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An Intro to Domain Name Investing

Spend your whole first month (at least!) reading about the domain name market... Understand why prices are the way they are. Look up current trends and attempt to extrapolate. Do not spend all your money starting out on a few good names. You'll probably end up getting ripped off and the whole domain experience will become sour for you. Keep thinking of ideas, researching new trends, areas of interest, and checking expired domain lists. Expired domains are domain names for which the domain name registration has lapsed. Lists of expired domain names can be obtained for free on sites which allow backordering.

Backordering is basically paying a company to acquire a name who's registration is about to lapse for you. Many people scan (look through) expired domain name lists daily and for this reason, there's alot of competition for domain names which are set to expire on any given day. A way to get an edge on the competition is to use a backordering company. Pool.com, Snapnames.com, and Namejet.com are currently the 3 largest domain name backordering companies. They have contracts with registrars (the companies who facilitate domain name registration) that entitle them to all domain names who's registration has lapsed at those registrars. They also own registrars of their own. They use the registrars they own as a means of attempting to catch (acquire) domain names for which none of the 3 parties mentioned above have exclusive contracts with. The whole process is quite complicated and well beyond this introductory lesson, however, what should be retained here, is that if Pool, Snapnames, or Namejet are interested in a domain name, they will almost always get it. It's always smart to backorder at all 3. That way, you're most likely to get the name you want provided you can afford it. When more than 1 person is interested in a domain name at these backordering companies, the company who manages to backorder the name sets up an auction with the winning party being the person willing to pony up the most cash for the name. Backordering is often very expensive and there are set fees (only if you are the winning party in the end) established by each backordering company which are well in excess of the fees you would pay if you were able to register the name yourself without employing them. For this reason, it's important to consider whether you think you need the help of a backordering company or not to acquire the domain name you're interested in. As a general rule, I don't backorder anything I don't feel is worth at least $100. This will vary from person to person, but when backordering a name often costs $30+ and once you factor the time and energy it will take to resell (more on this later) this name into the equation,...

Backorder or not, always remember to strive for the best names you can get for your money. It's not necessarily about spending your entire budget on 1 name, but it is about getting the best name you can get for every dollar you put in. If you can get a $100 for $10 or a $100 for $20, which would you choose? It sounds easy, but it does take a bit of practice when those domain names are represented by letters -- say, ZQVJ.com versus XKOX.com? This is all the more reason why I recommend everyone thoroughly research the market before investing heavily in it.

If you choose to go the hand reg route (registering names without backordering), only reg the very best ones you're able to find. Don't reg a ton of them at the beginning... Dabble in it a bit.. Try and sell these names. Are you able to sell them? Do you now have a reasonable grasp on the potential value a name has under usual circumstances? Take that knowledge you've acquired over your first month or two... Now, consider investing in a quality .com. Don't get suckered into spending x,xxx (shorthand for thousands) on a different tld (top level domain) or worse -- a cctld (country code top level domain [these are extensions for specific countries]). You're new -- you need things simple... And it doesn't get simpler than .com.. For those wondering what a tld and cctld is, I would ideally tell you it doesn't matter -- that all you should focus on right now is dotcom (.com), however since I know you're going to google it if I don't tell you... A TLD in it's common domainer meaning (screw Wikipedia!) is any sTLD or uTLD (I bet that cleared alot up!). sTLD's are domain name extensions which are sponsored by an independant organizations who monitor and impose rules to be followed by the registrants (the people like you who own a domain name in this domain name extension). Examples of sTLD's include .mobi and the soon to be released .asia. UTLD's or unsponsored top level domains, are domain name extensions which do not have sponsors. Examples of uTLD's include .com, .net, .info, and .biz. The main difference of importance is that there are generally no rules to follow (although certain names may perform better in certain uTLD's) when registering uTLD's. If you wish to build a website with a domain name in the .mobi extension ( an sTLD) in comparison, you would need to make it mobile compliant, as defined at www.ready.mobi. This most certainly sounded like gibberish to you if you really are a newcomer to domain name investing. No worries... Read it 10 times, then read it another 10. Investing in domain names really isn't a foot race... Make sure you thoroughly understand everything mentioned above before going forward. If you can't understand a certain point, search for an answer on Namepros or ask a question about it. There are plenty of friendly members willing to give every newcomer a helping hand. And never forget to stick with .com at first (I'll say this so many times you'll be sick -- but these really are words of wisdom).

