Are we idiots?

[Doughmange]

Richard Dynas aka @uglydork seems to have disdain for the NamePros community.

Let me be 100% clear. This thread is not meant to incite anger/negativity, but to bring to light the opinions of an active member who uses this forum as a venue to acquire and sell domain names.

I decided to review his claims of getting 'destroyed' for selling a domain, and have found that none of this is true.

What did emerge was the story of how @imadoer went to escrow with @uglydork , and while in escrow Richard Dynas tried to sell the domain name to another party.
When Richard realized that his sale was not going to be successful, he dropped out of the escrow and went back on his commitment to buy.

You can make your own judgement on that kind of behavior.

You can find many great "helpful" posts from Rich such as:

I am sitting on the beach in Myrtle Beach as I type this - getting ready to pour
August is Siesta Key Florida for 2 weeks and January is Costa Rica for 10 days
I don't apologize for my life - it's awesome

I told them to change it weeks ago
Damn - this thread won't die and I still have another interview to go

I made $146,000 in one sale
That's all I really need to write - let that sink in

Let's all remember that this "big sale" came by pure luck, as Richie was looking to sell the Hatred.com domain name for as low as $5500 USD via PM at one point.

Let that sink in.

Finally, some of his posts have been less than truthful:

**The Hatred.com domain name was acquired for $4000 USD here on the NP forum.

To wrap everything up, you can see who Richie is tweeting to.

Birds of a feather flock together.

Buyer and seller be aware of the opinions of those who see to make money from you.

 

[DomainVP]

Yes, Birds of a feather do flock together. - let that sink in.

I think what is being referred to is the recent shill bidding and fake sales reports from the MediaOptions team via Andrew Rosener.

You can take the good and ignore the bad, but that's like doing business with Bernie Madoff after you know he scammed a lot of people.



From what I've seen over the years, when NP posts start to 'bother' the 'top brass' of the domain industry there is usually truth to all matters brought up.

A tiger doesn't lose sleep over the opinions of the shellfish or the sheep.

Yet any time the forum hits on some truth those tigers come out purring to justify their actions.

Remember that the hatred for NP members only came when the truth of Mr. Roseners activities started to emerge. I would be mad too if I got caught with my hand in the cookie jar and chocolate all over my face.

Some have humility and will admit when they are wrong, but others will just continue their tirade to their own detriment.

That is why companies address threads here seriously, and have a customer service presence on the forum.

 

[Kuffy]

The domain name industry seems to be pretty cut throat, just like most businesses these days. I'm old enough to remember that you weren't allowed on the floor of the English stock exchange unless you were wearing black shoes, and "my word is my bond" was true. We also wore suits, and whilst I was at the stock exchange I wore a stiff collar. These days "men" wear dresses, and break their promises almost all the time. Reputation is just a weapon of attack now, or a means to reciprocate favours.

 

[GeorgeQuang]

It's better to focus on domaining than finding other's tweets or post.
You can't earn anythings ( money, knowledge, friends .etc.) for doing that.

 

[uglydork]

And this is why I rarely come here anymore.

Words of wisdom from me -
If you hang with losers you are a loser
If you hang with liars you are a liar
If you hang with success you will achieve success

 

[Chris Hydrick]

@uglydork - You did not get destroyed for trying to help people. You did help people, and you were praised for such (rightfully) many times. Your actions and/or attitude there after, and ethics before the sale is what destroyed you. I would prefer not to waste any more time trying to explain this to you (again).

Are you accusing Andrew @MediaOptions of shill bidding and fake sales reports? You better have some proof to back this up or you just opened a can or worms with zero credibility.

Not sure if you've read this already, but HERE's a good place to catch up.

Words of wisdom from me -
If you hang with losers you are a loser
If you hang with liars you are a liar
If you hang with success you will achieve success

Words of wisdom from me - If you can't handle the heat...

