.asia scam??

[dugu]

I registered a few .asia domains with Godaddy, right after the countdown ended. The process went through, and I have paid for them. After a while, I revied this kind of emails from godaddy:

"Dear Dugu,

The following domain name has failed to be registered:

BANGKOK.ASIA

Error: Add domain failed for BANGKOK.ASIA: 2306:Parameter value policy error (bangkok.asia is reserved for sunrise1 application)

We will evaluate this error and retry the registration
if appropriate.

If we are unable to successfully register the domain
name, your account will be credited accordingly. Please
allow one business day for the refund to be processed.

Please contact GoDaddy.com, Inc. if you need any further
assistance:
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/support.asp?prog_id=GoDaddy&isc=gdbb14

Sincerely,
GoDaddy.com, Inc."



WTF is this?? Does anyone have any idea? I though it was first come, first served!!

 

[dugu]

could it be possible that they have registered the domains for themselves??

 

[PAUL-B]

could it be possible that they have registered the domains for themselves??

That's very unlikely. The demand for the good names are so high that most of them went during the pre-reg. rounds...

 

[himal]

I am little confused after coming to this forum. I was able to register some of the name mentioned above thru Netfirms.

I even got order confirmation emails from them. The domain names i register was money.asia and telecom.asia

I have no clue what's going on. Any idea?

 

[zuriko]

EURODNS are scummers!!!
until today thay had ads for preregistration dot asia and "live registration from 28.03"

That's very unlikely. The demand for the good names are so high that most of them went during the pre-reg. rounds...

PAUL-B are you from eurodns? you have advert in your sig. its eurodns scumming!!!

 

[damagedgoods]

Complete Incompetence or Complete Scam?

Incompetence or a Scam?

In my opinion it has to be one or the other, and anyone here who has experienced the so called .asia landrush first hand must agree.

BTW Here are the current top sales which oddly have not updated since the sunrise 2

ace.asia $20,501
mediaworld.asia $10,000
tyco.asia $7,600
wellness.asia $5,900
spotlight.asia $5,700
edge.asia $5,400
parliament.asia $5,200
reach.asia $5,100
lifesavers.asia $5,100
camel.asia $5,100

On feb 20 2008 I pre-registered bet.asia through godaddy.com during landrush full well knowing there would be more than one applicant, willing and waiting for an auction notice. I qualify the charter requirements due to my wife being a citizen of the Philippines.

We never received any notice from the registry, dotasia.org, pool.com, or any other .asia player. Only godaddy which sent the initial confirmation email and then several weeks later we received a "we have submitted your application to .asia registry and if there are other applicants for the name, you will be invited to participate in an auction for the name.

I waited patiently for the auction notice right up until the 24th of this month then saw bet.asia floating along the ticker closing on the 25th for a laughable $10. I then contacted godaddy (bet.asia is still in my portfolio as pending btw) which they replied "I would have to take it up with .asia registry." I strongly disagree with that as I have no business relationship with .asia directly, and it's godaddy who took my money, but is getting off topic. I then contacted .asia registry and asked why we were not invited to take part in an auction, but received no reply. Within a matter of hours after sending that email, I noticed they had removed bet.asia from the ticker. I still see bet.asia closing 25th

Domain Closing Date
abx.asia March 25, 2008
adult.asia March 26, 2008
americaneagle.asia March 24, 2008
amor.asia March 25, 2008
bes.asia March 26, 2008
bet.asia March 25, 2008
bingo.asia March 25, 2008
cityofsydney.asia March 26, 2008
damo.asia March 24, 2008
dating.asia March 25, 2008
davis.asia March 26, 2008
deloitteaudit.asia March 24, 2008
deloitte-audit.asia March 24, 2008
deloitte-consulting.asia March 25, 2008
deloittetax.asia March 25, 2008
deloitte-tax.asia March 26, 2008
downloads.asia March 26, 2008
drugs.asia March 24, 2008
email.asia March 26, 2008
e-mail.asia March 25, 2008
eon.asia March 26, 2008
exa.asia March 25, 2008
falconstor.asia March 26, 2008
find.asia March 24, 2008
flux.asia March 25, 2008
godaddy.asia March 26, 2008
grange.asia March 24, 2008
horoscopes.asia March 25, 2008
investment.asia March 26, 2008
isetan.asia March 24, 2008
jeandunand.asia March 26, 2008