When you make the next step up -- when you're considering investing in a good .com, ask yourself what's important to you. Do you need the revenue that could be generated from a parked name? Are you interested in finding a name which has a high ppc value and could easily be developed into a profitable site?

I bet I lost you once again! Revenue generated from a parked name you ask? But I thought I made money by selling names..." The world of domain name investing, it seems, is much more complicated than that! Parking domain names is a fundamental part of monetizing your domain names before you sell them. Domain name parking is to put it bluntly, loading your domain names with advertisements that pay you real greenbacks everytime someone clicks on one of the links or ads (before you ask, you're not allowed to click on your own and they can find out and close your account if you do). For a newcomer just starting out, I'd recommend creating a parking account with Sedo and Namedrive. There are better (higher paying) parking companies out there, however many of them are exclusive, requiring a certain amount of traffic (people visiting your domain names), revenue (people clicking on advertisements displayed on your domain names), a combination of both, or a set amount of domain names. Many of them also make you wait for several days before deciding whether to accept you into their program or not and may cut you off if you cannot maintain certain performance requirements. For this reason, I recommend sticking with Sedo and Namedrive until you gain further understanding and appreciation for the domain name monetization via parking sector. Experiment on Sedo and Namedrive with your names. Play around with the keywords with the goal of increasing your click through rate. Tools such as Wordtracker and Keyword Discovery can help you find terms which are frequently searched for and hence more likely to generate clicks. At this point in time, I wouldn't worry about how much money I was receiving per click.. You can worry about maximizing your earnings per click (EPC) once you've learned to maximize your click through rate (CTR). I won't discuss EPC further here. It requires alot of dedication to find the perfect balance between CTR and EPC and isn't something you need to worry about until your dealing with names earning you dollars daily, rather than the cents you'll likely earn at best on your first few names. Always remember that slow and steady wins the race! At some registrars, you'll be able to renew your domain name (and hence keep you domain registration from lapsing) for as low as 2 cents per day -- most registrar's annual fees amount to the equivalent of less than 3 cents per day. So if you can make 5, or 10 cents on your name each day, don't fret! Try and repeat that success over, and over, and over again.

Before regging a name... Ask yourself why you want/need this particular name. Think long and hard about it. Think of the best ways to monetize this name. Stay away from names with traffic stats being sold based on these traffic stats... Get a good .com that "sells" itself on it's own merit. Traffic stats can be easily forged (another concept we won't get into here.. I told you to stay away, so do otherwise at your own peril) and we really don't want to worry about all that this early in the game.

When it comes to making your first large investment, after having decided what you plan on doing with it (parking, developing, reselling, etc), try and figure out a ballpark figure of how much money you'll be able to generate off this name. It doesn't have to be exact -- it won't be exact. But having an idea of around how much you can make, is a good way to start planning for the future. My recommendation -- a LLL.com, a couple premium CVCV.com or a good dictionary word .com. Don't get fooled into paying exhorbitant prices for a name just because it's listed in a dictionary... Shop around. You'll be surprised at some of the deals available out there! Look at names listed on Sedo, Afternic, and other domain name exchanges. When looking at these exchanges, take the prices with a grain of salt. It's easy for anyone to ask $10k usd for a shoddy name. It's not what you ask for it... It's what you can get for it. Check resources such as NameBio and DnJournal. These provide a concrete sales history. Unlike Sedo, these are not asking prices -- these are what names have sold for in the past. You can use tools such as Estibot and Premium Domain (Domain Score) to compare a name to another one or attempt to guage the value of a name in question. Don't pay prices based on what these free services report. Rather, look at the value reported and attempt to understand why the automated program reported the value that it did. High prices reported by automated programs are no guarantee that your name is great -- but be extremely weary if the name you're paying xxxx+ for is reported as being worth reg fee (you get the idea) by Estibot, or non premium by Premium Domain. If it isn't premium or scores low on Estibot's valuation, ask yourself why that is. Is it something new that hasn't hit mainstreasm yet (think of wikis or blogs a few years back)? A low valuation does not necessarily imply that you're being ripped off, rather that you should proceed with caution.

