At GoDaddy, how do I know if a domain is in transfer lock?

[Erdy]

Hi,

I've just sold a domain at sedo with fixed price. The domain is at godaddy. The buyer wants an EPP code.

I suspect godaddy has applied a 60 day transfer lock for this domain but I'm not sure. Where can I check this? The domain was created in 2006. I bought it at expiring godaddy auctions 19 days ago.

Urgent help needed.

Thanks
Erdinc

 

[DN_Hunter]

if you just bought it 19 days ago, I think the best you can do is a free push to another GD account.

You might be able to have them unlock the GD 60-day lock, but not sure if that will work???

To see the status you can go to manage domains and it should show up -- is it a .com or some other extension?

 

[realtimeregister]

Hi Erdinc,

Just check the WHOIS. If you see something like : Status: clientTransferProhibited then there is a lock on it.
The WHOIS info regarding the status usually explains itself.

Not sure how godaddy works but if there is a clienttransfer lock on it i assume you just can login to your godaddy account and remove the lock yourself.

 

[Erdy]

realtimeregister,
This is not how godaddy works and the whois info is irrelevant. The 60 day lock is a self imposed lock by godaddy because those idiots at godaddy think this is a good idea.

After I posted this thread, I made a small test. I changed the whois info of one of my godaddy domains. I added one word to the organization name.
If you do this godaddy will lock your domain for 60 days for transfers and this information is not shown anywhere in the domain control panel.

Then I unlocked the domain. Whois at godaddy shows:

Registry Status: ok

Then I requested EPP code and godaddy send me the code. Those fools at godaddy should not send me an EPP code because this transfer will fail.
Then I started a transfer at namecheap. And just as I expected I received an email from godaddy:

email title: Registrar Transfer Denied for ******.COM
email text:
Dear *** ****,

The transfer of ******.COM from GoDaddy.com, Inc. to another registrar could not be completed for the following reason(s):

Express written objection to the transfer from the Transfer Contact. (e.g. - email, fax, paper document or other processes by which the Transfer Contact has expressly and voluntarily objected through opt-in means).

The express written objection may be the result of a pending or recently completed Change of Registered Name Holder. This is an opt-in process during which the new Registered Name Holder agrees not to transfer for 60-days. This domain will be transferrable on 8/21/2010.

If you believe that this domain name does not fit the situation described above, go to Go Daddy Community - Get Involved & Get Answers for assistance.

Regards,
Domain Services
GoDaddy.com, Inc.

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Copyright 2010 GoDaddy.com, Inc.. All rights reserved

So there you have it. The answer to my original question is, you can not find out whether or not godaddy has locked your domain for 60 days unless you try to transfer.

So sedo wants EPP code. I can send them EPP code and the transfer will fail. Then the buyer will be upset thinking the code was incorrect.

DN_Hunter,
As I have just found out by testing myself, the domain status is not effected from Godaddy's self imposed 60 day transfer lock. It is not shown anywhere.

I'm also upset with sedo. Why are those guys allowing a transfer out from godaddy during a sale?

 

[Weber]

You shouldn't be transfering/pushing the name directly to the buyer.
Sedo requests the seller to "push" the name to Sedo's Godaddy account.

 

[Erdy]

Sedo requests the seller to "push" the name to Sedo's Godaddy account.

This is not the case. Here are screenshots:

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7756/86180543.gif
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4355/11216969.gif

I was expecting the same that you said but Sedo asks me for EPP code so the buyer can transfer. This is a big security problem since the buyer can argue he never received the domain. Sedo shouldn't be doing this. I agree with that.

 

[bmugford]

Yes, I have sold several domains recently that SEDO asked for the AUTH code for outgoing transfers.

Generally I just request to push the domain to SEDO's GD account and let them deal with the buyer.

GoDaddy will remove their self imposed 60 Day Lock on request. I have had it removed several times for outgoing transfers when needed.

Brad

This is not the case. Here are screenshots:

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7756/86180543.gif
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4355/11216969.gif

I was expecting the same that you said but Sedo asks me for EPP code so the buyer can transfer. This is a big security problem since the buyer can argue he never received the domain. Sedo shouldn't be doing this. I agree with that.

