question Any tips for buying 4L.com domains?

[Jean2]

Any tips for buying 4L.com domains?

 

[Kingsley111]

No tips. Thanks.

 

[kaotic]

Buy good ones

 

[Jean2]

Buy good ones

Good tip, how

 

[kaotic]

Generally on expired auctions, but they tend to sell for not so cheap

 

[Jean2]

Generally on expired auctions, but they tend to sell for not so cheap

They end up selling for at least $100

 

[kaotic]

They end up selling for at least $100

You won't see a good 4L selling for anything less than 5k on godaddy, what auctions have you been following because I'm highly interested if $100 is the going rate

 

[Jean2]

You won't see a good 4L selling for anything less than 5k on godaddy, what auctions have you been following because I'm highly interested if $100 is the going rate

Namejet, but they’re mostly unpronounceable.

 

[biggie]

Hi

if, even the crappiest of letters sell for $100 now,
how much they sell for, 4 years in the future?

if some of them just above crappy level are selling for $150 > $250 now -
then how much will they be worth, 4 years from today.

if some of them that are above the level above are selling for $500 > $1250
then how much will they be worth, two years from yesterday?

if, etc, etc and so on.

the point, if investing, then think of future value, rather than bs market value/prices today.

spent the bucks today, add 5 years renewal and wait.

imo...

 

[Jean2]

Hi

if, even the crappiest of letters sell for $100 now,
how much they sell for, 4 years in the future?

if some of them just above crappy level are selling for $150 > $250 now -
then how much will they be worth, 4 years from today.

if some of them that are above the level above are selling for $500 > $1250
then how much will they be worth, two years from yesterday?

if, etc, etc and so on.

the point, if investing, then think of future value, rather than bs market value/prices today.

spent the bucks today, add 5 years renewal and wait.

imo...

True but I dont have confidence in putting a lot on a domain (cuz im a beginner) even if Im pretty sure the resell price is much higher.

 

[biggie]

True but I dont have confidence in putting a lot on a domain (cuz im a beginner) even if Im pretty sure the resell price is much higher.

Hi

i read your dn wanted thread and seems highly unlikely with your exclusions.
best to consider whatever4 letter names are submitted for that budget.

imo...

 

[enterscope]

There is no such thing as liquid. Retail or wholesale. Just like anything else.

 

[forge]

You won't see a good 4L selling for anything less than 5k on godaddy

False, comment has no merit.

tpmb.com

1,403 USD

2024-10-31

GoDaddy

 

[Samer]

LLLL.com doesnt need to be pronounceable,
“Do you see any acronyms?”
I usually avoid “X” “Z” like the plague.

If you see acronym speaking to you;
and you can see developing it; buy it

Lastly, avoid the “CVCV” hoopla; they one of the most valuable (Constant, Vowel, Constant, Vowel) CVCV.com’s are so overrated to me!

Cheap llll.com floor price is $100;
All 456,976 llll.com taken since 2017.
Good luck! NP cheapest place to buy llll.com; where i bought most of mine.

 

[kaotic]

False, comment has no merit.

tpmb.com

1,403 USD

2024-10-31

GoDaddy

Apart from having all premium letters, that's not a good 4L imo

 

[pb]

Apart from having all premium letters, that's not a good 4L imo

The thing about short domains is that they might not mean anything today, but they may become an acronym tomorrow. They're a great cash freezer for patient investors. Think of nfts.com - what did it mean ten years ago, other than a typo of NTFS? What did utxo.com mean a couple years before it sold for 20k? btcc? xrpl? ethx? It's just a handful of examples from just one industry. Multiply it by a number of innovations people unleash every year...

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I compiled the following article on 4L .com domain names a few years ago, but the links to some of the discussions, and the link to resources like ShortDomains is still of value. I could also show the range that 4L were being priced then. Incidentally, it is called an outsider look since I do not personally invest in 4L.com.

An Outsider Look At 4-Letter .COM Domain Names

https://www.namepros.com/blog/an-outsider-look-at-4-letter-com-domain-names.1242779/

 

[forge]

Thanks for the info, Bob.

Sadly, the ShortDomains data collection has trickled off within the past few months and may have become another lost resource (historical records excepted).

 

[TheDomainsCollector]

Hi

if, even the crappiest of letters sell for $100 now,
how much they sell for, 4 years in the future?

if some of them just above crappy level are selling for $150 > $250 now -
then how much will they be worth, 4 years from today.

if some of them that are above the level above are selling for $500 > $1250
then how much will they be worth, two years from yesterday?

if, etc, etc and so on.

the point, if investing, then think of future value, rather than bs market value/prices today.

spent the bucks today, add 5 years renewal and wait.

imo...

That is the best, now i have more cleared on expired auctions buying.
Thanks

 

[biggie]

I usually avoid “X” “Z” like the plague.

Hi

got $2k offer @ aftanic on a "Z&&X.com name.

imo...

The thing about short domains is that they might not mean anything today, but they may become an acronym tomorrow.

the point, if investing, then think of future value,

Hi

in essence, we're both trying to hip the OP to the same big picture.



imo...

 

[Sufyaan]

Always buy 4L .com from namepros auction because on Godaddy, dropcatch and other auction markets you'll get the same 4LLLL.com higher then namepros because Bidders love to pay much more to auction platforms and interestingly same bidders don't bid more than $100 on namepros on similar 4LLLLs

 

[dncafe]

The whole "bad letters" thing is bullsh*t when you're talking about reselling a 4 letter .com to an end user.

Typically there are 2 scenarios for an end user buyer:

1) The name is pronounceable

or

2) It's the acronym of their business

Bad letters work for both.

Again, this is for end user sales. Not selling random 4 letter .coms to other domainers.

 

[kaotic]

The whole "bad letters" thing is bullsh*t when you're talking about reselling a 4 letter .com to an end user.

Typically there are 2 scenarios for an end user buyer:

1) The name is pronounceable

or

2) It's the acronym of their business

Bad letters work for both.

Again, this is for end user sales. Not selling random 4 letter .coms to other domainers.

What end user?

You're not taking into account the fact that certain letters (aka the "bad letters" you're talking about) do not appear that much in the English language, especially as the first letter of a word. Therefore, there is less of a chance someone will come around and think of a good company name that includes them.

It's a numbers game and there's certainly math involved. Along with looking for good/popular 2 letter combos like db, tv, or hq, I use this simple English letter frequency chart on Wikipedia before buying any non-pronouncable 4L .com and I highly recommend all other users to do the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_frequency

By looking at the chart we can see that the letters V, K, J, X, Q, and Z dont even show up in over 99% of all English words. Investing in a non-pronounceable 4L .com that contains them is not a smart strategy. Actually, its not strategic at all. That's why we see random trash 4Ls being sold for less than $100 even though they've bene registered since 2006, 2007, 2008, etc. They're constantly in a state of liquidation - It's cause nobody in the business world has come up with a catchy name that includes a word that starts with them.

The mathematical odds simply arent there. You might have to wait 30+ years before someone finally comes up with something and is willing to pay up. The renewal fee isn't worth the trouble IMO - you're losing money at some point.

 

[BYYP]

I've just checked thousands of llll coms no good names between $100-$500 only crap

 

[biggie]

You might have to wait 30+ years before someone finally comes up with something and is willing to pay up. The renewal fee isn't worth the trouble

Hi

10 years from now, bad letters will be selling for $300 or more, to other domainers.
just like 20 years ago, when bad 3 letter com were selling for $300 > $500.
today such names are selling for 5 figures.

unless domains go extinct, profits can be made off newbies that will enter the game 20 years from now.

sorry newbies


imo...