Make sure to toss most of your profits back into additional names. Take some money out so that you can convince yourself and your significant other that this really is real. If you have deep pockets you may choose to now begin looking for a second high quality name (still sticking with .com at this point). If not, get your name monetized (however you choose to do it) asap so you can start saving towards your next name.

Use this downtime (if you're like most people) to further expand your knowledge of domaining. Read up on the latest trends (and always continue doing such...). These change fast, so don't think that what was hot 2 months ago is necessarily the real deal today.

Since you probably will have a few months before your name generates enough money to consider investing in another .com (and even if you have the funds to re-invest right now) , start learning about the other markets available to you. Since your money supply is likely limited, you won't be able to buy premium .coms week after week... You're likely still not ready to experiment with speculative extensions like .tv, .mobi, most cctlds, LLLL.com (not CVCV/VCVC), so don't go there. The biggest way a newbie can be burned is by getting into speculative extensions when they don't have the requisite knowledge and appreciation of domaining to truly grasp the liquidity of this market. Since your money supply is limited, you need names that are either liquid, generate a steady stream of income, or optimally, both. This means you should focus on .coms and premium .nets only, for the time being. As you gain more experience and a thorough understanding of the value of .coms and .nets (and hopefully a fatter bank account!), you can slowly move into markets that aren't as liquid. Start with .info... Good .infos aren't that hard to sell. Once you get the hang of waiting a bit longer for sales -- and having enough money that you can afford to wait on sales, you can start investing in speculative extensions. Rule #1 of investing... Never invest more than you can afford to lose. We can all agree that a LLL.com, premium 1 word generic .com, etc are solid investments, likely to go nowhere but through the stratosphere in years to come. The same cannot necessarily be said about speculative extensions.

Nobody really knows whether .mobi will become the mobile standard or whether .tv will become synonymous with online video. While LLLL.coms look promising today, they didn't look so promising 5 months ago when I plunked down $10k on 1500 of them.. These investments have an inherent risk that investing in the former (.com) does not have. I would never put more than 20% of my investment in a speculative extension -- it's just too much money to potentially lose -- not to mention the fact that speculative extensions can be a plague for anyone who doesn't understand the importance of spreading registrations throughout the year. Zero liquidity (or near zero) means that you end up selling your names at a loss (or under what you presume to be their market value), because you need the money. Don't fall into this trap. Don't invest more than you can afford -- especially if investing in speculative extensions.

Here's a few more tips to consider when entering domaining...

1. Length -- how long is your domain name? One word domains are usually easier to sell and sell for higher amounts than 2 word domains from the same sector.

2. Pronouncability -- Is it easy to pronounce, or is pronouncing the name really stretching it? Prounouncability leads right into...

3. Memorability -- how easy is it to remember this name? A memorable name is generally a non-hyphenated name, composed of 1 or 2 words which go well together. Stay away from numbers -- especially the use of numbers as letters (such as one and 1) to form words (a few exceptions here, including domain name related sites, such as this one which deal with topics commonly talked about using letters [eg. 4 letter domain names]). A memorable name probably has...

