Appraisal forums...

[axilant]

Why do people use "i think"

Do research before you actually review a domain... There are some companies who do not care about TM, if they wanted to keep that TM and all the domain names, they would have bought it in the first place.

When your appraising a domain name, its not your opinion on it... its the facts that add up... if you dont know how to do the research, dont appraise a domain name. It only takes 2-3 minutes per name to get a good value mark.

Keep this in mind:
Backlink tools
Index viewing tools
Google.com
Yahoo.com
Alexa.com
MSN.com
Dictionary.com
Wikipedia.com

Thanks,

Cody

 

[user-7256]

I disagree.

A domain is worth only as much as you're willing to pay for it.

E.g. Fish.com went for over $1 million... I wouldn't pay $4,000 for that if I had the money. Okay, maybe $10,000 at MOST... but still... must have been ONE DESPERATE BUYER! :lol:

 

[sjaguar13]

I agree with with Matt. If that was the set of rules to value a domain, why even ask what the value is? You could just figure it out for yourself. Somone (there have been a few) would make a "calculator" to value your domain. The point is that there are several personal factors that would also go into the value of a domain. Some giving an appraisal might base their idea from what THEY would pay or what they think someone else who actually wanted it would pay. I wouldn't shell out a million bucks for fish.com, either, but someone still bought it for a million.

I sold domains where I would only pay the registration fee and I though twice about it. After it sat at Sedo for 11 months, no hits, no revenue, no backlinks, no indexed pages, no Oveture with or without extension and being 15 letters long, you would probably say the domain was worthless, but I ended up getting mid XXX for it just because that person really wanted it.

 

[axilant]

I highly disagree with the both of you...

You realise Matt thought craigslist.org was worthless. Its top 10 on alexa.

A domain name has more than its name/extention... do a bit of research before you appraise it... pretty pathetic if you just o yea, low $xx-mid $xx imo...

Well your opinion does matter, but its not the right way to appraise a name... you do research on the name, cause all you know it could be a domain name that has a real pr 8 or something like that... you dont just yea... this is what its worth... heh research it out first before you appraise something

Cody

 

[Jeff]

Well your opinion does matter, but its not the right way to appraise a name... you do research on the name, cause all you know it could be a domain name that has a real pr 8 or something like that... you dont just yea... this is what its worth... heh research it out first before you appraise something

Cody

Hi Cody, is it not true that the persons seeking appraisals - for FREE from the community - should provide as much information about the domain name as possible (intent, meaning(s), translation(s), reasoning(s) for registration, development ideas or potential End user suitors, traffic, page rank (if any), etc., etc.)? :blink:

You see, I think the burden rests (or should rest) more on the appraisee(s) ... than the (doing it for free and to be of assistance) appraiser(s), IMHO. Historically, I think better, more in-depth appraisals have been given to those domains where intent, information, and research has already been provided.
Just my two sense.
-Jeff

 

[deu12000]

craigslist.org undeveloped and without the traffic really is a reg fee domain though. I know about craigslist and know it's a very big and popular site, but if it was undeveloped it really isn't a very good domain. I understand what you are saying axilant, you are right that maybe people should do some homework, but like Jeff said a lot of the pertinent information should be provided by the person requesting the appraisal.

Everyone should do their homework is the bottom line, the person doing the appraisal and the person requesting the appraisal.

 

[maroulis]

same goes for ebay - and lots of other $bn companies.. it's the CONTENT and COMMUNITY that counts not the domain itself..

unless the appraisees have psychic abilities can't see how they can estimate THIS-IS-PLANET-HOGAN.BE to be a $trillion dollar domain if for example in 2090
an Alien named Hogan rules planet earth and majority of galaxies in solar system LMAO

my 2cents (or rather my 2 mini Hogans in equivalent 2090 currency)

 

[deu12000]

same goes for ebay - and lots of other $bn companies.. it's the CONTENT and COMMUNITY that counts not the domain itself..

unless the appraisees have psychic abilities can't see how they can estimate THIS-IS-PLANET-HOGAN.BE to be a $trillion dollar domain if for example in 2090
an Alien named Hogan rules planet earth and majority of galaxies in solar system LMAO

my 2cents (or rather my 2 mini Hogans in equivalent 2090 currency)

The Hogan theory doesn't apply here. :hehe: An appraisal is really what a domain is worth now. When considering the worth of anything, you also consider what the future could be and if there is a trend going in that direction than it would give it more value, but no one is psychic so no one is going to pay $100,000 for hogantheruler.com because that's looking to far into the future.