Then don't ask for (or refer to your haters as) the appetizers.

https://twitter.com/andrewrosener/status/908521499962875904

 

[Cal2]

Words of wisdom from me -
If you hang with losers you are a loser
If you hang with liars you are a liar
If you hang with success you will achieve success

Your 'Words of wisdom' are based on so much false logic, faulty reasoning, they're laughable.

 

[SirDrago]

I don't get it.

Are you saying this thread should not have been posted in the 'review' section?

Per OP, this thread is reviewing if @uglydork's claims that he was destroyed for helping the community was accurate.

It was probably posted in the review section, as an attempt to let the thread take it's natural course, rather than post it in a section that is eligible to be trending on the homepage. ie review section isn't eligible to trend to my knowledge.

Reviewing members?
What's next? Xrays and rectal exams at login?
With all due respect people need to mind their own damn business if "that business" didn't pertain to them directly.

Who gains here?
Can you or anyone make money finding the truth?
How will discovering the truth better your life?
Can you rinse and repeat the answer for profit?

No, just another member wasting YOUR time with sh!t that will never make a difference in life.

P.s This actually belongs in lounge

 

[SirDrago]

That's the point...
There is no VALUE in this thread.
Let me ask you and everyone reading this.

How will the answer add CASH in your pocket?

 

[Emmy101]

Lots' of envy and jealousy is going on with this domaining industry

 

[wwwweb]

Supposedly namepros has 1,004,961, not sure how many are active, but namepros is simply the crowd sourcing of information, and has helped discover alot of scams, and frauds.

I think the Hatred.com sale is real, the buyer is a relevant trending in the news personality, who has access to probably some heavy backers. He is not conventional by any means, to some people dollars don't always make sense. Some people can go to las vegas, and spend $10K on bottle service in a single night, $150K to others is a shopping trip down rodeo drive. Economies of scale, and maybe he found his target guy, all good.

In domaining your only as good as your next domain, my spam box has a few sushi.com outbound emails, so I guess he is brokering now, which is good, all the upside of someone else's premium domain, with none of the investment, smart.

How many guys we see, come, and go chase money in, and out of this industry. Take domaining.com how active it was 3 years ago, and now the same 3-4 bloggers just keep pushing up the same stories, or industry PR.

All I can say is never put any single domainer on a pedestal, if you can pick up a phone, and have a meaningful conversation, and have some dollars, and sense to you, then you can be a broker also.

At the end of the day A R helps himself first, every good manager does this with an inner circle of peons, you bring them close, make them feel important, they bring you deals, nothing new in business. He is effectively managing them, in their hopes to emulate him. Only difference is he has backing of $$$, and they are simply chasing it. To rinse, and repeat a sale like hatred.com is very hard, it is a rush, for sure, is it a lifetime of drinking, and kicking back on a beach, hardly.

It is good he used the sale, to give him some broker status, same was done with the whiskey.com sale a few years back, pictures of the check, etc...

Some things in domaining are legit, and other times they are not, and sometimes they are a mix of both, but I think Hatred.com sale is real, and should be laid to rest.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

How will the answer add CASH in your pocket?

How will waiting 30 seconds to hold a door open for an old lady add CASH in your pocket?

I do it all the time. But not for money.

 

[karmaco]

Wow you are pretty riled up aren’t you? I don’t see the point in trying to destroy someone’s name who has not swindled anyone here and doesn’t seem to even come here anymore. In all fairness he got a boatload of hate here- no pun intended —over the reported sale. That’s likely what he meant by drove me away.

As far as the allegation that he backed out of a deal with someone here— never saw anything posted about that. Buyers back out of deals all the time and there are always two sides to a story.

I find this post venomous and spiteful to say the least. Not a good look for Name Pros or domainers in general. No one should be raked over the coals here unless they defrauded someone. Anything else just looks super bitter and petty.

 

[SirDrago]

Some people do things for themselves. Some do things for others. Some interchange the two.