4. Brandability -- Could a company center a product or website around this name?

5. Grammatical Tense -- Use a tool, such as Wordtracker to ensure you use the right one. What seems like the most used tense to you may be different from how the rest of the world sees it. Also use Wordtracker to identify whether the term is more popular in it's plural or singular form.

6. USPTO.GOV is your friend -- remember that! Don't be a n00b and get into TM or typosquatting. You can make plenty of money in domaining without stooping to that level.

7. TLD/ccTLD -- What extension is it? I use a 1/10/30 rule for .com, .net, .info -- meaning that I first attempt to determine the approximate value of a .com, then, I associate approximately 10% of that value as a maximum value of the .net and then assign one third of the .net value (or 1/30 of the .com value) to the .info. I use these as maximum prices I would pay. So if I feel a particular .com is worth 100k, I wouldn't value the .info at more than around 3k in example. Seeing as I want to make a profit, I wouldn't consider going higher than 2.5k under such a scenario. As for offering... Most domainers are pretty reasonable to other domainers (i.e. dealing with another Namepros member). If I'm dealing with a individual who I'm not sure if they're a domainer or not, I'll typically start off by offering them 10% of the maximum I'd be willing to pay for their name (in the above case, that would be $250). If they know me and I know them, I'll usually start off around 40-50% of the maximum I'd be willing to pay. No matter what you offer on your first offer, people will generally figure that your first offer usually isn't your best offer (and usually it isn't), so keep this in mind when beginning negotiations -- leave room to negotiate.

8. Target Market -- Who exactly is going to buy your name? If it's a generic .com or LLL.com, okay, you need not worry. But what if it's not? Obviously the larger the target market, the better. A name like health.com is worth more than a name like healthstore.com for several reasons -- but 1 of they key reasons is because health.com has a bigger target market (as well as greatly increased traffic, but that's another matter). How many potential endusers would this name have?

9. Traffic -- The big T! No traffic, no money. Easy as that. If you're name receives no traffic whatsoever, the only way you'll be able to generate income is by selling it. This makes it a less attractive option than buying a name which receives plenty of free traffic even when it hasn't been developed.

10. Plan for the future -- Hedge your investments and hedge them well my friend! You can't predict the future, so prepare for it in advance. Use strategies such as diversification to minimize risk. If you plan on investing some of your money in speculative extensions, put at least three times that amount in solid .coms, so as to minimize the damage done should your investment in speculative extensions not pan out. Don't forget to spread out those renewal dates.

11. Keep coming back to Namepros. There's always new stuff to learn!
 
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Outstanding. Thank you Reece. What does stickied mean?
 
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Adatise said:
Outstanding. Thank you Reece. What does stickied mean?

If you look at a forum, you will see the posts at the top are stickied, it is when they stay at the top all the time.
 
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Great post/guide Reece. Very informative and helpful.
 
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An excellent post. I'm a newbie myself and found this very helpful! In my bookmarks!!!
 
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A must read for all NEWBIES

Wow, Wow Reece you are the CHOSEN ONE, what a write up? Thank you millions time over. This is a wonderful help to newbie’s like myself. One thing I am still having problems with is Parking or going for services such as whypark and domainembarking.com. For me self development is out of the question because I have no technical expertise or the funds. Can I please ask you to shine light on this? Thanks, you are my hero Reece and all of you contributors.
 
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Hi Producer007,

Thanks for your kind words :)

If you have the time, I'd definitely recommend going with a service like whypark. Another cheap alternative is to setup blogs on each of your domain names. Definitely cheaper to setup a couple wordpress blogs and see how good of a content writer/SEO superstar you are versus outlaying a pile of cash on something like whypark without any guarantees.

So starting out... I'd say park your names at Namedrive, and pick a couple to blog about. If you can get decent numbers, look into setting up Adsense or an affiliate program on them. Feel free to ask around here or send me a pm for help with that if you need it.

You can even try the blog concept without a domain name if you want. You can start with a freebie subdomain and try your luck. I started a blog on 4 letter domain names (overall, a pretty small niche compared to a blog about domain names in general) and I now get 100-200 visitors to my site daily.