 

[fish]

You have two options. You can push to Sedo's GoDaddy account so they can do the Escrow that way. Also GoDaddy has been known to give an occasional pass on their own 60 day lock (nothing to do with real limitations, it's just their idea of security) so it might be worth a try contacting support and explaining your sold domain situation.

 

[tricolorro]

You shouldn't be transfering/pushing the name directly to the buyer.
Sedo requests the seller to "push" the name to Sedo's Godaddy account.

Yes and once you push the domain to Sedo's account, Godaddy will install a new 60 day lock.

The OP should tell the Sedo Transfer Agent that the domain cannot be transferred out because it is under GoDaddy House arrest.

 

[Erdy]

I gave Godaddy a call and they told me the domain is locked until 4 August 2010.

So yes, they lock down domains for 60 days that you purchased over godaddy auctions and there is no way you can see that information inside your account and they will even unlock your domain and send you an EP code but they will reject the transfer.

The lock starts after the domain is in your account, not after you buy it. It takes a few days to arrive in your account.

Even if it might be possible to get it unlocked it at GD, I decided that I won't give EPP code to buyer as a matter of principle. Screw sedo. They shouldn't ask me that. This is just asking for trouble. The buyer could complete the transfer using similar whois to mine and argue that it wasn't him who transferred the domain.

The seller could start a transfer to his account at another registrar. Then a day or two later give the EPP code to buyer. Of course sellers own transfer will be completed before buyers transfer. So the domain will end up on sellers other account. Then the seller could argue it wasn't him who transferred out the domain.

Why did sedo suddenly start being stupid I don't know. It's not a real escrow if they don't take over ownership of the domain.

 

[tricolorro]

Why did sedo suddenly start being stupid I don't know. It's not a real escrow if they don't take over ownership of the domain.

Erdinc,

You really shouldn't fault Sedo or the Buyer in this case.

Normally Sedo will ask you to push a domain to their GoDaddy account
and then Sedo will push it to the Buyer's GoDaddy account.

I bet what happened here is the Buyer told Sedo he wanted to transfer the domain to his Registrar of choice and neither the Buyer or Sedo knew you had just purchased the domain at GoDaddy auction.

When you buy an expired domain at GoDaddy you get to keep the original registration date so it gives the appearance that the domain is aged enough for transfer out.
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It's not a real escrow if they don't take over ownership of the domain.

That is absolutely not true.

Escrow.com does not take "ownership" of a domain.

The escrow company's job is to make sure the Buyer and Seller perform according to the terms of the contract.

Sedo as a matter of practice does often take temporary custody of a domain but they do not have an account at every single Registrar so sometimes do not.

In this case, Sedo asked you to provide the EPP code for transfer out not knowing the domain was locked down.

Had you been able to transfer out, Sedo would have made sure the Buyer received the domain and then would have released the funds to you.

That is what the escrow company is supposed to do.

 

[Erdy]

tricolorro,

...
Normally Sedo will ask you to push a domain to their GoDaddy account
and then Sedo will push it to the Buyer's GoDaddy account.

I bet what happened here is the Buyer told Sedo he wanted to transfer the domain to his Registrar of choice...

Yes, that's exactly what I think what happened. However, this doesn't mean sedo should ask me to transfer the domain directly to the buyer. Sedo should take over the domain and then deal with the buyer himself.

That is absolutely not true.
Escrow.com does not take "ownership" of a domain.

tricolorro,
You are too excited. Escrow.com does not provide a true escrow service. Because they are escrow.com does not mean they do it the right way. A true escrow should take over both the money and and the goods and only after that they should switch them over to the two parties. That's how a true escrow works.

Moniker's and sedo's escrow were considered true escrows. But now sedo is doing crap as well.

 

[tricolorro]

tricolorro,



Yes, that's exactly what I think what happened. However, this doesn't mean sedo should ask me to transfer the domain directly to the buyer. Sedo should take over the domain and then deal with the buyer himself.



tricolorro,
You are too excited. Escrow.com does not provide a true escrow service. Because they are escrow.com does not mean they do it the right way. A true escrow should take over both the money and and the goods and only after that they should switch them over to the two parties. That's how a true escrow works.

Moniker's and sedo's escrow were considered true escrows. But now sedo is doing crap as well.

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"You are too excited."

lol I'm actually quite calm and relaxed.