Appraisal Scam

[fastfred]

I would like to know if anyone have had a person contact them about buying there domain name and using an independent appraisal service,after I present him the appraisal,now he want 30 days to find a buyer.I am wondering is there people out there with thier own agenda?

 

[UKZJ007]

Damn, all those sp mistakes :p

Btw, we have his real IP

 

[neveremail]

hi,

i got this email but could tell it was fishy from the start - I asked on this site and turned out i was right.
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=80486


Maybe try banning his site by google and yahoo will annoy the guy a bit as well.

If ppl find the site is not on google and yahoo then they may get suspicious enough not to bother.

Chris

 

[Chris]

hi,

i got this email but could tell it was fishy from the start - I asked on this site and turned out i was right.
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=80486


Maybe try banning his site by google and yahoo will annoy the guy a bit as well.

If ppl find the site is not on google and yahoo then they may get suspicious enough not to bother.

Chris

I personally would just forget about it and not try to deal with them or tick them off. They are crooks so there's no reason to pick a fight with a criminal as you'll be on their target list forever. Their not your average people, they are trying to con innocent people out of money so that shows their mentality. Be better then them and ignore it. Create a website with awareness about the scams, but don't contact them directly yourself.

I'm glad you didn't fall for it as it's a common scam in the domain Industry, do a search here or at Google and you'll see.

 

[armstrong]

Maybe try banning his site by google and yahoo will annoy the guy a bit as well.

If ppl find the site is not on google and yahoo then they may get suspicious enough not to bother.

No need for that, Chris. If you search on google for fastdomainsales, you'll find 70% of the first page results talk about how it is a scam.

 

[fastfred]

RE:Fastdomainssale

I see that fastdomainssales is dead, great news, one down and more to go,yesss

 

[Zeeble]

yes, we managed to shut down fastdomainsales.com. That won't stop him for too long though, but perhaps it will make the scammers a bit more weary....

 

[debnyberg]

Wow, last year we received that scammer's email too. Never heard from them again after we put together a terse response to their inquiry.

We do not concern ourselves with appraisals. We know what this domain name is worth.

Your need for an appraisal is your business and can be handled on your end. Your partners are yours and your alone, we are not involved.

As far as negotiations, the price listed is the price needed to be paid to own this domain name. If that is unreasonable, then we suggest you do not look at something you can not afford.​

Now we realize that we were responding to spam and whoever is sending this scam had no intention of responding to anybody's reply.

Wonder what would happen if somebody replied by saying they already had an appraisal from one of those companies? If anybody does that and actually would get a response back, please follow by expecting a show of good faith and asking for earnest money being put forward first before negotiations continue.

This is how I responded when I received his request:

"If you wish XXX.com appraised for your investment purposes, I believe it should be you that obtains the appraisal. That way we both know you satisfied your requirements and I had nothing to do with the appraisal. If, after you obtain the appraisal, and you decide to purchase it, I will take off the price of the appraisal in the final sales price to you. Fair enough?"

Of course....nothing else came back from him after that....teeheheheee! Deb Nyberg

 

[Ben42]

Heh, you could offer them triple the cost of the appraisal deducted from the final price!

 

[digidogstudios]

I got an email from this jack martin guy about a month ago, wanting me to sell him 15 of my domains, i dont give anything away until i get the $, not to mention my domains are not for sale, i told him to go fly a kite.....beware of scammeras/fishers on the net, man what i would pay to get ahold of one of these lowlifes.....

 

[Yomah]

Yes the same thing happen to me! But at the time i didnt have the money to get it appraised.

 

[adam_uk]

can i make a suggestion.

it seems alot of you have had these emails trying to scam you. if you all take the ip address of the server it came from and do a whois query it will tell you an abuse / admin email to contact (or at least the owner of the ip address)

dont get someone to drum up a nice email and send it once. you all send it each.

email there abuse department, if enough of you do it they will notice and will be forced to take a look at the server / machine / customer that is miss using there services.

any spam i get that apears to come from ebay / paypal / microsoft / banks / shops etc i report imediatly to the ip owner. you all should do too.

 

[Zeeble]

Hi Adam, we have already followed this up. even to the point of speaking the ISP on the phone, all to no avail. If you come accross one of their sites, check the whois, ring the number, if it doesn't work, contact their Registrar, who then contacts ICANN who will then shut the domain down. If you keep doing this, then it will be a nuisance to the scammers and cost very little time.

 

[adam_uk]

ah right fair enough, i had only read the first couple of pages in this topic so just thought id suggest it anyway

with alot of abuse departments you never get a reply. it seems that its not a very important department to some but ive emailed some isps who are very quick and tell you there looking into it. but its very rare.

out of 140 blocked ip's i have on my webserver due to bfd's ive had 2 replys.

this needs to change if people are to create a better internet

 

[Zeeble]

I agree, I don't think that some people realise the importance of the internet. Its THE future of MOST business, IMO.

 

[Redleg]

yes, we managed to shut down fastdomainsales.com. That won't stop him for too long though, but perhaps it will make the scammers a bit more weary....

Fastdomainsales.com is still up and running as far as I can see??

 

[DotUSDomains]

hello all,

Just got an email asking me to get an appraisals a few days ago,

sent him an email back telling him no thanks.

just got this reply today


[email protected]>
To: <>
Sent from the Internet (Details)

HIS EMAIL:

Not a scam but scam fighting system.

You can find more info at
LINK REMOVED NOTHING THERE

I'm just playing with such suckers like AllDomains.com and Sedo.com. WHY?

In my opinion appraisal service on domain names is a scam. Appraisers like
AllDomains.com, Sedo.com and Aftrenic.com are showing bogus figures and
charge money for nothing. This is a big trap for all the domainers.

How can we stop them? There is only one way! When you order a service and
then make charge back the company will have to pay the charge back fee. If
they get too many charge backs they will have to close the business.

I've decided to stop the domain appraisal scam this way.

It works very simple. Earlier I made several charge backs but it was not
enough to stop them. Now I've contacted several domain sellers and asked
them to order appraisals at Sedo.com and AllDomains.com. Then I asked domain
sellers to cancel these orders because it was a joke.

As a result AllDomains.com and Sedo.com will lose big money on charge backs.
My goal is to destroy AllDomains and Sedo.

Thank you for helping me to crash these appraisers.

Now my traget is Afternic.com. I will ask people to order appraisals at
Aftrenic.com and then I will tell them about my jokes.

Afternic.com (like AllDomains.com) will have to stop their appraisal
business due to high amount of charge backs and charge back fees.

Yahooo!! We'll destroy them!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: ""Tough Technologies"" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Regarding oildrilling.org

 

[eclectro]

It's stupid to play games with criminals and try to get chargebacks. Really, all this is is a variation of the 419 Nigerian/advance fee scam.

What they do is GET YOU to pay some money up front and then THEY disappear. Whether it is a lottery you just won, or a vacation, or help to move millions out of the country, or domain appraisals, they all want the same thing - YOUR MONEY up front and FIRST, and then THEY DISAPPEAR.

The best thing you can do is make other people aware of it. It's totally assinine to try to combat this with chargebacks, because there are just too many (overseaes usually) crooks to catch. Leave it to the authorities or if you want to get them shut down call their ISP. But this too is worthless, because eventually they will just find/start another crook ISP.

This thread or topic needs to be a sticky.

 

[Badger]

Dunno if ive said it in this thread or not (cant be bothered to check) but if you want a laugh at scammer baiting, i can strongly recommend www.419fun.com

Priceless

 

[Humerox]

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http://www.419eater.com/html/martins_davis.htm