Domain Closing Date
jean-dunand.asia March 25, 2008
jokes.asia March 24, 2008
lgt.asia March 25, 2008
limit.asia March 26, 2008
lottery.asia March 24, 2008
magnolia.asia March 25, 2008
makro.asia March 24, 2008
men.asia March 26, 2008
npc.asia March 24, 2008
obc.asia March 25, 2008
phone.asia March 26, 2008
polar.asia March 25, 2008
remax-realestate.asia March 24, 2008
rugby.asia March 25, 2008
simon.asia March 26, 2008
spandex.asia March 24, 2008
sunflex.asia March 25, 2008
suunto.asia March 26, 2008
synnex.asia March 24, 2008
titan.asia March 26, 2008
toro.asia March 25, 2008
townsendengineering.asia March 26, 2008
trading.asia March 24, 2008
travelinsurance.asia March 25, 2008
twinsbaseball.asia March 26, 2008
vanityfair.asia March 24, 2008
vondario.asia March 25, 2008
wacoal.asia March 26, 2008
wrestling.asia March 24, 2008
yourtown.asia March 25, 2008

Why don't we see any updated information, whois, who won etc?

The answer is clear in my mind that this is either a scam or a case of gross incompetence. IMO Godaddy should be held at least partially liable for the misrepresentation and complete waste of my time and money as the promotion was all taken from their website not .asia, and godaddy should hold .asia liable for the turmoil it has caused their customers.

There is no transparency within this process, no accountability or arbitration. This is a big money grab!

I never really thought that much of the .asia extension gaining any ground, with the exception of a few nice keywords like mine, and many of you above attempted to register, so for me it was either get a really premium .asia name or nothing at all. Today launches open registration, but I for one will not register a single domain from these scammers!

I believe a Class Action Lawsuit is in order. :kickass:

 

[vitalir]

What scam are you talking about? I see it as a fault of .asia registry Not Godaddy.. No one got scammed so Relax and chill out.

I don't think so. Dot asia web whois service has always been showing reserved names as reserved. It is your registrars that scammed you. So take a deeper breath and chill out mate. I am just sick of ".asia scam" threads.

 

[lizza]

I have been facing the same problem in Moniker.

 

[damagedgoods]

Well you may be tired of .asia scam threads, but I am tired of being mislead by the .asia reg process to waste my time and money. BTW bet.asia WHOIS say's nothing more than "sunrise application". As far as who's ultimately responsible; all parties involved have some liability as to a misrepresentation of their product to the public. I was told that if one or more party reg a name, we would be invited to an auction. This was the condition over which I was willing to invest time and some money. This did not happen and .asia has ignored my request for an explanation.

You are tired of reading a few little paragraphs in this thread? I am tired of reading pages for weeks over the mish mash .asia reg process information.

 

[onlinegelir]

Do you guys know which registrar give the right message for reserved names?
That will save a lot of time.
Thanks.

Try Domainmonster.com


I thought I have bought bangkok.asia, too...As well as seoul.asia,bejing.asia,tokyo.asia,movies.asia,health.asia...
(through godaddy)

that was to good to be true

 

[vitalir]

Well you may be tired of .asia scam threads, but I am tired of being mislead by the .asia reg process to waste my time and money. BTW bet.asia WHOIS say's nothing more than "sunrise application". As far as who's ultimately responsible; all parties involved have some liability as to a misrepresentation of their product to the public. I was told that if one or more party reg a name, we would be invited to an auction. This was the condition over which I was willing to invest time and some money. This did not happen and .asia has ignored my request for an explanation.

You are tired of reading a few little paragraphs in this thread? I am tired of reading pages for weeks over the mish mash .asia reg process information.

Your app for bet.asia was it sunrise? Did you claim a prior right to it due to TM, etc.?

 

[damagedgoods]

No, I didn't. i registered feb 20 which was deemed "landrush" preregistration for all the names that didn't sell in sunrise 1-2 and 3 The only prerequisite information available to me was charter eligibility which I have found is not enforced anyway. ie; proxy contact through resellerclub etc.
Although I live in Silicon Valley USA my wife is a legal citizen of the philippines and we have a residence and business presence there. Based on everything I have read over the last month, I should have been invited to participate in an auction. The closest thing to TM rights would probably be Black Entertainment Television BET.com and didn't think they would have much interest in .asia nor did they reg in the 4 previous stages. The word BET is in fact generic, and based on the rules .asia registry posted online I should have been invited to an auction. this is the first time in history that domains are not available on first come first serve basis so they have an obligation to be clear on this new registration process. You can clearly see if you visit dotasia.org that the data and closing dates are not on real time, nor is there any true sense of disclosure. Thank you for asking.

 

[vitalir]

Based on everything I have read over the last month, I should have been invited to participate in an auction.

