.mobi .Asia/.Mobi 2008 Naysayer "Massive Failure"

[NewWorldArk]

http://public.icann.org/node/348

The New gTLD's .ASIA and .MOBI will fail, miserably...
Submitted by John Daniels on Sat, 2008-02-16 03:42.

Greetings.

The new GTLD's are a complete waste of time and effort, and are a massive failure before they've even been initiated. No one will build websites on them, and only speculators will buy them. Insiders and speculators have already bought up all the premium generic names. .MOBI and .ASIA domains are now worthless, because there will be little or no development on these names. The so called "Sunrise" and Landrush" are a joke: these periods were done so quietly and under the radar that only a very very small set of insiders have the best names. As a result, their greed will be their undoing; because just like real estate, the value of a domain is not just dependent on the generic term, but whether or not there is any development in the area.

To Compare, owning one of these domains will be like all those empty houses that speculators bought in the US in 2005. To build a website on .ASIA or .MOBI is like building a house in the middle of the desert, with no people around for miles. Its a shame. I wont even bother with these domains. Who cares about them if you cant get at least one premium name?

Just happen to run across this post today at public.icann.org, Sounds like SomeOne's a little bit bitter.

 

[PolarBear]

Insiders and speculators have already bought up all the premium generic names.

Nope. Thousands of the best ones are still held by mtld.

Mobi is already a success. Many many companies own their company names and trademarks as .mobis and they are now starting to use them: Opel.mobi, TexasInstruments.mobi, Fox.mobi... The number is growing each day, have a look at the mobi sightings thread.

 

[gou]

No one will build websites on them

Yet the number of developed .mobi sites is increasing everyday...

 

[Kate]

Nope. Thousands of the best ones are still held by mtld.

I find it crazy that some speculators will blindly pay $$$,$$$ for these so-called reserved names while the real end users with deep pockets shun them.

I also tend to believe that most of the new TLDs have no added value whatsoever and amount to namespace pollution. And the worse is yet to come.

 

[Keith]

I find it crazy that some speculators will blindly pay $$$,$$$ for these so-called reserved names while the real end users with deep pockets shun them.

I also tend to believe that most of the new TLDs have no added value whatsoever and amount to namespace pollution. And the worse is yet to come.

Are they shunning them or do they just not know about them yet? Sure most domainers have heard of mobi but that does'nt amount to jack. Give it time. For a tld that is 1.5 years old I'd say mobi is doing outstanding!

 

[sags]

I find it crazy that some speculators will blindly pay $$$,$$$ for these so-called reserved names while the real end users with deep pockets shun them.

I assume you are talking about "generic" premiums, as there are a lot of companies who own or have developed the dot mobi for their business.

There are also some companies taking registrants to WIPO hearings to get their TM domain back.

So, if you are talking about "generics", I would say there are a lot of "generic" dot com domains that are parked or owned by someone other than a business.

I agree that it seems incomprehensible that some of these companies wouldn't pay the asking price for a domain, like pizza.com (which is listed for sale), in order to increase their customer base and keep the domain away from competitors, but companies do what they think is in their best interests.

I wouldn't expect a new extension like mobi, to be any farther advanced along this trail than dot com is.

Regards,

Sags

 

[dag]

I wouldn't expect a new extension like mobi, to be any farther advanced along this trail than dot com is.

:bingo:

We domainers know how valuable generics are and will be, yet a majority of corporate America is still learning, whether it be .COM, .MOBI, or .WHATEVER.

Once they really start to "get it," generics in all extensions will begin to rise even higher.

And by the way, regarding the blog post mentioned in the first post in this thread, the blogger clearly doesn't know what the hell they're talking about, so why give them the time of day?

 

[NewWorldArk]

And by the way, regarding the blog post mentioned in the first post in this thread, the blogger clearly doesn't know what the hell they're talking about, so why give them the time of day?

It was strictly for Entertainment Value, But what I found interesting is that it was a Recent Post: Feb 16 of 08,
Obviously the Poster is well out of the (Reality) Loop.

Clearly Sites are being developed by Large Corps, Small Businesses and Even Domainers alike.

It sounded to Me more like a "Missed the Boat" Post than anything else.

 

[thebiffenator]

http://public.icann.org/node/348

Just happen to run across this post today at public.icann.org, Sounds like SomeOne's a little bit bitter.