It's all about differentiating yourself from the rest. There's easily 30+ domain name blogs out there and then there's forums like Namepros and resources like Namebio, DNSalePrice, DNJournal, etc. Targetting the domain name market as a whole isn't likely to be all that great of an idea at this point, clearly.. However, targetting a small segment as I have has led to constant daily readership.

What also helps when writing about a niche is that you can of course choose what to write about -- and should choose something you like and are good at. In my case, I'm fairly experienced buying, selling, and trading 4 letter .coms, whereas I'm not all that experienced with 2 letter .coms, 3 letter .coms, geo .coms, .nets, .org, etc. Indeed, I really don't know enough about domaining to compete with the industry superstars -- so I won't.

I'll stick to what I know -- and what I know better than them.

So maybe your niche is a particular college football team, maybe even a site about your progress in the domain name world -- just try and differentiate it from what's out there.

There's definitely alot more money to be made doing this than:

1) MFA (made for adsense) sites
2) Parking hand registered domain names
3) Developing websites when you don't know how to develop, can't afford to outsource, and don't have the time to learn.

producer007 said:
Wow, Wow Reece you are the CHOSEN ONE, what a write up? Thank you millions time over. This is a wonderful help to newbie’s like myself. One thing I am still having problems with is Parking or going for services such as whypark and domainembarking.com. For me self development is out of the question because I have no technical expertise or the funds. Can I please ask you to shine light on this? Thanks, you are my hero Reece and all of you contributors.
 
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Great guide, bookmarked it and you blog also!
 
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Hello again,
I'm all over the place these last two days, I'm a newbie not only to domains but to forums also, I never needed to frequent forums as much as I do now, so I'm learning my way around here. I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction when it comes to terminology in domaining, I hear the acronym TM a lot and typos, which typos is self explanatory, but what are TMs? Is there a website that someone knows about that explains these terms and words in details?

Also, since I just joined the forum, I recently read the welcome email and there was something there about being able to post your google adsense ads on here, how does that work? is anyone here doing that? I entered my adsense Id in my profile but how does that work here in terms of how to post the ad and how do you get paid? I imagine it's google that pays but there seems to be so much more about it that I'm not getting. So a little light on that would be great.

And finally, I see a lot of you are able to post links at the bottom of your posts, I know this is done through the reply tool when you reply to a message by using the <> tag symbol, is it as simple as entering the <href ... tag or does it need to be preceded by something else like the entire <htm> header and all that stuff? I don't know if the message window/tool will automatically interpret the html tags and only show the highlighted or underlined link.

Thank you all for you generosity and patience.

Chas.
 
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Hi Reece - Thanks for excellent information - it is very useful!!!

Hi Chassmp3,
I know about adding urls in the signature,
What you need to do is click "UserCP" - a link in the upper left corner of the screen. Once you are into it you need to click Edit Signature

There you can add your signature .

To add URL you can type in as follows
<URL=http://www.resistor.in>GET ELECTRIC</URL>

Replace < & > with [ & ] respectively

So everytime you post a message your signature will be added

Ok found out what TM typosquatting is
- it is TradeMark (TM) typosquatting

it is a way to drive traffic to the site by registering a domain name which is similar to a bigbrand name, of course with some typing errors.
this way one can drive-in some of the traffic onto the site

Also found that there are ethical debates over it. Don't know if its illegal!
 
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Hey gr8names,
Thanks for that clarification, now it makes a heck of a lot of sense, a lot of mixed opinions on this point though, I guess this actually pays off well for some. Being a newbie though I'd rather not mess with this.