There are many people in this forum who do exactly that...Help others, I like to believe I'm one of them. More so now that I'm retired from domaing.

But this O.P and thread adds zero value to this industry already suffering from within.
Someone not directly involved in a sale which has been beat to death already should be "Reviewed" for their intentions.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

There are many people in this forum who do exactly that...Help others, I like to believe I'm one of them. More so now that I'm retired from domaing.

I have seen you help people. I think your suggestion to move this to the lounge was helpful.

But this O.P and thread adds zero value to this industry already suffering from within.
Someone not directly involved in a sale which has been beat to death already should be "Reviewed" for their intentions.

The sale of Hatred.com is not what this thread is about. We are defending the record, and namepros. As a lot of people believe Richard's tweet to be inaccurate. In that, the reasons why he was destroyed wasn't for sharing details about his sale on Sherpa.

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on the merits / value of this thread.

 

[SirDrago]

How will waiting 30 seconds to hold a door open for an old lady add CASH in your pocket?

I do it all the time. But not for money.

Grilled, your avoiding the question.
So I'll answer it for you...
The only thing you should "VALUE" is time.
Which you're wasting here in this thread.

 

[Doughmange]

How will the answer add CASH in your pocket?

Easy. Skip doing business with someone who thinks your an idiot and will treat you according to their belief that you are a moron by any means necessary.

I mean this in a general way for the members of this forum, not to you directly.

For someone who purchases and sells domain on this forum to turn around and call forum members idiots is not someone who I would do business with.

Be aware that you could be the person who sells a six-figure domain to Richard Dynas for $4k.
He is just looking for more people he can publicly call 'idiots'.

At the end of the day A R helps himself first, every good manager does this with an inner circle of peons, you bring them close, make them feel important, they bring you deals, nothing new in business. He is effectively managing them, in their hopes to emulate him. Only difference is he has backing of $$$, and they are simply chasing it. To rinse, and repeat a sale like hatred.com is very hard, it is a rush, for sure, is it a lifetime of drinking, and kicking back on a beach, hardly.

This is the most accurate, and tragic, part of the tale.

Have you seen some of the 'premium' garbage AR is unloading to someone who may have come into a lot of money through a domain sale?

A quote: "A fool, and his money, are soon parted."

 

[Kate]

 

[bonin]

The domain name industry seems to be pretty cut throat, just like most businesses these days. I'm old enough to remember that you weren't allowed on the floor of the English stock exchange unless you were wearing black shoes, and "my word is my bond" was true. We also wore suits, and whilst I was at the stock exchange I wore a stiff collar. These days "men" wear dresses, and break their promises almost all the time. Reputation is just a weapon of attack now, or a means to reciprocate favours.

You are right, these days were sadly gone a long time ago....

 

[Kuffy]

Still it's not all bad. Stiff collars were uncomfortable, wore out your shirts, and were expensive to launder.

 

[SirDrago]

While I don't agree with the other stuff you said, I do agree with you here.

Answer any of my 4 questions if you don't mind.

P.s I do believe you should be studying what I sent you. Remember, I'm actually trying to make you money lol

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Who gains here?
Can you or anyone make money finding the truth?
How will discovering the truth better your life?
Can you rinse and repeat the answer for profit?

No, just another member wasting YOUR time with sh!t that will never make a difference in life.

Answer any of my 4 questions if you don't mind.

What makes a difference in life?

Money may make a difference in my life, but it does nothing to you, or bidders who are being shilled up.

Some people do things for themselves. Some do things for others. Some interchange the two.

Some can handle the truth, and some can't (not saying you specifically)...

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Grilled, your avoiding the question.
So I'll answer it for you...
The only thing you should "VALUE" is time.
Which you're wasting here in this thread.

Now, replying and continuing this subset of the thread is starting to feel idiotic.

Respectfully, thanks for the waste of time. But to your point, there are better uses of our time.

 

[Lox]

The End. Focus on sales!

 

[Doughmange]

"We"?

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