An example of this is I bought about 10-20 domains, of a keyword of a new technology that is used now, but it is not used as extensively as it's possible future applications. I guarantee if I put them up in the appraisal forum I'll be lucky to get reg fee for them, but if the technology gets real big (the way it was predicted), I could make a considerable profit on these domains. Personally even I think they're only worth reg fee (for now) considering they really get no traffic and it's not a high paying keyword even if they did get traffic, but if the technology ever gets big I'll be sitting pretty. Buying and selling domains is a lot of times a gamble and it's very hard to appraise a gamble especially without thoroughly researching the gamble.

It's the same with appraisals, in real estate if you get two professional appraisers to look at a property they will both come up with a different figure, usually the real value is somewhere in between the two. That's why it's good to have multiple people appraise your domains also, it gives you a more realistic value.

 

[maroulis]

IMHO domains related to particular technogy WiFi, bluetooth, IPTV, DNA, etc have a very short-term value ... if you look around us the only $$$$ domains are either dictionary keywords, brands or short & memorable....

rgds,
SM

 

[deu12000]

I think the bad one's might have short term value, but bluetooth and WiFi have long term value because they are at the start of it now, soon everything will have bluetooth and be WiFi.

The one's I have are the actual keyword. For example if mine were bluetooth domains I own bluetooth.com, .net, .biz, .org and so on. Of course I don't own bluetooth.com but that's just an example.

 

[maroulis]

I guess we have different views.... it goes back to the debate what's better name AMAZON (who can sell blutooth + wifi amongst other stuff) or BLUETOOTH.com?

if you're talking about parking revenue then sure bluetooth.com would make more than amazon... but brand wise and value wise amazon will always be better and easy to diversify..

 

[deu12000]

I'm talking about value in general not parking value (although parking could be part of the value).

amazon.com to me as a non-developed site or domain is worth less than bluetooth.com. If both domains were for sale (undeveloped) bluetooth.com would sell for more money than amazon.com. As a developed site of course amazon is worth more because they sell everything and they are well known due to a high budget for marketing and advertising. If bluetooth.com did the same things (about the same time amazon started) it could be equal or more valuable than amazon as long as to many people didn't mispell it, but I'm sure they would just invest in a lot of typos to with that kind of budget.

You're bringing branding into the value of the domain, but if the domain isn't branded it's not worth any where near as much as if it were.

You can register a lot of domains that are easy to brand and remember like redstar.com for example (I just made the domain up and it might or might not be registered) at reg fee or maybe a little more and brand it the way you want (like amazon), but bluetooth.com has natural type-in traffic which brings up the value considerably.

Look at google, how much would google be worth without development? Probably a little over reg fee if that. Or ebay? Or even microsoft? Bluetooth due to it being a keyword automatically has built in traffic although it might not be much and you would probably have to spend less money to get targeted traffic to the site.

 

[maroulis]

i think we're going OFF-TOPIC here... read the first post again.. the debate started because people like us who "appraise" domains for free don't have psychic abilities to predict the value of a domain if developed...

totally agree with you - if I was to appaise today bluetooth.com vs google.com (undeveloped) i'd say mid $XX,XXX for bluetooth vs. low $XX for google...

back to my original remark, for people reg'ing tech specific domains that IMHO have short-term value bluetooth.com is great but there's bluetooth2.0 there's bluetoothmax same goes for 802.11 b/g/e/a come to mind same w/GSM.com which has UMTS/GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSXPA which are ALL under GSM family yet could demand MORE value than original GSM given right time (!)