I have another question for anyone one though and this is one of the things that's really got me confused about the whole parking business. I hear good things about Parked.com, Evolanding.com, namedrive etc. Now I'm also hearing about places like whypark.com and 1plus.net, because 1plus.net was free I went and signed up and when I asked a question one of their admins I think said "cease using 1plus.net and go to iModo" So I imagine that 1plus.net and iModo are the same place? So when it comes to type in traffic, which as I understand is when people actually type a URL in the browser address field, right? I mean does that really still happen? Are most of these companies getting their traffic that way?

However that's not the only question. I am seeing a lot about how parking is changing and developing sites with content not just links is the way to go. So right now I feel more interested in developing traffic for the few names I have, so out of the many places where you can do that. Which ones do not have a minimum number of domains when you join? I am currently parking at sedo and namedrive because it doesn't matter how many domains you add, and I don't want to just register names for the heck of having the minimum number to join Parked, Evo or iModo. Sedo and namedrive are not generating any traffic for me yet, I don't know if this takes time or if it's just all wrong for me.

Anyways, I'm hungry for the knowledge guys!

Thanks
Chas.
 
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chassmp3 said:
Anyways, I'm hungry for the knowledge guys!

1. start your own thread. (ask one of the mods to split this one if they are willing to)

2. Read more, write less. At least for a month.

3. Read all the guides / help / stickies on the forum before asking basic questions that have been asked and answered a 1000 times on these boards.
 
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great post... thanx Reece for posting a nice article...
 
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This is a perfect read, thank you so much, great for people like me starting out :)
 
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Reece, thanks I hope to catch you on PM.

Actually, I took signed up to whypark and I already have 34 sites up. Parked with parked, namedrive, sedo, evolandin, imonetize, trafficclub, trafficz. Now I need to get blogs out there and I have a niche that has nothing to do with domains. I am not technical but I think what I need is just an installation and template design using wordpress. But I want it to be professional like in terms of asthetics and functionality. I kind of like travelpod.com and thesandtrap.com. I want people to come and blog with photos, videos and whatever medium of reporting. The problem is cash - I don't have. What kind of money will take to do something like this and time frame? Any takers? Reece we need you
 
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great post, thank you for sharing with us.
 
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amazing read for newbies. learned more from this post then i have the last week reading all kinda things
 
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Another newbie reporting a read. Won't express an opinion until I've read it again a few more time.
 
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Thanks for the great guide. A few times you mentioned LLLL.com, VCVC.com, CVCV.com, LNLN.com etc.

It took me quite a few minutes to figure it out, but my best guess is that the letters mean:

L - letter
N - number
C - Consonant
V - Vowel

Right?

When you say LLLL.com, does that indicate that all 4 letters are the same letter? Or can it be any letter? (i.e. would you refer to BBBB.com as an LLLL.com? would you also refer to BHFK.com as an LLLL.com?)
 
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Cataclysmic said:
It took me quite a few minutes to figure it out, but my best guess is that the letters mean:

L - letter
N - number
C - Consonant
V - Vowel

Right?
Go to the head of the class, absolutely correct.

Cataclysmic said:
would you also refer to BHFK.com as an LLLL.com?)
Yes, L = any letter
BBBB.com would be five figures min. atm

Good Luck
 
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thank you Reece!

Best best bestest info and help for a newbie-me (overnight domain junkie) You give me hope, courage and resolve that I can do this, despite what my family and friends think. I've probably only wasted $100. and bought a few halfway decent names. mg!(muchas gracias) Never had so much fun! I have both a wild imagination and a practical mind as well as somekind of inherent overview and understanding of the workings. Is the domain name lender legitimate and safe? Deborah


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Great post, I read half =)

Thanks!
 
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Alex said:
Would have repped you, but seems that NP considers that I am fond of you.

You've put much work in this guide and every minute was worth it.

Keep up the good work
same happen to me... everybody is fond of reece..lol
rep added onthis thread then..
Great article!
 
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You surely get a +1 From me :)
 
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Reece said:
Thanks guys :)

I'm glad everyone is liking it so far.. I'll get it stickied when I have enough NP$.


Already sorted.. :tu: great post
 
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