All I got to do is laugh at this mockery! Someone must be jealous, "not you newworldark" but this charicter for that article..."if its a massive failure", then why Have I been contacted by some very nice respectable media companies, (that are backed by "VC"....)


No argument here, but my stats alone prove that .mobi is happeing and happening very fast.....300 users now for ipad! And who ever this Dainels is, I challange him to look at my stats!

I just don't know...why people feel the need to mock .mobi and even .asia.....(.asia is brand new)

When you miss the boat...then you miss the boat...then you got to swim to cross the great ocean of wealth and drown after....or...you can catch the next boat!

 

[NewWorldArk]

Response from Caroline Greer at "public.icann.org"

http://public.icann.org/node/348

The New gTLD's .ASIA and .MOBI will fail, miserably...
Submitted by John Daniels on Sat, 2008-02-16 03:42.

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Greetings. The new GTLD's are a complete waste of time and effort, and are a massive failure before they've even been initiated. No one will build websites on them, and only speculators will buy them. Insiders and speculators have already bought up all the premium generic names. .MOBI and .ASIA domains are now worthless, because there will be little or no development on these names. The so called "Sunrise" and Landrush" are a joke: these periods were done so quietly and under the radar that only a very very small set of insiders have the best names. As a result, their greed will be their undoing; because just like real estate, the value of a domain is not just dependent on the generic term, but whether or not there is any development in the area.

To Compare, owning one of these domains will be like all those empty houses that speculators bought in the US in 2005. To build a website on .ASIA or .MOBI is like building a house in the middle of the desert, with no people around for miles. Its a shame. I wont even bother with these domains. Who cares about them if you cant get at least one premium name?

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Submitted by CAG on Tue, 2008-02-19 21:31.

John Daniel,

I beg to differ. The TLD space is reasonably competitive (and competition is set to increase with the introduction of new TLDs of course) but there is still room for TLDs that can show real value. And competition is good - it raises the game.

dotMobi is on track to hit one million domain names in a couple of months - not bad going for a TLD that launched just over 18 months ago. Rome was not built in a day but we are seeing more and more sites go live every day take a look at http://mtld.mobi/showcase/all] and some real consumer use proof points.

And you have every chance in the world at securing a .mobi premium name - we have allocated less than 500, leaving us with 5000 to go!

Caroline Greer
dotMobi

Nice.

 

[hedgefund]

So dotMobi has roughly 50 auction sessions to go to allocate all those 5k names. It will take several years to accomplish the task.

 

[aggieuk]

Looks like MR blogger hasn't always been a hater! If you look into his post a little deeper he says that basically he's pissed that he owns no premium mobi's and so due to that fact mobi sucks! What a cock! LOL i don't own any premium .com's so that should mean i think .com's a failure!! What a complete tool he is!! ha ha ha

 

[accent]

Well, he is right about development-
but he clearly knows nothing about .mobi but the name.

Good to see Caroline jump in there, and it never hurts to see her reminded about the necessity of development.

 

[newdomainer.mobi]

I must admit that I sympathise with his take on .Asia..... I'm not convinced that its a great idea...

.mobi - well, thats a different matter entirely!

 

[jmcc]

It might be a somewhat newbish question but who exactly is John Daniels and what does he know about web development in various TLDs?

Regards...jmcc

 

[hd404]

dotMOBI, the prospects are good.
dotAsia, there is no hope.

 

[accent]

It might be a somewhat newbish question but who exactly is John Daniels and what does he know about web development in various TLDs?

Regards...jmcc

His cousin Charlie has a great band.

 

[sundari]

.mobi has already fetched good fortune for the investors and still it is fetching.

IMO .ASIA has little or no potentiality when compared to .mobi because of the narrowness of the tld.

All the best for the .mobi investors.

Sundari

 

[MaxMcool]

With so many internet enabled mobile devices around these days, I think dot mobi will take off. Why not provide a streamlined .mobi version of your .com to suppliment your main site. It seems a lot easier to me for someone logging in with a blackberry or any smartphone etc. to type in say www.blackberry-server.mobi than get all confused with a subdomain like www.mobile.blackberry-server.com to find the quick loading mobile version of a website.
As for dot asia we will just have to wait and see, they seem a bit limited to me, though I have ordered a few to protect my own brand names.