " keywords pay very high you will do great!.

Like has been stated you have to watch conversion and tweak your keywords you pay to your content subject and try to have the rate you get paid for a click much higher than what you pay Google to "push" that traffic to your site.

I hope this helps in a little way to clear this up. I will say I can let the system work pretty much on its own. I only spend small amounts of time in my Google account tweaking this system as it runs on its own pretty much once you place the code.

Google gives you an account that is easy to manage all your ad campaigns. Its affordable to everyone, you can start with a couple bucks if you want, lets say you buy 100 clicks for .10 cents, thats only $10.00.

Roderick

 

[HiSoC8Y]

Does namedrive.com allow arbitrage method?

What about Google AdWords, it doesnt mind advertising for parked domains?

 

[VirtualT]

don't use adwords -> adsense, its an easy way to fry your adsense account

 

[HiSoC8Y]

what about AdWords -> NameDrive.com ? is that ok?

 

[netmeg]

don't use adwords -> adsense, its an easy way to fry your adsense account

Unless you know what you are doing. I've been using AdWords to drive traffic to several developed websites with AdSense on them for several years. Almost all my quality scores are good and great, and my minimum bids low. Some days I spend more on AdWords than I make in AdSense, but then other days I make way more in AdSense, so that ultimately, I'm ahead. As soon as I'm not, I either make changes or drop it and bring up another site.

In every case, I have spent a lot of time researching and analyzing the niche before I start out.

(Also doesn't hurt that I'm an AdWords Professional)

That said, I've never yet tried to drive PPC traffic to a parked page. Dunno if I could make that work without so much control over content that it would not really be considered parked anymore.

The way I understand it, you cannot use PPC to drive traffic to someplace with a Google feed, therefore no, you can't use it with Namedrive.

 

[HiSoC8Y]

ah, any other parking place without google feeds?

 

[gawnd]

Adwords terms have recently been changed to explicitly prohibit driving adwords to parked pages:

Don't promote template sites for ad networks such as AdSense.
Advertising is not permitted for the promotion of template sites for ad networks. This includes products and services that create template or pre-generated websites solely intended to profit from ads.

I know google has closed adsense accounts for arbitrage, but has anyone had their adwords account shutdown for it?

 

[NPKJB]

The way I understand it, you cannot use PPC to drive traffic to someplace with a Google feed, therefore no, you can't use it with Namedrive.

So using Adwords to drive traffic to my sites at Parked.com is ok?
But I can't use YPN to drive traffic to my sites at Parked.com because they use a Yahoo feed.

Is this correct?

 

[DnPresident]

No

That's not the way I understand it, I'm under the impression you can drive adwords,yahoo,ask,msn or any other top tier providers to Parked with their Yahoo feed.

What the Forums are saying is that you can't drive traffic to a parking company that uses a google feed period. Which is not true as far as I know, Of course going by the T.O.S of just about any and all parking services prohibit paid traffic but Everyone I've talked to has no problem with it, but who knows what tomorrow may bring?

So using Adwords to drive traffic to my sites at Parked.com is ok?
But I can't use YPN to drive traffic to my sites at Parked.com because they use a Yahoo feed.

Is this correct?

 

[netmeg]

Adwords terms have recently been changed to explicitly prohibit driving adwords to parked pages:



I know google has closed adsense accounts for arbitrage, but has anyone had their adwords account shutdown for it?

Well, that's the thing. It has to look like a real, developed site (so in effect, it has to BE a real, developed site)

This past summer, Google sent out a bunch of notices to AdWords advertisers advising them that "their business model did not fit the AdWords model" or words to that effect. Previously, they just jacked the minimum bids to $5 or $10. This was the first time they actually told people they weren't welcome in the program. There were a handful of people on WebmasterWorld who were caught up in it. A couple managed to get a reversal, the rest were out.

I haven't had any experience with YPN advertising (except advertising for clients) so I don't know what their rules are. They won't accept me in the program because of my fireworks site, and they're too brain dead to realize I'm not selling fireworks, I'm providing information on when and where the community fireworks displays are scheduled.

Which is not true as far as I know, Everyone I've talked to has no problem with it, but who knows what tomorrow may bring?

I haven't looked every place, but if there's a parking company out there with a Google feed that allows AdWords or other PPC traffic, I'd like to know about it. I was always told that it was a Google regulation to the parking companies, but I can't remember who told me that, so maybe it was wrong information.

 

[DnPresident]

I haven't looked every place, but if there's a parking company out there with a Google feed that allows AdWords or other PPC traffic, I'd like to know about it. I was always told that it was a Google regulation to the parking companies, but I can't remember who told me that, so maybe it was wrong information.

I must have been editing just as you were quoting me but as I said according to the T.O.S paid traffic is usually prohibited just about everywhere.

Many many people are doing this and having no problems. I believe that if enforced it would really put google in the back seat of Yahoo quickly. Big money on both sides of campaigns and advertisers for google.

 

[mrizos]

I must have been editing just as you were quoting me but as I said according to the T.O.S paid traffic is usually prohibited just about everywhere.

Many many people are doing this and having no problems. I believe that if enforced it would really put google in the back seat of Yahoo quickly. Big money on both sides of campaigns and advertisers for google.

Well, I can tell you that namedrive does not allow it...they just banned me for a mistake a few minutes ago. I accidently sent some adwords traffic to my 1 domain over there for about a day or two.