Look I understand and share your frustration but the quoted phrase above is where your mistake is. No you should not been invited because your app is landrush and there been sunrise apps for bet.asia - check here http://www.registry.asia/info/DotAsia-DomainsAppliedFor--2008-02-27.txt (and it is earlier than yours with regard to coming to the registry, not to your registrar) And a valid sunrise app is always of higher priority than a landrush one. This is in the rules and basically understood without saying - it's the whole purpose of sunrise phrase. So I don't see anything is wrong here at all and hope you will get a refund from your registrar (if not then this is a rip-off by your registrar, not .asia).

 

[damagedgoods]

Appreciate you taking the time, and yes I see that one week after I preregistered this took place. I feel that based on all the hype and the system described as one that would limit the "chaos" as they defined it, it should not have been available to register. The registrars are given an API and the data comes from the .asia registry. They took my money and it still sits in my domain portfolio as application pending. This is not like a backorder where you know, and I waited until after all people who would have legal rights to the domain expired before registering.

Tell me then? Since I registered bet.asia on the 20th of feb 08 and what your showing me is in the 27th of feb 08 and since today, one month later it's a first come first serve registration I think, and since celebrity and pioneer and sunrise 123 and blah blah blah prereg started in oct 07 or something like that; when did you say was the window when parties can preregister generic .asia names and then compete in auction if more than one registers?

 

[vitalir]

Appreciate you taking the time, and yes I see that one week after I preregistered this took place. I feel that based on all the hype and the system described as one that would limit the "chaos" as they defined it, it should not have been available to register. The registrars are given an API and the data comes from the .asia registry. They took my money and it still sits in my domain portfolio as application pending. This is not like a backorder where you know, and I waited until after all people who would have legal rights to the domain expired before registering.

Tell me then? Since I registered bet.asia on the 20th of feb 08 and what your showing me is in the 27th of feb 08 and since today, one month later it's a first come first serve registration I think, and since celebrity and pioneer and sunrise 123 and blah blah blah prereg started in oct 07 or something like that; when did you say was the window when parties can preregister generic .asia names and then compete in auction if more than one registers?

Anytime with the precondition that names applied for are still available after all sunrise apps against them have been checked and none approved.

With regard to API - yes it should have responded with "applied for" status. But I've seen some registrars' showed that status, some not, therefore it should be down to registrars it seems.

 

[zuriko]

Pending actions in progress: 8

(Domain Action Description Todo by
properties.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
baku.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
azeri.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
azer.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
exchange.asia new Submitted to the registry EuroDNS
freelance.asia new Submitted to the registry EuroDNS
classifieds.asia new Submitted to the registry EuroDNS
marketplace.asia new Submitted to the registry EuroDNS
Pending actions in progress: 8

Legend
The action will be processed automatically)

This info i got today in my account --- is not scam?????
all this domains already registered , but not on my name. only azeri not registered. EURODNS ---SCAM!!!!

 

[onewordonly]

You are tired of reading a few little paragraphs in this thread? I am tired of reading pages for weeks over the mish mash .asia reg process information.

It has easily been the most deplorable mess ever of a new domain extension release, that I know of anyway. So many problems, you can't tell if a domain is free or not on most registers or even the main registry for whois. Many of us getting funds taken out of our PayPal or cc accounts by registers for domains that are not even available and then having to wait for days till we get out money back. This could be difficult for some on low budgets. .ASIA will be known for "How Not To Release a New Domain Extension". The whole contact thing is also very confusing and there is no instructions on how to get this right. I live in Australia and don't even need to have a contact but that was not accounted for when I go to register, I'm treated as outside Asia region.

 

[henrysim]

I think the problem is due to miscomunication between .asia and registar,

i have pre registered sex.asia during landrush, after i registered it i found out that sex.asia has been registered during the sunrise. so if the auction for sex.asia is running, i'm sure that i wouldn't be invited to the auction too. then i'll just wait for the refund from my registar.

similar to your case, the different is mine hasn't gone to auction yet :zzz:

 

[davnin]

almost all english geodomains.asia are reserved!
The only geodomain that I was able to register is pechino.asia which means beijing in italian.

I live in Australia and don't even need to have a contact but that was not accounted for when I go to register, I'm treated as outside Asia region.

Are you sure? isn't Australia in Oceania continent?

 

[Coopey]

almost all english geodomains.asia are reserved!
The only geodomain that I was able to register is pechino.asia which means beijing in italian.



Are you sure? isn't Australia in Oceania continent?

.asia also covers countries in Australasia (Oceania) too, I assume they thought .asiapacific was too long.

Members of DotAsia come from a diverse geographical basis in the Pan-Asia and Asia-Pacific community

 

[dugu]

well, I got my refunds from godaddy, still I really believe this is was a complete scam, and if I had more time and more resources, I would have taken Gddy and the other parts responsible to the court. There was no transparency in this process, and it should have been.