Long and tedious, you got that right. Actually, IDNs will succeed eventually despite the long and tedious standardization and the fundamental flaw in choosing a client side solution instead of making it a DNS solution. It will just take a long and tedious time.
No. I'm well aware that most people are looking to just park them. My point about this being an obstacle to IDN adoption is even more valid in this context.
Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see won't we. Just like we've had to do every year for the last 10 years. Don't worry. One of these days you IDN touters are going to turn out to be right. If only through the sheer statistical impossibility of always being wrong.
Dude. There are Chinese here. Trust me. I don't know what you think about the Chinese, but they aren't nearly as uneducated as you make them out to be. I've got a lot of Chinese friends and they all speak excellent English. They can even use English to type URLs (gasp).
Of course it was in China, and a number of the non-Chinese spoke passable Chinese. But as a common courtesy everyone communicated in the language people were in common most proficient with. English.
Respect. Keep fighting the good fight. It was the complete disinterest in addressing the international needs of the Internet of NSI et all in that got me interested in IDNs 10 years ago. Having a level playing field is why I supported unicode DNS instead of the client side kluge that was adopted IDNs will be an important step towards towards making the Internet more accessible to the disadvantaged.
Now run out and **** over your oppressed brothers by taking all their good names and filling them with banner farms!
Clearly, we hang out at different Thai bars.
I like the idea of local language URLs for local markets. I think as long as people accept them as just that then you'll do fine. But if your looking to make serious money of PPC or speculation you've got a while to go.
It sure is! Back then. You couldn't just go out and buy a Skype phone to plug in to your USB port. We didn't even have USB. The original 8 bit sound blaster card was 5 years away. We plugged AD and DA converters in the paralel ports of a PC to digitize and reproduce sound. And the Internet was in no way ubituitous back then. I had to create bridges through half a dozen networks, x.25, TCP/IP, and whatever else we ran into. And of course everyone didn't have 10MB lines into their home like today. And we even didn't have the compression algorithms we have today that would have required a main frame to encode back then. We were encoding as fibonacci delta and stuffing it down a 64kb line.
Yes. Truly amazing, but not as amazing as the fact that something so useful took decades to catch on in the main stream.
Just waiting for you to tell me what I should be comparing. Or is there nothing to compare IDNs to but sliced bread?
Please note. For the record. I do not dispute that there are hundreds of thousands of IDN .coms registered by speculators. I dispute whether this has any (positive) bearing whatsoever on wide spread adoption of these names, in particular their actual use.
I want some of what you're smoking! How did you know I had so many mobis? You must be a psychic!
domainstosell said:
Many other factors are coming to fruition, including:
Why doesn't this need to be continually established? Usually something is established once and that's it. Let's say its in the process of being (seriously) established, and once it is it may be a driving factor.
A valid point, although I think this is more of an indicator of than a factor. We need this happening on a much wider scale before we see much of an effect from it.
This is probably the only real factor in play at this time. I'm amazed by the amount of traffic and revenue I've received with Chinese names. But I know how “well” this traffic converts, so I'm not making any long term bets on how long people will continue to pay money for nothing.
This is certainly a factor in the widespread adoption of IDNs amongst the crowd who missed out on the last “great thing”. I don't see that it has much to do with growing the usage of IDNs. In fact, as I've said before, nearly everything speculators do will have an adverse affect on the name space by turning it into a giant billboard.
OIC. So where were they all registered then? ccTLDs I suppose, because there's only a few hundred thousand .coms registered. And before anyone says “that's a lot”, bear in mind that's for every supported language.
They have never has a chance? So there have never been Japanese IDNs? WTF? You can register them tonnes of places and have been able to for some time.
I may spend 5-10 minutes reading a page and 0-1 second looking at the URL. Do you prefer a yellow or red umbrella in your cocktail.
Really. I appreciate the SEO value of the names, and I appreciate that some people are fiercely nationalistic about them. But you need most people to want them. Preferring them isn't enough.