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Automation in Domaining

Labeled as analysis in General Domain Discussion, started by Save Breach, Oct 11, 2020

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  1. Save Breach

    Save Breach Established Member

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    I feel domainers do quite a lot of work by hand which could otherwise be automated. Have you ever thought about automating your workflow and making some useful integrations between your tools that can give you bulk data with minimal effort?

    Personally, the areas which I feel can be optimized with automation are:
    • Market research: SEO Keyword research. Automating keyword research. Trend analysis and keyword alert (notification mechanism for popular potential keywords). Keywordtool integration.
    • Marketing: collecting potential leads, send automated emails and cold calls (integrated with IVR software) and automatically sending follow up leads to clients
    • Domain appraisal: Periodic bulk appraisal of domains. Scraping past sales from forums, sources like GoDaddy and NameBio.
    • Storing sales data and inventory data in a database, generating sales analytics
    • Auctions and drop domains data, all in one place. A live feed that collects auctions and closeouts data from every auction platform -- GoDaddy, Namejet, Snapdomains, NameLiquidate, etc.
    • Bulk domain history. Bulk domain ownership history. Automatic extraction of that data corresponding/related to the assets in ownership. Extracting related domains, making an alternative of dotdb (I have already made a custom solution based on more extensive DNS databases I have)
    • A notification integration to notify about domain renewals, ending auctions, etc.
    • A custom dashboard/admin panel to manage everything
    • Missing something? -- comment it?
    I can think of it as a sort of Zapier (which primarily serves to specific niches like marketing) for the domainer.

    I already made some lightweight automation (free and open source) for appraisals and logo generation -- https://github.com/hackerpain/domaining and a bulk valuation online tool, https://hackerpain.github.io/bulkvaluator/ and a paid GD appraisal chrome extension. Planning to make something more powerful for commercial purpose and personal usage. Your feedback is appreciated

    Can you think of something more powerful that can reduce your working hours/the amount of manpower/man hours your work needs?
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2020
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  2. biggie

    biggie GreenFriendly.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hi

    i like using my hands
    that's we got them, instead of fins.

    just imagine

    one day, in the matrix...
    domains will automatically register themselves and automatically send emails to prospective buyers.
    profits from sales will be used to muscle out humans.
    then they will unite with existing bots and take over the internet.

    so, be careful what you digitals ask for.

    :)

    imo...
     
  3. HotKey

    HotKey Made in Canada VIP

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    The human touch is quickly becoming irrelevant, down this path.

    The automated approach takes out the excitement and heart, not to mention jobs. Soon, what exactly will be left for us humans..

    Guess everyone wants to lay brick and pour concrete eh?

    Think of it this way, the time "saved" that automation gives you, then what? Will we then find ways to automate that free time as well? It's already happening, before our very eyes, in every aspect of our lives. Even simple joys such as taking a picture and going home to edit it have become automated.

    We are handing over control to software and programs.. programming our minds to become stimulated and rewarded by artificial means, and leaving our bodies lazy and weak.

    **

    That being said; I commend your programming abilities and the access given via GitHub for others to harness and improve upon. I think with some of the areas you mention, a lightweight tool suffices and more than enough, eg. storage and renewals, while other areas would be unreliable and unnecessary for automation.
     
  4. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP

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    Have list know the trouble maker Registrars;
    Keep mind Regs take a week to transfer away.
    Those Registrars’ will never get my business..

    Samer
     
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2020
  5. lock

    lock DomainUsed.com VIP

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    I offer a lot of free software and tools on my sites mainly in regards to seo i would have largest free collection.
     
  6. bruhne

    bruhne Established Member

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    I enjoy the hands-on treasure hunt.
     
  7. Ntmt

    Ntmt Top Contributor VIP

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    Automation is a power and efficiency if we are talking about a business, not a hobby. One having automated processes will be ahead of manual ones.
     
  8. twiki

    twiki Top Contributor VIP Gold Account

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    It's called ExpiredDomains.net .
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2020
  9. twiki

    twiki Top Contributor VIP Gold Account

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    Where do you get those bulk appraisal results from, GD? They're completely bonkers and seem like GD ones.

    On the opposite note.

    As a person who has already solved the automated appraisal issue I really appreciate your efforts. I'm saying this as I do have my own private tools that are very accurate in this line. The kind of prices an experienced domainer would be able to set. I have a very unique perspective on domaining tech, as I'm a full stack developer, serial entrepreneur and domainer. Kind of a rare mix I guess, the one needed in such a case.

    I often look at tools out there and they are really, really crude. Using all sorts of algos that push the price all over the place, a totally useless result. Any experienced domainer knows this.

    But. What I can tell you is that solving this riddle requires a mammoth amount of work, data, code and tweaking, way far more than a single developer can do. It requires a team, very good ideas as to how to do, and a significant budget just to crack this open. Oh, and at least one full year of work, or perhaps more. Several return-to-the-drawing-board stages to get it further.

    If you were able to untangle just the appraisal thing, you'd be a rich man. But again it's far more complicated than it appears. If I were you, I would probably look at getting serious investment to get this done. But you need to have the right solution at first, and that is going to be tough.

    I've got offers to sell my private appraisal tool from a couple big names in the domaining industry, but unfortunately it's not for sale - and it never will. Reason is, if you have a terrain with a gold mine, you don't sell the terrain, you mine the gold.

    Edit: We domainers are a special bunch, each one with personal habits and style.

    The one thing that indeed you can't remove is that personal style and touch. You're going to see this in the responses here. There will be tools here and there, good ones, bad ones, and everyone can pick some. But at the end of the day, if you have the money, the experience and the skills to negotiate, you probably don't need ANY tool. You know what and where to buy, you buy, hold, sell just like the big boys do.

    There is more interest in tools from newbie domainers, as they're looking for an edge to compensate the lack of skills. Unfortunately, there's no such thing. Experience is what fixes the problem.
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2020
  10. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP

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    @D Haynes DomLinks.com
    @loredan Domaininames.com
    Domaining.com Feed

    Amazing websites.

    Samer
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2020
  11. Deven Patel

    Deven Patel Founder, Alter.com Blue Account

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    That's a great start! Plenty of tools already exist that solve each of the individual problems but there's still room for an all-in-one solution.

    Regarding appraisals, I have to agree with @twiki. Historical sales data certainly helps narrow it down but there's still a big creative component that will be hard to automate (i.e. each person will value the domain differently based on his/her experience). And since every domain is unique, it makes it even harder.

    Like the saying goes, one man's trash is another man's treasure...
     
  12. Save Breach

    Save Breach Established Member

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    Yes, this data is GD's repurposed for a bulk online appraisal tool. That's the purpose of the tool, fetch GD value data in bulk.

    Cheers
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2020

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